To be a bit dismayed at the anti London sentiment I keep seeing here

[Tier4billion]

Not sure if it just happens to the threads I’m on, or if I’m being a bit sensitive - but reading on here at the moment you’d assume that the streets of London are something akin to scenes from 28 days later, and all of us are out throwing parties.

I haven't picked up on any anti-London sentiment. I did notice some posters complaining when London remained in tier 2 when rates were higher than tier 3 areas. The anti-London sentiment isn't about the people in London per se, rather it is about the perceived unfairness of being in a lower tier than they should have been. I do believe London was treated more fabourably.

As for throwing parties, the press reported that the police were called out last night to deal with parties in London, Manchester, Birmingham and Essex.

I think you may be being a little over-sensitive.

It's not about the people. It's about the politics. The resentment has been building for a while. London centric politics are obviously divisive! And not just during a pandemic. HS2 is another example.

Le Monde were reporting about French parties too. One with 2500 attendees

I was talking to my brother earlier (who lives in Worcestershire) and he said it was down to 'the Londoners' travelling out of the capital and spreading covid in areas previously in lower tiers that the rates had gone up...

@Calmandmeasured1 depends on whether you see staying in tier 2 as a benefit.

Slagging off London is seen as fair game I think. I’m from the Midlands and I can remember feel aggrieved that so much media was London centric. When you actually live in London you realise people are just living their lives. No one I know here has ever stood and complained about Northern cities in the way I complained with my friend about London or southerners. No one here gives a shit about what anyone else is doing really. I also think it was a bit rich to complain about Londoners ( people in London not necessarily Londoners ) travelling north before Christmas lockdown when Cornwall was so full at October with people from Manchester & Liverpool when they were Tier 3. That really was the pot calling the kettle black.

It’s completely justifiable to complain about London-centric politics, and lots of us Londoners are aware that we sometimes get special treatment that isn’t okay (although occasionally it’s because we have a Labour mayor and we did vote for him so maybe we deserve nice things sometimes!!). But I know what the OP means. There’s a horrible thread where some posters are saying they wouldn’t accept critically ill Londoners in their local hospitals and they sound positively murderous!

@movingonup20

Well at least 5 London based families turned up into our development on the night (very late) London was put into tier 4. They are just the ones I know about. We had no active cases now there's 10. Might be nothing to do with Londoners but you can see why there's resentment. And I'm an ex Londoner!

Was it Rishi Sunak? He scarped off luckily just before the announcement.

I went to university in Yorkshire and was quite upset hearing people say that Londoners are rude, nasty people (completely oblivious to the irony of being fucking rude and nasty themselves). It was a tiny minority who spoke like that (and not all from Yorkshire) but it’s stayed with me how hurt I felt.

I'm a Londoner. I genuinely don't understand it. Where does the resentment come from? Do other areas perceive that Londoners are just living a better life no matter what their situation? I love living here but it's a trade off. I live in a small flat with my children, no outdoor space and my income doesn't go nearly as far as it would in many other places. There's so many working class people here - I'm one of them - and people just getting by, same as anywhere else. I'll move out in a few years but can't till my children finish school as they're in really good schools. My concerns and choices seem the same as most people, they're no different because I am living in the capital 🤷🏼‍♀️

@VashtaNerada totally off topic but your username just made me smile as I’m literally watching the library episode now.

I'm in Yorkshire, and the police were breaking up parties here as well.

I think you may be being a little over-sensitive.

You've missed the threads discussing it then because there's been a few and they've got really heated at times with real resentment.

@VashtaNerada

I went to university in Yorkshire and was quite upset hearing people say that Londoners are rude, nasty people (completely oblivious to the irony of being fucking rude and nasty themselves). It was a tiny minority who spoke like that (and not all from Yorkshire) but it’s stayed with me how hurt I felt.

I had exactly the same experience. Went to uni in the midlands and had constant abuse from the locals and other students from the north. I’ve married 2 northerners and every time I visited their home towns it was a barrage of rude and offensive things and piss taking over my accent. And also telling me how dirty and smelly London is and how much nicer their town was. They were constantly saying how rude and superior Londoners were too. They didn’t see the hypocrisy in this after being rude and superior to me.

Quite the opposite was experienced by my northern friends and partners when they visited me in London and they commented on how welcoming and friendly London was. Most of them decided to settle there much to the disgust of the families and friends who blamed me in some way. A massive massive chip on their shoulders which clouds a lot of thinking sadly.

I don’t get it either. I live here because I was born here, all my family are here etc. I could live in a far larger house, with much more disposable income if I were elsewhere.

@Tier4billion

Calmandmeasured1 depends on whether you see staying in tier 2 as a benefit.
Fair point.

@HmmSureJan I think its like when kids at school think one child is being favoured over the rest of the class, they blame the child rather than the teacher even though the child isn't at fault. Iyswim.

@Tier4billion people very rarely get the reference I like that it could easily be a glamorous woman’s name as much as a flesh eating horde!

London is also associated with “ poshness” which is also fair game as far as criticism on MN is concerned. God forbid you drive an Evoque... you’ll be torn to shreds.

@Tier4billion

Not sure if it just happens to the threads I’m on, or if I’m being a bit sensitive - but reading on here at the moment you’d assume that the streets of London are something akin to scenes from 28 days later, and all of us are out throwing parties.

Perhaps it is because that is how it is currently been portrayed by the media.

@VashtaNerada it does make for a pretty name

Well at least 5 London based families turned up into our development on the night (very late) London was put into tier 4. They are just the ones I know about. We had no active cases now there's 10. Might be nothing to do with Londoners but you can see why there's resentment. And I'm an ex Londoner
Yes I can see why there's resentment at those people who turned up. Silly to blame Londoners as a whole though. You never know, you might get people in other regions who behave selfishly too.

@MrsKoala really sad to hear that is how some Northerners were treating you. I am a Northerner and wouldn't dream of speaking to a Southerner/Londoner - or anyone - that way (trust me, the Yorkshire town I live in has very very few southerners; your accent would stick out like a sore thumb ). If anything I like to chat to different folk about where they are from.

@Divebar yep think that’s part of it. How quickly people forget things like Grenfell - not sure there are too many of the ex residents running off to second homes etc.