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Is the world and their dog key workers!!!

377 replies

anxiouscrazymum · 06/01/2021 15:09

So I am not a key worker, I work 3 days a week and have 2 KS1 children.
I am having to adapt my hours around my children's school work and will just have to run myself ragged over the next few months like many others!
AIBU to think that some parents are taking the P@@s and using Key worker benefits to be bloody lazy.
Why are the allowed to send children 5 days if they only work 2/3?
Why are they allowed to send in if their partner is furloughed or working from home?
Why are they allowed to send children in of the just work weekends in a supermarket normally?
We have 14 out of 30 children in my DS class at school, they have the class teacher with them and also have each other.
I feel my children are being penalised and will miss out on school and social interaction all because I am not a key worker:
If there were less children in, the teacher would be able to undertake zoom classes and online interactions. Because of the number of children in we just get set daily tasks!
Sorry for my rant AIBU x

OP posts:
Empressofthemundane · 07/01/2021 16:41

I am a key worker. I work a middle management job and have teenagers.

Obviously, I don’t avail myself of the opportunity to send my DC into school. It would be ridiculous and completely out of the spirit of the rules.

There may be a few people in my position with out the common sense not to be “grabby.”

rolliy · 07/01/2021 16:41

Some have said only frontline NHS.

Persianparadise · 07/01/2021 16:46

rolliy

Who made you the cock of the walk?

eh?

I responded to a post from @Pigeonsareclever that said

Do you not think you should have a break?

Surely the poster telling me to take a break is the cock?

You are the same poster

Look I would quit if I was you. Your answers seem to be belittling people and picking on certain ones. It must give you great pleasure. Do you do this all day? Do us all a favour and shoo

ukgift2016 · 07/01/2021 16:48

There are even more kids in my daughter school today, nearly half now. They managed to survive without school doing first lockdown, funny that. Also like to stand together chatting at the school gate, gives me the rages.

Pigeonsareclever · 07/01/2021 16:49

@Persianparadise

rolliy

Who made you the cock of the walk?

eh?

I responded to a post from @Pigeonsareclever that said

Do you not think you should have a break?

Surely the poster telling me to take a break is the cock?

You are the same poster

Look I would quit if I was you. Your answers seem to be belittling people and picking on certain ones. It must give you great pleasure. Do you do this all day? Do us all a favour and shoo

Completely agree, some posters are completely obsessed and posting all day about this. I hope that they haven’t taken a key worker place to spend hours on mumsnet justifying that place.
unmarkedbythat · 07/01/2021 16:50

They managed to survive without school doing first lockdown, funny that.

Possibly during the first lockdown their employers were happy to allow them to wfh whilst looking after the kids but are not doing that this time, or closed the business and furloughed them but are not doing that this time.

cadburyegg · 07/01/2021 17:07

They managed to survive without school doing first lockdown, funny that.

I don't get this argument. Plenty of peoples' circumstances have changed in the last year, mine included. I didn't need the key worker place last lockdown because my children's father and I were still together and although we were/are both keyworkers, we were both working from home. Now we have separated and although I'm still working from home, he has a key worker job out of the home. It's one thing juggling working with children when you have the other parent there to split shifts. It's entirely different when you are a single parent.

Whatwill2021bringus · 07/01/2021 17:07

My neighbours have claimed they are both keyworkers and their kids are in school 5 days a week which is odd as the school is mainly offering 2-3 days per child.. Tbf the husband is a keyworker but the mum is at home... I don’t blame them but it’s not a fair system at all. I wouldn’t be as annoyed so much but the same mum shamed me last year as when my vulnerable son went back to school for 2 days a week for about 3 weeks in July to get him used to it before September as advised by the school. Apparently I was taking a space from working parents - my partner worked all the way through but doesn’t meet criteria as a keyworker and DS is vulnerable.

Yet we cannot get a space this time. He will really struggle settling into school again once they open (when that it is) when he gets back so the school are digging a massive hole for themselves with DS and his 1:1 ta. It will be awful when they open. For weeks he was really unsettled and disruptive at school so much so I had the school senco and social services on my backs wondering if something had changed at home as DS was a shell of his usual shelf - everything was fine at home. He just couldn’t cope with school after so long off.

moomin11 · 07/01/2021 17:19

@unmarkedbythat

I think what is going to piss me off most about this lockdown is the stream of these fucking posts.

adapt my hours around my children's school work and will just have to run myself ragged over the next few months

I am glad you can, but concerned that you are dim enough to realise that many people cannot adapt their hours to suit themselves.

Well said!
peoniesandfreesias · 07/01/2021 17:23

Apparently yes OP, everyone is a keyworker this time around. We might as well just open our local school up fully 🤦‍♀️. Perhaps that's what the govt want...schools opened by stealth 🤔

buckeejit · 07/01/2021 17:36

I definitely think more people will use their key worker space in school this time as there's a lot of Covid fatigue. Everyone willing to 'do their bit' but only up until a point.

I'm a 'key worker' as a childminder. It's bloody awful having 5-6 children all day every day when you can't go anywhere much, yet there are other childminders discussing sending their dc to school because it's so hard homeschooling & working!

AlwaysColdHands · 07/01/2021 17:41

So tired of reading all this sniping about it. People should trust schools who are able to use their judgement, who know children and families and their needs (certainly at primary).

We are both key workers, I’m wfh. Last time we didn’t use the space because my partner got some furlough and then used all his annual leave, he has practically none left now, and no furlough this time.

No furlough for me (education sector).

Lots of us feel terrible enough about having to use a keyworker space without other people making judgments and making us feel worse about it.

