To be a bit dismayed at the anti London sentiment I keep seeing here

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Not sure if it just happens to the threads I’m on, or if I’m being a bit sensitive - but reading on here at the moment you’d assume that the streets of London are something akin to scenes from 28 days later, and all of us are out throwing parties.

Those people must be intellectually challenged lovelemoncurd. I married a northerner and our son was born here. Our daughter in London.

Even growing up I have never experienced or heard any anti-northern sentiment.

I never heard it.

I heard other racism which ultimately made me distance myself from them for good, but that's another thread.

When I say them I mean my family.

I find it amusing tbh. I have family up north and like PP I was called brave for going to the supermarket 😂 or they assume we are barracading ourselves in, terrified of someone coming by and licking us.

It's just the latest trend, before it was knife/drug/gang crime. I don't think they quite believe me when I say that nothing has ever happened to me, I dont feel scared and that I go out by myself, at night in N.London 😁

Where as my (and most Londoners I know) opinion of areas in the North is "seems nice"

I love London and would go more frequently if the train fares weren't so expensive. I don't think londoners are rude. The rudest city I've ever been to was Exeter. Which was a shame as I loved the city.

Tbh I haven't met many southerners whilst on holiday. I quite like gran canaria and zante which is why I wondered which country was favoured:)

It really irritated me when the papers and news were showing pictures and footage of all the terrible ‘Londoners’ fleeing on the eve of T4 and spreading their nasty germs- in the pictures most seemed to be 20 somethings, probably stuck in flat shares for months on end and the parents has told them to get on a train ASAP and come home.
In my part of London, all my friends were here for Christmas, not mixing and the streets are dead. All anyone is doing is going for heat another bloody family walk and going to the supermarket. No different from most of the country.
Never understand the anti London vitriol. Lots of us weren’t born her and have have parents, family, friends all over the gin try and the world. We don’t think we’re better than anyone else and can completely see the pros and cons of other places to live.
And yes, my mother also thinks that the London streets are awash with covid and that we should t be stepping out of the door! But she also loves coming to visit as like many people she lived in London for a few years before moving to greener pastures.

@trickyparking I agree. I literally know no one who tried to “escape”. Think it was people just going home.

So many typos in my post!

Ah it's the same every time a city gets hits with a wave of infections. Seems to happen to every area at some stage.

YANBU! None of it seemed to be about restrictions, it was people talking as if we all spend our lives choking at the side of busy roads, paying a billion pounds to live in cramped slums. So weird!

Yesterday in London..

I think you are being a bit sensitive. After decades of preference, the north of England being ignored by politicians, I cannot blame anyone for such sentiments, even if misplaced.

I live in Greater London incidentally.

I agree with you OP.

Apparently, its all cool to hate on Londoners yet if you dare mention anything you dislike about up north you get flamed to death.

Hypocrisy at its finest!

I’m not bothered by it to be honest and I do understand that London probably does get a better deal but i think it’s all irrelevant with covid.
Having said that when I visit friends in Manchester, Leeds etc there seems to be no shortage of building work, money being spent etc. The country as a whole is too unequal and I think North v South simplifies it far too much.
Anyway- it’s 2021- let’s hope things get better for everyone..

I’m in zone 1 and have had friends close to tears about me being ‘trapped’ here (i understand the friend who lives in tier 1 the Scillies - they can see the mainland on a clear day and say it freaks them out a bit thinking of what’s going on).

A lot of the recent bad feeling has been caused by the whole tier 4 primary issue which partly looked like london was being prioritised forgetting the madness of for the first time ever boroughs being split with no evidence etc.
If I were a tier 4 anywhere else I’d be hopping mad at the government fir failing to explain anything about why the tiers have been slimy - I mean failed to produce any of the data or criteria or cut off points so that we could start to understand why other in tier 4 are being treated differently.
Don’t trust this government as far as I could throw them.

Split not slimy. There is not a ‘slimy’ tier also far as I am aware 🤣

We had it too though ,I'm in Bolton and at one point we had the highest rates of infection for the whole of the UK and had extra ,extra restrictions ,to be fair I did see s lot of people not following the rules which was incredibly frustrating,however many did but there were loads of threads asking why the north west was so badly hit ,were we all just thick Northerners who couldn't understand the rules .

@MuseumGardens

Not seen the threads but there's 9 million Londoners in Greater London of all different nationalities. It's always a bit brainless to try and group them all together and stereotype them, but people love to stereotype and scapegoat.

Especially on Mumsnet!

Where as my (and most Londoners I know) opinion of areas in the North is "seems nice"

I’m a northerner in london, been here 20 years. Many, many comments about “thick northerners”, country bumpkins, sheep shaggers, northerners are racist, all voted for brexit and are why we are in this mess. London being the only place you’d want to live as nowhere else has job opportunities, public transport etc.

Have to say many londoners I know have been carrying on as normal. “Bubbles” seem to be interpreted as seeing one family at a time. So someone can see their elderly parents, boyfriend, brothers family etc as long as they see them separately.

One friend’s dc is at uni in one area, christmas with own family in london, and has spent ny with a flatmate and her family in another tier 4 area.

Obviously this is not restricted to londoners, but I think that they have been in such a low tier for so long many are in the mindset that they aren’t a risk to other higher tier areas. That and many have family or second homes elsewhere in the uk, so “staying at home” includes visiting their holiday home, or their parents...

Media coverage of crowded areas like Borough Market are bound to prompt some comments about stupid people not social distancing, just as they have in Birmingham or Liverpool. And it may or may not be fair.

But a TV crew is hardly like to rock up to Goldfinch Bottom, West Berkshire and film three residents chatting over a gate (but within 2m of each other) which is the local equivalent. I don't think it's a dislike of Londoners, more people reacting to what the media choose to show them.

People are the same about Birmingham too. They drove past once and...

I took my dog for a walk yesterday and everybody was wishing happy new year to those they passed etc.

Bourbonic I took my dog for a walk yesterday too and I had the same thing happen. I live in London zone 3 (eg London postcode)

I'm a northerner btw, living in London so can see both sides.

@VashtaNerada No, not just from Londoners from Mumsnetters. Usually those from down south but not actually London. Did you forget what the OP's question was? I actually adore London, I adore it for its diversity and varied culture and many other things. I visit a lot, and when with my husband with a northern accent, he often gets stopped and asked if he's Scottish or Irish (he's neither!) but it's always friendly and not scathing, and he's just as likely to get asked it from a European as a born and bread Londoner, that is what I love about London, the mix of people is so rich.

It's stupid. Like all the threads on here a few months ago about how rates were high in greater Manchester because people in Salford were not wearing masks on the tram, or the thread that was basically "I've moved to "The Midlands" and it's grim as fuck", or the one about the Cornish being better at socially distancing. Our country is so tiny and people move around all the time, why would anyone living in one particular place basically be a different species to you?

Tbf though, it's maybe a bit rich to be all "poor London me" when politics is skewed towards you, you receive far more money per head than anywhere else, the original lockdown was introduced and relaxed according to you and other areas of the country with high rates have been blamed for months for breaking the rules, despite no actual evidence that people there are more likely to break the rules. Doesn't feel great does it?

Sorry this thread is making me laugh, it’s all a bit “won’t somebody think of the poor Londoners.”