To be a bit dismayed at the anti London sentiment I keep seeing here

[Tier4billion]

Not sure if it just happens to the threads I’m on, or if I’m being a bit sensitive - but reading on here at the moment you’d assume that the streets of London are something akin to scenes from 28 days later, and all of us are out throwing parties.

Very well said @ThelmaNotLouise.

I am joking btw. It's the papers that do this. I think it's to create the north and south divide.

I have no problems with Londoners or London everyone is trying there best. In fact I have so much sympathy for all the families trapped indoors in small flats with children.

When I think of London I think of museums, theatres, the ROH and Sadlers Wells, fruit & veg markets next to antiques on Portobello Road, bagels from Brick Lane at 03.00, skate boarders on the South Bank, people queuing for coffee outside Monmouth Coffee.. Neals Yard cheese.. Waterstones at Piccadilly with the 5th Floor bar and the food hall at Fortnums at Christmas. The creaky stairs at Liberty. The dog walker in Green Park. The water fountain in Waterloo that tells you how many plastic bottles you’ve saved, reading the Metro or Time Out on the tube, Sidecars that cost £10 (but you only need 2) 10 different nationalities of food stalls on Lower Marsh ... (so many food related memories. 😂). My friends... I think of my friends and I miss them. You think of county lines if you like but I’m holding onto the good stuff.

@Divebar

When I think of London I think of museums, theatres, the ROH and Sadlers Wells, fruit & veg markets next to antiques on Portobello Road, bagels from Brick Lane at 03.00, skate boarders on the South Bank, people queuing for coffee outside Monmouth Coffee.. Neals Yard cheese.. Waterstones at Piccadilly with the 5th Floor bar and the food hall at Fortnums at Christmas. The creaky stairs at Liberty. The dog walker in Green Park. The water fountain in Waterloo that tells you how many plastic bottles you’ve saved, reading the Metro or Time Out on the tube, Sidecars that cost £10 (but you only need 2) 10 different nationalities of food stalls on Lower Marsh ... (so many food related memories. 😂). My friends... I think of my friends and I miss them. You think of county lines if you like but I’m holding onto the good stuff.

This makes me miss London and I live here! I'm six Tube stops away but I haven't been into the centre since July and that was a one-off. I'm not alone either – most Londoners I know have stayed strictly within their neighbourhoods.

Just wondering where do Londoners tend to holiday abroad?

@Christmasfairy2020

When I think london I think drugs, county lines, stabbings and crime

Whereas I moved from North London to the NW and was horrified at the levels of crime, dealing and racism.

Is that a trick question? Surely we holiday in various places according to our tastes like any other human being??

@Christmasfairy2020 same places as the rest of the UK residents?

It was exactly the same when Liverpool was the first to be out into tier 3. There were even people saying that our local council should foot the bill because we were clearly allowing the virus to spread etc. But the nature of the virus makes it unpredictable and hard to contain. It's not people's fault (it might be the government's fault in the way it is handled!!)

London is DIVERSE. You can't put people into a box.

@Christmasfairy2020

Just wondering where do Londoners tend to holiday abroad?

To all the same places everyone else holidays at, I imagine – or not at all. Some of the kids in my DC's north London primary class had never left London, let alone been on a day trip to the seaside.

I don't hate anywhere-certainly not the people in it. Why would I-It would be completely brainless

Born and bred Londoner, I now live in Dorset (which I don’t particularly enjoy but that’s another story) i have been genuinely shocked at how people perceive Londoners! I was talking to a neighbour a few days ago about a Badger set in the woods behind our homes, I said how amazing it was plus be to see him, the neighbour ( a local) started ranting about how the person living closest to the set kept filling it in and complaining about the badger ...l followed by well “he is a Londoner so what do you expect? They are all idiots”. ... not my first or probably the last comment like that I’ll hear

I've lived in London for over 20 years and there is much to dislike about it. The West Midlands branch of my family hate coming down, because they think crime is too high (it is) it's dirty (yup) and over-stimulating (yes, there is too much to do here and more that you've never heard of ). But everyone likes the Tube!

I count myself as a left-.leaning liberal but I loathe Sadiq Khan (his arrogance makes me cringe). He thinks himself President of the South East. Like a wart, he'll be a bugger to get rid of.

I like living here because of the culture, because of the easy access to so much to do, because the hospitals are very good and it's given me a well paid job. But I don't plan to stay because it's so fucking expensive. I aim to return to the county of my birth and turn my crappy little dwelling into a decent house. Maybe breathe some decent air. Learn to drive, even .

London is infuriating and rather marvellous at the same time.

I think London does get better treatment sometimes than other places. But we do collectively contribute more so maybe it’s fair. One small example my London street has been resurfaced twice in 10 years unnecessarily the second time. My mother in law lives in the midlands , pot holes everywhere so much so I am shocked at the state of her local roads. She says last time road was resurfaced was 20 years ago. Bin collection is still weekly for us, she is fortnight now. I do think it’s to do with numbers of people though, we have more people paying their council tax to keep services high. I would think where my mother in law lives there are a lot of people on council tax benefit

@Christmasfairy2020

Just wondering where do Londoners tend to holiday abroad?

Tends to be abroad for us, Europe mainly, because of the choice of airports nearby, which is why we are a Remainer city. City breaks were so easy before Covid...

@Christmasfairy2020

When I think london I think drugs, county lines, stabbings and crime

Have you ever actually been to London?

It’s down to the new variant not behaviour.

Old variant is still reducing whilst new speeds up. Would be the same anywhere else.

Northerner here. I LOVE London! And most londoners I've met have been kind and friendly

It probably because Londoners have got Big Ben, the Pickled Onion building, London Bridge and everything and it's just not fair.

...AND the Queen

Feel exactly the same here Gone about the north. I live here now and I love it. What I've found is there are lovely people and there are dicks no matter where you are---- (in the world (shock :).

As is obvious on this thread.

For all your sensitivity. The amount of flack that Northerners get on Mumsnet on a daily basis far exceeds any that Londoners are receiving now.

There's the threads' having to move North do they have proper shops' 'relocating do they have public schools?' 'Having to move with work what will I wear to fit in with their pauper style' and 'I'm worried I won't understand word they say'

Ok I made those up but they are along similar lines!

I love London, as a place to visit, but this country is so biased in favour of London and the SE that it’s irritating for the rest of us. The realisation of this and eventual levelling out might be one small positive to come from the pandemic.

I used to travel to Yorkshire a lot with work and my London accent always seemed to be a trigger for a minority of folk to start engaging in the oh so funny anti Londoner banter. I ignored it for the best part but it just seemed odd and date I say a bit insecure to me.

but I live fairly rurally and there just isn't anywhere that people are in such close proximity as you see in pictures of the streets of London

@Squashpocket but how so that different to any other city? Surely any city is different to your rural area?