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Is the world and their dog key workers!!!

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anxiouscrazymum · 06/01/2021 15:09

So I am not a key worker, I work 3 days a week and have 2 KS1 children.
I am having to adapt my hours around my children's school work and will just have to run myself ragged over the next few months like many others!
AIBU to think that some parents are taking the P@@s and using Key worker benefits to be bloody lazy.
Why are the allowed to send children 5 days if they only work 2/3?
Why are they allowed to send in if their partner is furloughed or working from home?
Why are they allowed to send children in of the just work weekends in a supermarket normally?
We have 14 out of 30 children in my DS class at school, they have the class teacher with them and also have each other.
I feel my children are being penalised and will miss out on school and social interaction all because I am not a key worker:
If there were less children in, the teacher would be able to undertake zoom classes and online interactions. Because of the number of children in we just get set daily tasks!
Sorry for my rant AIBU x

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GeordieGreigsButtButtZoom · 07/01/2021 14:37

GeordieGreigsButtButtZoom. I want to do the decent thing for wider society, but not if my own children are disadvantaged by it.

WE ALL FEEL LIKE THAT! MY CHILD IS BEING DISADVANTAGED! FOR NO PUBLIC BENEFIT BECAUSE THE SCHOOL IS STILL FULL OF PISS TAKERS!!

Anyway, I just popped in because I saw a note from a friend who doesn't work because she is the official carer to her very seriously disabled husband. She can't get a school place. She has to home school while providing round the clock care to a man who cannot walk and needs assistance for dressing and personal care. Meanwhile, more than half the class is in because couples with SAHPs or a furloughed parent and those who just plain could tag team while working from home are TAKING THE PISS.

It is NOT a small number of piss takers!

chaosrabbitland · 07/01/2021 14:45

@Grace58

I don’t think most parents are taking the piss, but I think a lot of employers are by claiming they are keyworkers when they’re not really. I have a friend who works in insurance in an office based job, her boss has told her she’s a key worker and must be in the office and has given her a letter stating this to her nursery. It’s put her in a really unfair position!
yep and now shes been designated a key worker if she has no choice but to claim the place for her child she will no doubt run a slating as a piss taking keyworker parent by the mob on her all with the arse because they feel hard done by becos they cant sent theirs to school . its the same with me , work in a large store , not a supermarket ,but we have a pharmacy so my comany rather than put us sales assistants on furlough and just run the pharmacy had just said we are all of us keyworkers so they can keep all the stores open as usual and take more money . and this is the direct fault of the goverment for being too bloody lax when it comes to small print and what is keyworker jobs
DailyScribbles · 07/01/2021 15:05

@madcow88 You absolutely have a point and thank you for raising that.
I have friends who are eg mental health practitioners doing sensitive zoom calls with suicidal patients. Of course their kids should not be around when they are WFH.

But I also have friends who are WFH civil servants, accountants etc. People whose jobs are a pain to do with kids around, but in the same way everyone's job is a pain. Should their kids be at school? Absolutely not IMO.

BTW I fall into that category. I'm a 'key worker' but I WFH. It sucks. But there's no reason for my kids to be at school.

Uzaj · 07/01/2021 15:06

We have just received an email from council stating that school is open ONLY to critical workers now. If schools feels that you are not one you will need to provide letter. Additionally school will be questioning about 2nd parent and if he is at home. If so, kids will have to stay at home at least there are other reasons they can’t. Im now curious to see if my daughter’s school capacity decreases from 50%

chaosrabbitland · 07/01/2021 15:12

@Figgygal

People who are genuinely within the criteria taking spaces isn’t the issue I know people who work in a CallCenter whose employers are issuing essential worker letters as they work in financial services........selling car insurance My own employer is issuing letters for the most tenuous reasons so it is open to abuse
but its not the people working in these places that are abusing the system is it ? its their bloody companies they work for , if now they suddenly find themselves classified as keyworkers and have to apply for a school place that is the position they have been forced into and its annoying to me they are then labelled pisstakers . anger really needs i reckon to be redirected at these companies and at the goverment for allowing them to get away with it , its really not fair i think that these people like myself are classified key workers when really we arent and then forced to keep going in exposing our risk to catching covid and then having labels stuck on us to boot
Whatafustercluck · 07/01/2021 15:32

The more I think about this, the more I wonder whether some criteria needs to be set in much the same way as general school admissions. So set a percentage of spaces that can be allocated to key worker children, then apply a pecking order for fairness:

  1. Two key worker parents who both work outside the home, or a single key worker parent;
  2. Two key worker parents who both wfh, or a single key worker;
  3. One key worker plus one ft worker (cannot work from home)
  4. One key worker plus one ft 'other' worker both wfh

Etc etc until the quota is filled.