My own fault for reading threads about it, I know.....

rolliy · 07/01/2021 17:59

Completely agree, some posters are completely obsessed and posting all day about this. I hope that they haven’t taken a key worker place to spend hours on mumsnet justifying that place.

How can you be so hypocritical?

rolliy · 07/01/2021 18:03

Look I would quit if I was you. Your answers seem to be belittling people and picking on certain ones. It must give you great pleasure. Do you do this all day?

Are you ok?

I was accused of saying things I didn't say & responding to that which = belittling?! At least own your own behaviour.

Do you do this all day?

Do you? Clearly you have an issue on being pulled up on points. Go & put your big pants on.

Do us all a favour and shoo

Likewise or at the very least bring something useful to the table.

SueEllenMishke · 07/01/2021 18:11

They managed to survive without school doing first lockdown, funny that.

Can you not understand that people's circumstances may not be the same as they were in March? It's not that difficult to comprehend.

rolliy · 07/01/2021 18:14

March was very different, employers are much more reluctant now to be flexible, furlough etc.

SueEllenMishke · 07/01/2021 18:16

I’ve been under the impression you are a key worker if your job is listed as one on the government website,

Ah but the population of mn know better obviously!!!!
It's amazing how people can know the ins and outs of pretty much every job in existence as well as details about individual family circumstances.... it's pretty impressive really. 🙄

mistletoeandsigh · 07/01/2021 18:16

I've been hearing these things but doesn't seem to be the case in my dd's school. Out of her class of 30 I think there are 5 attending school at the moment. She isn't one of them. I'm really stressed at the thought of home schooling and looking after pre schooler and working whilst recovering from Covid though Sad

Winter2020 · 07/01/2021 18:26

My older son is staying at home but I expect he would be a allowed a place if I asked as I am a waking night carer for adults with learning disabilities and my husband a teacher.

I didn't ask as my older son is ok for a while if I need to sleep after a night shift. My little one has been allowed to go to nursery.

Parents at school that "know me" in passing to say hi, know whose mum I am, see me at the school gates and in the past all the school events, could easily think I am a stay at home mum. I'm not I work nights. People are not always right about what they think they know.

wonderstuff · 07/01/2021 18:28

My secondary had 30 kids rising to 45 last lockdown, we've had just under 90 this time, we're a secondary so its manageable, but primary schools are also seeing a doubling of numbers which is far from ideal.

Persianparadise · 07/01/2021 18:34

Today 18:28 wonderstuff

My secondary had 30 kids rising to 45 last lockdown, we've had just under 90 this time, we're a secondary so its manageable, but primary schools are also seeing a doubling of numbers which is far from ideal.

My daughters (8)class has 22 out of a class of 29 attending, my son (10) has 26 out of a class of 33. I feel bad for the teachers to tell you the truth.

Mayra1367 · 08/01/2021 10:32

Not sure if this has already been said but .,,

I work in a school we are nearly at 80% with key worker / vulnerable children.
I appreciate it’s very difficult for parents to hone school and work from home . However, for the people who are complaining to my school that their children are not receiving 5 hours 1:1 teaching via Teams I would like to ask a question.

If your employer doesn’t think it’s safe for you to go into an office with adults who understand social distancing why you you think it’s safe for me and my colleagues to work with no PPE and no social distancing ?

As a school we are doing as much as we can , teaching on line , delivering resources, holding on line games , quizzes and story time to help ease the burden fir parents.
Unless we take everyone in again I’m not sure what we can do .

Rant and break time over I shall return to my class .

GloriaSass · 08/01/2021 11:09

most of the children at my school fall into the vulnerable category. They wouldn't be getting any education at all at home. They might not be getting adequate parenting. While i know it's not ideal for teachers, I think on balance, those children need to be at school.

I can't comment on other schools, or people who are sending their children in when they shouldn't. But in my daughter's school, the children who are there, need to be there.

bravoy · 08/01/2021 11:12

Our primary is higher than last time but maybe 25%. Some schools will have high figures but unsure how representative that is.

Uzaj · 08/01/2021 11:14

@Mayra1367 I actually feel very very sorry for the teachers right now. You are under extreme pressure and your work load has been increased drastically.

My question here is: why the school is at 80% capacity? It is not just your school, my daughter’s is at 50% capacity. We are in national lockdown, we will never reduce the numbers and support NHS if schools are almost full. What is even point of not opening them to everyone? And as you said, how about teachers exposing themselves as well so drastically? My best friends teacher caught Covid just before end of term and she still didn’t recover.

I heard in radio today someone saying that his daughter is a dog groomer and she got offered a letter from the employer that she is a key worker now. I totally understand everyone’s situation is different and number of kids that don’t have access to laptops or tablets is massive...but if some changes are not being made we will have outburst of teachers ill with Covid and critical workers that will need to self isolate.

In regards of home schooling....my daughter is 5 and she is homeschooled right now. Both myself and my husband could classify as key workers with the current guidelines but we believe we are not ones and there are other people who need the place more. We try to work before my daughter wakes up and when she goes to bed as it is tough to get things done. However we got informed yesterday that my daughter will get only pre-recorded materials. I’m actually really worried how it is going to work. 3h of the pre-recorded material which actually doesn’t include interaction with the teacher. I feel really sorry for her as her socialising time is limited to myself and my husband ..we obviously are going to do our best and we are giving it a try for a few days, but right now I think I would prefer to have less time homeschooling but they have actually live sessions where teacher can ask kids questions and there is communication back and forth...even if it is for 1-2h compare to 3h of pre-recording things. I think we all just looking what is best for our kids. And I know we will never make everyone happy about it. But listening today epidemiologist at the radio, we are not getting out of this anytime soon. I already prepared myself for the homeschooling till at least Easter.
I would actually love to hear about other schools and what they are providing to homeschooled kids?

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