To think accountancy isn't a "keyworker" job?

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One of the parents at school is a self employed accountant who works from home, but sending kids into school. The other parent works out of the home (not a key worker) how is this allowed? Claims to be an essential worker (doesn't work for the nhs or anything, just accounts for small businesses)

@wasthataburp

Ffs. People can't stop working.

People need to earn money

People need to pay taxes

How hard is that to comprehend.

Oh - so is every job now on the critical list?

People do not seem to get this. The purpose is to stop transmission in schools. How exactly will that happen if the schools are pretty much full?

I’m sure others have said but it’s certainly very essential at this time of year...

@redmarauder Nitpicking I see. I was quite clearly giving examples of roles, not a full list and clearly mention non essential retail. So the opposite of that is essential retail which IS essential in relation to the pandemic. You are correct, some accountants are civil servants

@ceeveebee every job can be on the critical list but it depends on who you work for.

[quote RedMarauder]**@ceeveebee* every job can be on the critical list but it depends on who* you work for.[/quote]
It seems you did understand then...

@ceeveebee yes that is literally what I am saying. Unless somehow a person doesn't need wok because they are financially secure anyway then yes - every job is critical.

@Muttitoonegirl I am related to and know a few accountants. Actually, I forgot I know at least one who works for a hospital trust. They have fancy titles but are trained and experienced accountants.

I swear no one has any common sense these days. The government cannot specify whether every individual job is classified as key or not. Tax payers are adults, and are expected to make sensible decisions as to whether these things affect them or not. If this particular accountant cannot do his January workload while home schooling his children, then he has made a decision about this. If we don't trust people to make sensible decisions then everything falls apart. People on this thread could try applying a little common sense rather than seeing things in black and white or quoting "THE RULES". Like maybe keeping quiet if you don't know what this type of accountant actually does, or that not all accountants do the same job.

@SueEllenMishke

Another one?? Is this the new MN hobby...analysing whether people are 'worthy' of their key worker place at school??

Unless you know the ins and outs of every job as well as everyone's personal circumstances you should keep your judgmental attitude to yourself.

I was just thinking this! It’s replaced analysing the contents of people’s Tesco shop 😂

@MargosKaftan

OP - has it occurred to you that they are lying to save face? That their child has gone to school because they are classed as vulnerable in some way but the parent is hiding behind "key worker" rather than invite people like you in to their business to judge them about why their child has been given a place at school due to being vulnerable.

You never fully know what's going on with others. Its hard for some people to admit problems.

I think this is the most relevant point. There are many reasons why the school could have come to this decision, but they don't have to be shared with other parents.

@RedMarauder they are key workers then. But not ALL accountants are. No matter how essential the people or businesses who receive their services feel the accountant is

@Muttitoonegirl I had this discussion with a senior guy at my workplace before just lockdown one.

As he forgot that lots of roles are involved in keeping the country's infrastructure going.

@ceeveebee

Speaking an an accountant, I think it’s morally reprehensible to twist the key worker category of “financial service infrastructure” to send your child to school in the midst of a pandemic. Accountancy is easily done from home and can be done at weekends and evenings. Do people not understand that the whole point of the school closures is to reduce to the bare minimum those children who simply must be at school. This pandemic will never be over if we don’t all do the right thing

Agree completely.

@RedMarauder yes, we do seem to agree on that. But not ALL accounts and finance dept workers are key workers in terms of the pandemic.

I work in an accountancy firm in payroll. If I dont go to work keyworkers won't get paid and those on furlough won't get their furlough money. I cant do it from home because our company does not have the correct insurance and procedures in place for me to take the paper based files home. I will happily stay at home instead but I dont think people will appreciate not being paid.

If you can class an accountant as a keyworker so their children can go to school then nearly every job is 'essential' surely.

I guess the government wants tax income so they can pay for nhs/schools/furlough. Presumably that's why its classed critical work, if not done then payments will stop.

Definitely key worker but our school aren't letting you send kids in if only one of you is a key worker and/ or you can work from home....

[quote wasthataburp]@ceeveebee yes that is literally what I am saying. Unless somehow a person doesn't need wok because they are financially secure anyway then yes - every job is critical.

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That is completely and 100% not what the critical worker definition for childcare is about
It is about a job being “Critical to the COVID response”
Not critical to the individual, or to the client, or to the company.
Otherwise every child who does not have an SAHP would be in school!

@YuletidePizza it depends who/what type of business the account works for as to whether they are called a key worker in terms of the pandemic

Point is she is working from home like many of us and should keep her children home like we have to..her job isnt out the house surely thats the people who need places at school.

[quote Muttitoonegirl]@RedMarauder yes, we do seem to agree on that. But not ALL accounts and finance dept workers are key workers in terms of the pandemic.[/quote]
I agree with this - I am a prime example. I’m the Accounts Manager of a small business, but payroll is done externally. Almost all elements of my job can be done from home (except for every 2 weeks or so I need to go into the office to get invoices received in the post, do the banking etc)...I would never dream of considering myself as a key worker.

Saying someone isn’t a key worker isn’t saying that their job isn’t important. Not by any stretch.

But the line has to be drawn somewhere or else they might as well just open the schools to all.

@ceeveebee no just critical to keeping a roof over their kids heads or giving their family a meal or keeping them in clothing.

I do understand what you are saying though. It's not you I don't agree with it's just the whole policy at a higher level