It seems the only fair way to do it i think. Otherwise it's purely subjective (and often quite hurtful) assumptions about who is more deserving of a place. And not all schools have seen huge numbers and are both willing and able to take category 4 and 'below' as above.

rolliy · 07/01/2021 15:40
  • family on an outing, kids running about.

I thought all the kids were in school? 🤔
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What 24/7??

Do most families go on days out to the super market at night?

Plus you said

Supermarkets are busier than ever also

Not supermarkets are busier than ever at night.

Persianparadise · 07/01/2021 16:00

rolliy

Do most families go on days out to the super market at night?

Give it a rest, how do you know when the supermarkets are busy in my area. I know because my line of work deals with them. Plus I see day and night how busy they are. Your being annoying now

TheYearOfSmallThings · 07/01/2021 16:00

its really not fair i think that these people like myself are classified key workers when really we arent and then forced to keep going in exposing our risk to catching covid and then having labels stuck on us to boot

Fair point.

rolliy · 07/01/2021 16:07

Persianparadise
Im sure it is annoying being pulled up on your BS so give it a rest & I won't have justification.

rolliy · 07/01/2021 16:10

how do you know when the supermarkets are busy in my area.

How do you know how busy schools are nationally?

So why spout this

Shutting the schools isn’t benefiting anyone.

I won't expect a dignified response.

Pigeonsareclever · 07/01/2021 16:13

Rolliy you are getting on my nerves too now. Constantly nitpicking at people, I must say that some people have been on here all day arguing about justifying their key worker place.

I am glad the schools are clamping down because I know the system is being abused and the national press is reporting high levels of places being taken up and some schools having to close altogether.

This is an emergency and I don’t care if Dave left his tax return late, the country will not collapse because of a short lockdown.

Companies need to stop pressurising parents and do the right thing.

Persianparadise · 07/01/2021 16:14

y

Persianparadise
Im sure it is annoying being pulled up on your BS so give it a rest & I won't have justification.

Oh give it a rest, piss of with your verbal diarrhoea. No one wants to listen to your tripe!

rolliy · 07/01/2021 16:15

🥱

Pigeonsareclever · 07/01/2021 16:16

There is your dignified response @Persianparadise

rolliy · 07/01/2021 16:16

No one wants to listen to your tripe!

The oracle has arrived!

rolliy · 07/01/2021 16:16

@Pigeonsareclever It was predictable wasn't it 😆

Pigeonsareclever · 07/01/2021 16:22

[quote rolliy]@Pigeonsareclever It was predictable wasn't it 😆[/quote]
Do you not think you should have a break?

rolliy · 07/01/2021 16:23

No more so than you?

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Pigeonsareclever · 07/01/2021 16:26

@rolliy

No more so than you?
You have been banging the same drum for hours/days. I have not, we get it, you think accountants are critical workers. You don’t believe schools have got lots of children in them and everyone is lying apart from you.

You won’t change my mind and I won’t change yours. Keep posting your smiley faces if it makes you happy.

Persianparadise · 07/01/2021 16:27

rolliy

No more so than you?

Who made you the cock of the walk?
I made a statement that my local supermarkets in my area have been busy which families. I work in this industry so I know this is true.

rolliy · 07/01/2021 16:32

I never said all accountants were critical workers all?

You don’t believe schools have got lots of children in them and everyone is lying apart from you.

Again I haven't said that or accused anyone of lying. What I have said is
some schools will have a higher % in but this is not necessarily nationwide & will likely be age related.
And not all SAHPs who send kids in are chancers because the school community will not be privy to all information.

You have been banging the same drum for hours/days.

Likewise otherwise you wouldn't know what I was posting.

You won’t change my mind and I won’t change yours

You are just as entitled to an opinion as I am. I'm just not a hypocrite.

rolliy · 07/01/2021 16:36

Who made you the cock of the walk?

eh?

I responded to a post from @Pigeonsareclever that said

Do you not think you should have a break?

Surely the poster telling me to take a break is the cock?

You are the same poster though I guess....

Timbucktime · 07/01/2021 16:40

What job do you have to do for some people to consider you a ‘real key worker’?

I’ve been under the impression you are a key worker if your job is listed as one on the government website,

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