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Lockdowner35 · 03/01/2021 15:58

As the last thread reached 1000 posts

I will start

Jo Swinson would have do a better job than Boris on Coronavirus

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Blibbyblobby · 06/01/2021 14:58

I quite like Mrs Brown's Boys

FoxyTheFox · 06/01/2021 15:00

@Tollergirl ignore people like that, the majority of normal, rational people really don't care about how you feed your baby so long as you do.

Formula isn't bleach, its a nutritionally appropriate and suitable food for infants, and the decision of how to feed your baby absolutely should take into account your emotional and mental health (and physical health too), your family situation, your individual baby, and your circumstances for the next 6-12 months.

AmandaHoldensLips · 06/01/2021 15:02

Having children is a massive con and ruins countless lives.

Tollergirl · 06/01/2021 15:07

Ah thanks @FoxytheFox - just hit a nerve which it shouldn't because DC are teens now but it still makes me cross that others are so quick to make blanket statements about infant feeding. Imagine the same being said about labour- oh, having an epidural or caesarean shows that you aren't really cut out to be a mother, if you can't give birth without intervention then don't bother getting pregnant! ShockHmm

Sulusu · 06/01/2021 15:11

Children do not need to be entertained every minute of every day. They do not need music lessons, gymnastics, cubs, football training every week. So many children are exhausted at the end of a school day, just let them be kids and mooch around reading books and playing games, especially after school.

AbbeyBelfast · 06/01/2021 15:13

The anti-bottle brigade are such a bunch of self righteous c*nts, honestly.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 06/01/2021 15:15

@Tollergirl who said you were an inferior mother? That's YOUR guilt and judgement about yourself talking, nothing to do with me. I'm just stating that people with the "opinion" the formula is close to breast milk in terms of nutrition are wrong because opinion can't change fact. Breast milk as a substance is superior to formula when it comes to feeding. That's not to say the breastfeeding experience is best for every mother. But to state that breastfeeding is only marginally better than formula is factually incorrect.

I actually think that the general opinion on MN is that anyone who simply states that they breastfed is a smug bitch who wants to make other women feel bad 🤷‍♀️ you are a case in point - you've taken a factual point and made it about you.

Look if you want to formula feed, great, but own your decision and don't blame facts for making you "feel bad".

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 06/01/2021 15:18

FWIW I'm not anti-bottle, I couldn't give a crap who others feed their kids. But a grown woman attacking someone for correcting false information, for claiming "waaah you make us feel bad" (grow up FFS) is beyond childish.

Tollergirl · 06/01/2021 15:19

@James MiddletonsMarshmallows - oh thanks so much for giving me permission to "own my own decision" - how kind of you.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 06/01/2021 15:23

@Tollergirl are you ok? I didn't "give you permission" for anything - I gave advice because you're coming across as a petulant toddler. Accusing me of making you feel bad - that's on you mate. Don't blame me for your internalised guilt, that's for you to work on

Tollergirl · 06/01/2021 15:24

Oh and I am perfectly grown up thank you. But there maybe some first time mothers reading this who are struggling to breastfeed and the usual "formula is damaging " brigade will do little to assuage their guilt. Nothing is quite as black and white as your little chart presents and I would suggest that your response to my statement shows that you are the one who needs to grow up - or at least develop a little empathy.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 06/01/2021 15:28

It's literally that black and white because the chart is stating ingredients in both substances. It's not staying "formula feeders are baddies and breast feeders are goodies"

You are the only person on this thread who said "formula is damaging". I said nothing of the sort, I said as a substance breastmilk is more than "marginally" more beneficial. That's all. I like to think any level headed person would read it and not fall into a puddle of tears. Like I say - i correct an inaccuracy and YOU have had a wobble because you think me doing that is to make YOU feel bad. The only person who's judging you for your feeding choices is you, clearly.

FoxyTheFox · 06/01/2021 15:28

"I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad" says the woman throwing around terms like 'superior'.

Orlania · 06/01/2021 15:31

Probably best they don't click on an honest opinion thread then tollergirl. There's plenty of opinions about everything and not everyone will agree. That's the whole point. Unpopular opinions 🤷‍♀️ no empathy required on this thread.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 06/01/2021 15:32

@FoxyTheFox oh so stop being obtuse - I said superior in the context of the Milan's a substance, not as a mother. As well you know.

God I HATE it when people take it upon themselves to rewrite what I have said. It's a really poor way to operate as a human being.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 06/01/2021 15:33

*milk not Milan 🙄

FoxyTheFox · 06/01/2021 15:33

Saying "well don't click on the thread" doesn't then absolve someone of posting deliberately inflammatory comments. Not looking is not the responsibility of the people who are upset, the responsibility lies with people who hold abhorrent views to keep their yaps shut in the first place.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 06/01/2021 15:35

@FoxyTheFox I correct a factual inaccuracy. I simply said there's more than a marginal difference between breastmilk and formula milk. How is that inflammatory?

Would you prefer if I told lies and said "oh him it's the exact same, the multi million pound formula companies say so after all" (which is true they did used to) just in case someone with ten-year-old misplaced guilt and poor comprehension skills throws a paddy?

RunningFromInsanity · 06/01/2021 15:36

Flights should have a combined max body weight+luggage allowance.

If I’m only taking up 9stone of the plane weight, and someone else is taking up 14stone, I should be allowed more luggage weight to make up the difference.

FoxyTheFox · 06/01/2021 15:36

Perhaps you could chosen better wording than 'superior' given that you could already see such phrasing was bothering people?

Crazycrazylady · 06/01/2021 15:36

IMO Lots of Woman rush or don't put enough thought into who they have children with, You can always divorce/break up but a deadbeat will be your child's father for ever.
Its a far more important decision than marriage and should not be rushed into.

squeekums · 06/01/2021 15:36

why was blue hair chosen as the hair colour to attack anyway?

Who knows but i feel safe, purple must be ok

If you don't want to breastfeed because its icky, or too hard, or bottle fed babies are eaiser, then you need to have a think about whether motherhood is for you.
what shit

Being a parent is putting the child's needs 1st.
for many women that means FF as their need for their body back or a break is crucial for mental health and the ability to be a good parent
If i had to BF i would have been so resentful
The couple times dd was forced on me in hospital i felt like a mere cow and nothing more

MissConductUS · 06/01/2021 15:36

Americans are just as smart and nice as people anywhere else.

Tollergirl · 06/01/2021 15:38

I used "formula is damaging" to represent the tenor of many messages on many threads on MN over the years that I have read.

Funny how you say that I took a statement and made it about me - that is because many of these unpopular opinions are in fact thinly disguised digs at individuals or their behaviour (should have learned my lesson from the last one I suppose) so I'm signing off this one now.

I can assure you that I am not "wobbling" or crying, but neither am I your "mate".

Tollergirl · 06/01/2021 15:40

PS please don't diagnose 10 year guilt or poor comprehension skills via an internet forum - I am guessing that you are not qualified to do either!