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Opinions you have that aren't popular on mumsnet(2)

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Lockdowner35 · 03/01/2021 15:58

As the last thread reached 1000 posts

I will start

Jo Swinson would have do a better job than Boris on Coronavirus

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ooohbriefcase · 05/01/2021 07:57

@Sinful8 I know right! Because cave women had it so easy! Let's all go back to how it was then.

AlwaysLatte · 05/01/2021 08:03

Using expressions like Virtue Signalling, Gaslighting, Get Your Ducks in a Row and Give Your Head A Wobble don't make you sound wise and clever.

AlwaysLatte · 05/01/2021 08:14

I had 3 miscarriages and was !
very disappointed about them but not devastated as I knew that they're common and factored it in from the start. I like growing plants and I accept that not all the seeds I plant will come into full grown plants (but I don't think of my children as plants now they're here!)

BUT my point here is that I think that it's my view that is probably odd, not minimising it for anyone else. ThanksThanks to anyone suffering with it.

pictish · 05/01/2021 08:51

Virtue signalling is a brilliant expression IMO. It describes the behaviour perfectly. It has become a commonly used term in my house now.

“There’s Jane virtue signalling her tits off on Facey again...what does she want, a chocolate medal?”

Etc

OhBollocksToIt · 05/01/2021 08:54

I quite like give your head a wobble, as it describes it perfectly.

SoupDragon · 05/01/2021 08:54

“There’s Jane virtue signalling her tits off on Facey again...what does she want, a chocolate medal?”

Thing is, comments like that deserve a "virtue signalling" type label of their own. Calling someone out on it like that is as twattish as the original behaviour IMO.

pictish · 05/01/2021 09:07

If you say so. 😆

SomewhereInbetween1 · 05/01/2021 09:19

If your argument against transwomen "invading" cis, binary women's spaces is based on your fear that it could simply be a disingenuous man pretending to be trans to prey on women, then your issue is NOT with trans women, it's with predatory men, and if you can't see that, you're transphobic.

Danu2021 · 05/01/2021 09:22

But that will be recorded in the statistics as a crome committed by a woman.

Eventually this will have an impact on funding to women's orgainisations.
And who will be there to advocate for women? Trans women who have different concerns that's for sure.

Some people are just so incredibly naïve.

Danu2021 · 05/01/2021 09:25

@SomewhereInbetween1 so you acknowledge that men can be predatory. So why wouldnt predatory men abuse a nice loophole

praepondero · 05/01/2021 09:27

I believe that after a year or two (if fortunate) most marriages could be classed as marriages of convenience as the honeymoon period is clearly over, two incomes give a higher standard of living, if children on the picture - two-parent families give the offspring better chances in life than single-parent families - stats; for men, sex is on the tap even if not too exciting. For women, DH is the 'provider' taking a share of financial responsibility thus lightening the proverbial load.
If said DH then strays, DW must decide whether LTB is the correct course of action, or should she adhere to the old adage on 'a women needing 3 men in her life,: a Jaguar in the garage, lion in her bed and a jackass to pay for it all'. That presupposes a clear head and rational thinking.
Shoot me.....

Danu2021 · 05/01/2021 09:29

So true @praepondero

praepondero · 05/01/2021 09:37

Thank you, @Danu2021
I will shortly be told otherwise, tis' MN after all Grin
Divorce is so declasse and expensive and the new man would become a bore after a year or so so the cycle shall continue in perpetuity.
There are exceptions of course and true love does exist for the lucky few who were in the right place at the right time to meet it.

SoupDragon · 05/01/2021 09:39

@pictish

If you say so. 😆
Yes, yes I do.
Robbybobtail · 05/01/2021 09:40

If your argument against transwomen "invading" cis, binary women's spaces is based on your fear that it could simply be a disingenuous man pretending to be trans to prey on women, then your issue is NOT with trans women, it's with predatory men, and if you can't see that, you're transphobic

But how do you tell the difference? How does my dd tell the difference between a “trans”woman and a man in a dress entering the female changing room? Or just a man full-stop (albeit one who calls himself Sheila?)
If you don’t get how this could be a problem for women you really need to go and read up on the feminist boards.

