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Is the world and their dog key workers!!!

377 replies

anxiouscrazymum · 06/01/2021 15:09

So I am not a key worker, I work 3 days a week and have 2 KS1 children.
I am having to adapt my hours around my children's school work and will just have to run myself ragged over the next few months like many others!
AIBU to think that some parents are taking the P@@s and using Key worker benefits to be bloody lazy.
Why are the allowed to send children 5 days if they only work 2/3?
Why are they allowed to send in if their partner is furloughed or working from home?
Why are they allowed to send children in of the just work weekends in a supermarket normally?
We have 14 out of 30 children in my DS class at school, they have the class teacher with them and also have each other.
I feel my children are being penalised and will miss out on school and social interaction all because I am not a key worker:
If there were less children in, the teacher would be able to undertake zoom classes and online interactions. Because of the number of children in we just get set daily tasks!
Sorry for my rant AIBU x

OP posts:
Jijithecat · 07/01/2021 11:55

@Uzaj I'd love to go into work but someone in my team has tested positive so we're not allowed to go in. My neighbours probably think that I'm taking the piss by sending my kids to school whilst I work from home, but actually if I went into work everyone would be more at risk at the moment.

Grace58 · 07/01/2021 11:57

I don’t think most parents are taking the piss, but I think a lot of employers are by claiming they are keyworkers when they’re not really. I have a friend who works in insurance in an office based job, her boss has told her she’s a key worker and must be in the office and has given her a letter stating this to her nursery. It’s put her in a really unfair position!

movingonup20 · 07/01/2021 12:10

On a separate matter, yes some dogs are key workers - sheepdogs, drugs dogs, police dogs Grin

rolliy · 07/01/2021 12:18

🤣🤣

1AngelicFruitCake · 07/01/2021 12:23

I’m a teacher working 4 days. My partner is working full time at home. My children have been given a day a week and I feel so guilty for taking it. Im trying to remind myself that due to my job in the last lockdown, my children weren’t in school, were frustrated as I worked once I got home on home learning and they were unable to go out with me for 2 weeks in their summer holiday as I was isolating after being near a member of staff who had Covid. A lot of pressure was put on my partner to fill in the gaps.

Persianparadise · 07/01/2021 12:59

I just feel awful for my kids plus other kids stuck at home. Hopefully they won’t do a zoom call so my kids can’t see that most of their classmates are in school. The whole system is unfair and the whole thing should be scrapped and just open up the school. Shutting the schools isn’t benefiting anyone. Open up all the schools then concentrate in other places were the disease is spreading eg the borders, supermarkets, parks. If more people were out policing these places properly, eg supermarkets, too many people in, whole families there on a social outing, play parks, no social distancing. Teenagers walking around in groups. To many people aren’t taking it seriously. I don’t think shutting down the schools is the answer, the only people who are preaching to shut the schools are parents who have spaces at school already.

madcow88 · 07/01/2021 13:01

@Mumtimes2

Just because the teacher is in class supervising students it does not mean they are getting face to face teaching provision. In my school, students who are in school are working on exactly the same remote learning tasks as everybody else at home. The teacher supervises, doesn’t teach. This is because the teacher is run ragged dealing with multiple queries from all students about the work that has been set.

Not sure what other schools are doing. I am in secondary, so may be different in primaries.

My DD yr5 has a key worker place. Her teacher and the year 6 teacher have bubbled together one of them will teach the children in school the other monitor and teach the children at home online. This year keyworker places have to be taught properly not just for child care.
rolliy · 07/01/2021 13:07

Shutting the schools isn’t benefiting anyone

Even if national attendance is as high as 50% (I doubt it) & more workers are at home & there are less people on public transport as a result there will be an impact. It will not be zero impact on the R rate.

madcow88 · 07/01/2021 13:25

@DailyScribbles

If there's a parent or parents at home, the kids should be at home.

Yes it's hard. Yes it drives you insane. Yes it's an almost impossible juggle and it's rough on the kids. But it's what hundreds of thousands of WFH parents are doing every single day.

I'm a 'key worker' but I work from home. My partner (not KW) works from home. I wouldn't dream of sending the kids to school.

The KW places aren't a reward for being a key worker, nor are they to make life easier for KW parents working from home, or so that non-KW dads with 'big jobs' can work in peace (which seems to be the subtext of many of the posts justifying sending kids to school).

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Total bollocks. I am a probation officer, is it appropriate for my 9 year old to hear my video calls asking a sex offender about their offence or their masturbating habits??? I am classed as a key worker and I am working from home but I am in and out visiting offenders and make calls to offender throughout the day!!! Do you think my child should be home with me?? Have I taken the piss taking up my key worker place? Seriously people should keep out of other peoples business.
Persianparadise · 07/01/2021 13:30

Today 13:07 rolliy

Shutting the schools isn’t benefiting anyone

Even if national attendance is as high as 50% (I doubt it) & more workers are at home & there are less people on public transport as a result there will be an impact. It will not be zero impact on the R rate.
Bookmark

No shutting schools certainly aren’t benefiting anyone in my area, both of my kids classes are nearly full. The kids are losing out in their education. I fear for their future if this continues. The only way it will work is scale down the keyworker placement considerably. Supermarkets are busier than ever also,

rolliy · 07/01/2021 13:33

No shutting schools certainly aren’t benefiting anyone in my area, both of my kids classes are nearly full.

