Opinions you have that aren't popular on mumsnet(2)

[Lockdowner35]

As the last thread reached 1000 posts

I will start

Jo Swinson would have do a better job than Boris on Coronavirus

Unless it's an actual emergency "posting for traffic" makes you seen very arrogant.

Transwomen are women. Anyone who wants to put up with the shit that most women do should be embraced into the fold.

I am not less of a feminist for thinking that.

Obesity is caused by genetics and environment and it is not as simple as eat less and move more and that thinking is why more and more people are becoming obese. The Government needs to focus on the root of the problem, which is our overly processed food and lack of work/life balance.

The idea that breast is best is based on some pretty loose studies.

A glass of wine every night doesn't make you an alcoholic and the recommended units per week don't have much of a scientific basis.

The term alcoholic is used far too loosely.

The UAE is a fascinating place with a lot of culture and history.

[quote JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows]@Danu2021 what's the difference between having a snake and having a dog?

My Uni flat mate kept snakes, they were amazing and used to sit on our knees whilst we watched TV [/quote]
Because if your Dog escapes, you don't have to sleep with one eye open.

@Danu2021 by flat mates snakes were defanged IIRC. I would be far more wary of a dog on the loose, they attack at far higher rates than snakes.

@IamTomHanks so if a white person wants to put up with the shit POC put up with should POC embrace their oppressors into the fold?

I'd never have a dangerous dog. I don't have a dog.

But I sure as HELL don't have a snake (or a rat).

Yuck. And worse than YUCK, it's like a sleepless night x 1000 kind of yuck.

I love pet rats they are actually very intelligent animals

I think people who call JKR transphobic are as are as thick as mince.

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows, I believe POC call those people allies not oppressors. You know, all the white people who are joining them on the front lines of the BLM protests. Allies.

The existence of trans women is not a threat to women's rights
And jkr can shut right up
First quote is not an unpopular opinion. I'd go so far as to say it's the majority opinion, even in JKR's house. If you bother to read what she actually said.
Second quote, well yes, women with unpopular opinions should shut up. Or maybe just add them to this thread?

[quote JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows]@IamTomHanks so if a white person wants to put up with the shit POC put up with should POC embrace their oppressors into the fold?[/quote]
yeh, if the trans women had to present ID confirming they'd had their penis removed then they could come in to women's wards, prisons, toilets but no, a man with a penis can't be wandering in to the same toilets as a 12 year old girl. The people who don't understand that this is a violation of women's rights need to google autogynephilia.

They also need to understand that what puts women at a disadvantage is their biological sex. Whether it's from employers and recruiters overlooking them because they're of an age to get pregnant or whether women can't go back to work because they're breastfeeding a sn child or whether women can't fight off a rapist or whether women have to go through their lives dealing with being objectified and leered at before becoming invisible and branded 'dotty'' after 50 it is every time her biological sex and not her gender that puts her at a disadvantage.

People who don't get it need to learn a bit more about what's at stake. Men who get turned on dressing up as women who have NO intention of ever losing their penis have accepted jobs to advocate for women. Wtaf. Not a problem here but in America my friend told me it's reached her own life, her daughters hockey team were flattened by a team with two trans girls on the team. ONe of them is going to college on a scholarship for a girl. So that is one more boy and one fewer girl who will access an unaffordable education.

@IamTomHanks you don't think white people (as a class) are oppressors of POC? Because it's the same principle - if I white person says they identify as black, and wants the shit that comes with being black, shouldn't they invite them into the fold?

If not, then why should women let their oppressors (men, or AMAB if you will) into their fold. The fold and spaces they have fought for for centuries to have as their own? You really think someone AMAB can say "I know how hard you have it" and we all have to plump the pillows for them coming into our spaces because they feel they know what being a woman is?

@Otellie

I think people who call JKR transphobic are as are as thick as mince.

yes to this

@Otellie

I think people who call JKR transphobic are as are as thick as mince.

Yes and probably sexist. Some men have said far worse things and seem to get a few pass. Cant imagine why, it's almost like trans rights activism is steeped in misogyny 🧐

‘All these lockdowns, shutting schools etc are not going to make the virus go away.’

Why would anyone say this when that’s exactly how more than 1 country has become covid free.