I find the term “cis” highly offensive and if anyone called me that in rl they would get a mouthful. I am a woman, an adult human female. We don’t need another word thanks.

Also note there are no calls from trans men to call men “cis” men? Why do you think that is?

Wherehavetheteletubbiesgone · 05/01/2021 09:45

Too many people have children with partners that's aren't suitable.

Nobody forces anybody to have children therefore you are responsible for kids that come from your sperm or egg. It is nobody else's job to fund them through child benefit, getting bumped up the council house list or other benefits that you get for children.

Ottelie · 05/01/2021 09:46

then your issue is NOT with trans women, it's with predatory men, and if you can't see that, you're transphobic.

Male pattern violence risks in men and transwomen are the same. That's because underneath they are both the same thing. Pointing this out is not transphobia. The risks to women do not magically change because a male now identifies as a transwoman. If you can't see or understand that you're deluded. And hard of thinking.

Cheeserton · 05/01/2021 09:46

That everyone needs to take Covid measures seriously to get our lives back, and that no, you're not all special with exemptions just because you decided so (x 60 million...). Goes down like a lead balloon.

Ohalrightthen · 05/01/2021 09:46

@praepondero

I believe that after a year or two (if fortunate) most marriages could be classed as marriages of convenience as the honeymoon period is clearly over, two incomes give a higher standard of living, if children on the picture - two-parent families give the offspring better chances in life than single-parent families - stats; for men, sex is on the tap even if not too exciting. For women, DH is the 'provider' taking a share of financial responsibility thus lightening the proverbial load. If said DH then strays, DW must decide whether LTB is the correct course of action, or should she adhere to the old adage on 'a women needing 3 men in her life,: a Jaguar in the garage, lion in her bed and a jackass to pay for it all'. That presupposes a clear head and rational thinking. Shoot me.....
God, this is the most depressing thing on this thread. I'm really sorry for whatever happened in your life to lead you to thinking like this, it must have been fucking miserable and so disappointing.
Robbybobtail · 05/01/2021 09:52

ohalrighthen

I believe praepondero is on another thread atm saying how “women are so stupid” (to a woman who is clearly being used/abused and pushed into doing unwanted sexual acts with her “d”p) - so yeah, something going on there maybe.

praepondero · 05/01/2021 10:00

Calm, darlings. I am merely pointing out that marriage is first and foremost a legal contract and hysterical LTB advice should be taken with caution.
I'm quite satisfied with my lot, thank you, however, have extensive experience in getting bored with the opposite sex rather quickly, hence my humble opinion that grass is not always greener and all that.
The OP in the thread @Robbybobtail is referring to needs to employ her little grey cells.
Women do not need to be pathetic.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 05/01/2021 10:05

The stuck with a shit man threads are the most depressing reads
I was that woman , main difference is I’ve worked forever and am financially dependent
Also wasn’t married
Yeah , I’m lucky
Where does the tax payer need to step in ? Verbal abuse , gaslighting or when he physically beats the living shit out of her ?

It’s a total mind fuck
It’s a damm shame we all want partners and kids to fill the void isn’t it
Those damm biological and societal urges

SomewhereInbetween1 · 05/01/2021 10:07

Well this is surprising, my comment on a thread about unpopular opinions on Mumsnet, is unpopular on Mumsnet?

I am SHOOK!

praepondero · 05/01/2021 10:09

@Thisisworsethananticpated

My opinion goes for relationships between civilised people, naturally, if there's physical or emotional abuse on the picture, one must swiftly employ the best divorce lawyer in town and hit where it hurts.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 05/01/2021 10:12

Most people can’t afford shit hot lawyers
Family law is totally fucked in that you need money to fairly split
I’d say one thing only

Work
Never stop working
Gah 😣