Yes but it's not about the individual or a few schools it's the collective effect.

if you are not happy with the teaching provided remotely you can complain to the school/Ofsted.

rolliy · 07/01/2021 13:33

Supermarkets are busier than ever also

How do you know?

GeordieGreigsButtButtZoom · 07/01/2021 13:39

Email sent out by our school. It's nearly 50% full and will go to 60% if all vulnerable kids are taken in. Head teacher is very diplomatically asking stupid and selfish fuckers to STOP TAKING THE FUCKING PISS and if they don't start doing the decent thing, she will have to make them.

It is NOT a small number of piss takers. It is probably half or more of them and it's making a mockery of a supposed lockdown. Once again, if you really really do need your place, we are not talking about you. But it is not a small number of piss takers. Not even when non entities chime in with various forms of "nuh-uh, no you, lol, blame schools". It's NOT the fault of schools or teachers. It's the collective shitawful work of the Dolmio puppets in the cabinet and the high number of exploitative piss taking parents.

Persianparadise · 07/01/2021 13:45

rolliy

Supermarkets are busier than ever also

How do you know?

Well how do I know? Well I live next to 4 large supermarkets in my town. I deal with my work with them, and they are busier than ever. No social distancing, family on an outing, kids running about.

Beautifulbonnie · 07/01/2021 13:48

Eh?

I was in a few days ago. Everyone didn’t want to send their kids to school and now everyone wants to send them in?

My heads whizzing round.

rolliy · 07/01/2021 13:50

family on an outing, kids running about.

I thought all the kids were in school? 🤔

GeordieGreigsButtButtZoom · 07/01/2021 13:53

@Beautifulbonnie

Eh?

I was in a few days ago. Everyone didn’t want to send their kids to school and now everyone wants to send them in?

My heads whizzing round.

Well that was when we thought it was going to have a net public health benefit and only those truly vulnerable children, or those with truly key worker parents who honestly couldn't do any schooling would be in. Now that it seems the schools are actually half full of piss takers, there's no significant public benefit (the schools are not closed and full teaching staff are in) and the unlucky kids are losing out on education and socialisation.

Twice as many kids in school than at home in my daughter's class, I'm on the Zoom calls. At least three of those have a stay at home parent and others are furloughed. It is NOT a small number of piss takers.

Persianparadise · 07/01/2021 14:04

rolliy

family on an outing, kids running about.

I thought all the kids were in school? 🤔
Bookmark

What 24/7??

Persianparadise · 07/01/2021 14:11

GeordieGreigsButtButtZoom
👏👏 yes that sums it up very nicely

sheworkshardforthemoney · 07/01/2021 14:13

Someone covid positive from the hub at one of our schools (trust) some kids and teachers now isolating for 10 days

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 07/01/2021 14:15

@rolliy

Shutting the schools isn’t benefiting anyone

Even if national attendance is as high as 50% (I doubt it) & more workers are at home & there are less people on public transport as a result there will be an impact. It will not be zero impact on the R rate.

If MN was a true representation of society then all schools will be full while their SAHP sit at home doing fuck all. That's what loads of posters suggest other parents are doing Hmm

Meanwhile on the shitty side of town (with 2 Mumsnetter in 3 square mile max), the primaries have 5 kids per room max and the parents are fleeing round the care home they clean or serving click and collect at the local shops.

The rest of the kids are at home attempting to get online with the last bit of data on their parents phone, while their mam panics about how to feed the kids an extra meal a day she hadn't budgeted for.

chaosrabbitland · 07/01/2021 14:20

@Hotcuppatea

So much jealousy around this issue.
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MYNAMEISIKEA1 · 07/01/2021 14:24

OP are you my sister??? I swear i had this same exact conversation with her yesterday.

Awomanwalksintoabar · 07/01/2021 14:24

@Orangeteddy your kid seeing all his classmates at school on Zoom absolutely breaks my heart. It’s what I most fear for my children, whose term starts on Monday (not UK). Government guidance is that we should keep them home “if we possibly can”. However, the school is saying they don’t have to go, but they can if you want. I feel so conflicted. On the one hand, I’ve got no problem keeping them at home: they’re good kids, and I’ve got time to dedicate to them. On the other hand, what if the majority of other children are attending? Why should my DCs miss out on all that education and socialising because I made a moral decision “for the greater good” on their behalf? We’re not all in it together if no-one else is in it! As I say, not UK, so the criteria are different, but I really agree with you and @GeordieGreigsButtButtZoom. I want to do the decent thing for wider society, but not if my own children are disadvantaged by it.

chaosrabbitland · 07/01/2021 14:33

forgive me but im struggling to understand just how keyworkers are taking the piss , you are either a keyworker or you arent ... its down to the childs school to check you actually are and ask for proof via a letter from the company as my dd school have asked for , now if schools are not asking for this and just allowing any parent to claim they are kw then im sorry but thats the fault of schools being lax and being complicit in ppl taking the piss . another thing is the gov list of keyworkers is if im not wrong longer than last time as in garden centres , so its not the fault of these ppl that work in these places , have no choice to be furloughed and sit in the warm all cosy at home like so again be pissed at the goverment who drew up the bloody list s not the poor sods who merely happen to work at these places . they and me as im a non critcal keyworker so i have no choice but to for in and no im not leaving my dd for hours on end on her own so that ppl sitting at home can feel better about im not taking the sodding piss even though she old enough to be left , makes me laugh really as im sure if some of these ppl moaning had to be forced to go out and take a bigger chance of catching this damned virus there would be a big sudden backtrack

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