That people should post in the correct MN category. So stuff like this in "Chat", relationship issues in "Relationships", etc, rather than post all sorts of random stuff in AIBU "for the traffic". I mean, this thread is not an AIBU at all is it! I used to love this section but now half the threads don't really belong here. Not a popular opinion though.

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows

Also on those threads where people as "If you're a size 8 how tall are you and what do you weight?" I reckon about 90% of posters are liars. Because I can't figure out how someone who is 5 inches shorter than me and 2 stone heavier is a dress size smaller than I am.

Yes!

Also, I want my children at school. If you don’t, take them out. Stop moaning about it, just crack on, take them out and home school them if you don’t feel it’s safe. Stop starting 325 threads about it. Some of us want our children at school, in-fact I don’t know anyone in real life who wants to home school again, the parents I know dread the idea of it again. I do think teachers should be vaccinated btw.

People who have small families are completely in denial about how much damage they are also doing. Stop blaming it on a large families and change your own lifestyles if you’re that bothered. Go and live in a cave or something and stop moaning, because while you live in the modern world, YOU are part of the problem no matter how many kids you have.

@Otellie

I think people who call JKR transphobic are as are as thick as mince.

Indeed. As well as the people who bleat "TW are Women!" And genuinely are unable to understand why this position is harmful to actual women and girls. I know that they cannot possibly be educated around the issues if they think this.

Most people on the ‘feminism’ board have views that are actually more opressive to women than helpful.

People don't need to go to the doctors, or take their kids to the doctors, because they are having a little bit of a "down" week. It's not normal to always feel happy. And the mass medication of our society on anti-depressants is beyond alarming.

@IamTomHanks

Transwomen are women. Anyone who wants to put up with the shit that most women do should be embraced into the fold.

I am not less of a feminist for thinking that.

Obesity is caused by genetics and environment and it is not as simple as eat less and move more and that thinking is why more and more people are becoming obese. The Government needs to focus on the root of the problem, which is our overly processed food and lack of work/life balance.

The idea that breast is best is based on some pretty loose studies.

A glass of wine every night doesn't make you an alcoholic and the recommended units per week don't have much of a scientific basis.

The term alcoholic is used far too loosely.

The UAE is a fascinating place with a lot of culture and history.

I could’ve written this myself!!

Oooh, I have another one. Many people who have blue hair think they're really edgy, clever and inclusive, but really they're the most conforming bunch of thick narcissistic dullards in existence. I suspect deep down they really dislike themselves, even if they can't admit it to themselves. This inner self hatred has now turned outwards onto other women and this is the product of that. If you don't fall into this category and you have blue hair maybe change your hair colour.

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmellows I think when you're talking about something as complex as race and gender you can't apply black and whites like "All whites are oppressors of POC" or "All men are oppressors of women" because obviously you are then applying a blanket "thought" "action" "rule" on billions of individuals who all of minds of their own and can and do act in a way that is the opposite of that blanket "rule".

I think if you look at history, many white people marched with Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X, and accepted the prejudice that came with it. White people work at Civil Rights/inclusion not-for-profits, law firms, government programs, should they not allowed to be? Many white people marry POC and accepted the prejudice that comes with it, etc, and identify with their spouses and children. Should they not be part of the fold?

It's not the exact same experience, and I doubt any of them would claim they understand totally, but most POC are happy for the allies and except them into the fold.

But to suggest that they shouldn't be accepted by POC or be part of their fold (whatever the fuck that actually means) is pretty segregationist, and no good has ever come from segregation.

In some cases white people have managed to pretend to be black, based on false pretenses (completely false including made up education/backgrounds etc). Should these people be embraced? No. Anymore than any liars/fraudsters should.

As for transwomen. Obviously they do not have the EXACT SAME EXPERIENCE. Frankly no two women have the EXACT SAME EXPERIENCE. But many will face the prejudice that women do in the workplace/world once they have transitioned, along with the prejudice that they will face with being trans, and if they are willing to fight the good fight for greater pay equality, and better access to healthcare, and education, etc, etc, etc. Then I have no issues with that. As I have no issues with support from men who also support womens rights.

End of the day it's all the good fight.

“I really do think some people set out to hate their MILs before they've even clapped eyes on them. some people enjoy having enemies”

That is very true.