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Would you answer a quick question to help dd with her sociology course please?

106 replies

UserID · 31/12/2020 17:28

It’s following on from the Train dilemma where you are asked would you pull a lever, leading to one death but saving five?

DD’s question is basically would you pull the leaver to save the 5 strangers if the one person on their own is a close family member such as your child or parent.

I’ve put it in aibu for the voting.

Yanbu: I would save my close family member rather than the five strangers

Yabu: I would save the five strangers rather than the close family member.

OP posts:
OverTheRainbow88 · 31/12/2020 18:30

It seems quite clear cut at first but as you start to throw in the variables it becomes a really difficult dilemma so solve.

Yes like the one you didn’t save could have been about to cure cancer and the 5 you saved children murderers

greenlynx · 31/12/2020 18:31

I would always save my DD over everyone and everything, than DH has a priority just because I love him, it’s conscious act of love. Other family members are just happened to be my family members, I haven’t got a say in it if it makes sense. Also most of them are adults and could look after themselves, only one is a child who has their own parents and 2 sets of grandparents look out for them.

And I agree with TheJeatingFive, I’m also suspicious towards people who tend to sacrifice their children for greater good or to save strangers.

SilverBirchWithout · 31/12/2020 18:32

I think these hypothetical scenarios have limited value. They tell us only how we would like to behave rather than how we would actually behave.
The reality is in a crisis we don’t often have time to make considered decisions and can’t predict what the outcome of our instant actions will be.
Faced with a gunman in a doorway, no doubt tackling him to the ground may save more lives, maybe your own, and your family members. But our latent protective instinct would be to run with our child as the gunman opens fire on the others.
This is at the core of survivor‘s guilt, we believe that maybe we should have done more to help others.
From a sociological perspective the group would benefit with everyone working together, from a psychological perspective protecting ourselves and those most dearest to us is the most likely and primary choice. This is very apparent in our reaction to Covid restrictions, we all know protecting the NHS and the most vulnerable is best for our society, but we don’t want people we care about to pay the price (our children’s education, a family member’s job).

Daisychainsandglitter · 31/12/2020 18:34

Definitely would save close family member.

Livpool · 31/12/2020 18:37

Family member

Bourbonbiccy · 31/12/2020 18:37

The paper is really interesting.

I would instinctively save my family member regardless of anything. I'm not sure how that stands me as an individual, but it's the truth Shock

MsChatterbox · 31/12/2020 18:38

If it's my child I would choose them over anyone 😬

youkiddingme · 31/12/2020 18:41

I think most people would instinctively save their loved ones first. Then anyone else they could if possible. And feel horrendously guilty later. Or freeze in panic and feel even worse.

Magissa · 31/12/2020 18:42

Family member

Disfordarkchocolate · 31/12/2020 18:44

I'd panic. Good in an emergency that needs planning, rabbit in the headlights for stuff like this.

Mammyloveswine · 31/12/2020 18:45

I would save my child without a second of hesitation!

Morgan12 · 31/12/2020 19:00

Definitely my family member. If it was my child I'd not even feel bad about it tbh. I'd let every single person I've ever known die to save them.

UserID · 31/12/2020 19:05

Thank you all for the votes and the comments. Dd and I really appreciate it. Even though it’s dd’s course I find it so fascinating. It’s really interesting reading everyone’s thoughts.

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greenlynx · 31/12/2020 19:20

OP, I wonder what option your DD would choose? Wink

HibernatingTill2030 · 31/12/2020 19:21

I think 100% would save their child over any number of strangers, that is right and natural.
For example, if there was a fire in a shop- you and your child can escape right now, but if you stop to tell people the way out, it would slow you down and mean you and your child couldn't escape- even if a hundred others could if. you stayed to direct them out- I would expect the majority to say they would take their child and run.

winterchills · 31/12/2020 19:21

Yep family member for me

TwelveDogsOfChristmas · 31/12/2020 19:25

Family member

lljkk · 31/12/2020 19:27

I think I'd save my loved one. Awful choice which would torture me forever -- I don't think I'd feel at all tortured if all were strangers.

You'd just be tortured trying to figure out if you could have found another solution. In real life, you always think there must have been another possible choice to save all.

I seem to have turned voting off.

jcyclops · 31/12/2020 19:42

The best solution to this comes from a two-year-old:

D4rwin · 31/12/2020 19:46

Just a numbers game to me. I'd rather be killed myself. But there's a lot that obviously harbour murderous tendencies / can't think of doing anything other than instructed.

littlealexhorne · 31/12/2020 19:48

This has reminded me of how much I miss studying sociology, I did it for A Level and loved it

OverTheRainbow88 · 31/12/2020 19:50

I’m surprised this is in sociology course, I teach A level ethics and we study this in detail, a lot of my students also study a level sociology and have never mentioned knowing anything about it 😂.

JinglesWish · 31/12/2020 19:51

I’d save a DC over any and all others, including myself. Other relatives are far less importance, so it would be an internal debate

BlackForestCake · 31/12/2020 19:53

How is this sociology?

Crankley · 31/12/2020 19:53

I voted to save my family member and that decision would be irrespective of age or profession of the other five.