To say this even though I will get flamed for it?

[Friendswithwhenifits]

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. However, I am asthmatic. Numerous studies have shown a link between bleach and lung diseases. Thanks to a Christmas Eve bleach the house session I am now on Day 3 of difficulties in breathing.

You are sensible adults, if you feel ill- see a doctor. However, if I help anyone to prevent harming their lungs by switching to gentler cleaning fluids then it will be worth getting my arse handed to me.

Before you buy the bleach ask yourself if a different product might be healthier for you and your family. In these dangerous times, any little change might make a difference.

You shouldn't use bleach on mould. I thought everyone knew that??

@dementedma

I would love to see bleach banned, along with "disposable" wipes. No need for either.

We have wipes, my partner has a physical disability, he can’t use sprays and he can’t wring out clothes so a cloth and some soap would make a big sloppy mess.

Is Milton the same as bleach though?

@Julesni77

Is Milton the same as bleach though?

They're Troclosene Sodium. Bleach is Sodium hypochlorite.

Have never and would never use bleach
Obviously toxic surely ?

I'm prone to issues with bleach I just tend to use it sparingly and not often. Other products can do similar.

Thing is we are walking microbiomes and viromes.

Around 40% of your body is human cells, the rest is bacteria, viruses, fungi and archaea. We're more microbe than human.

The idea that bacteria are an external threat and all need to be killed is wrong-headed.

@TatianaBis - yes!!! The long term harm from living in a fig of zoflora and bleach is so much worse than having some harmless bacteria on your kitchen floor. Soap is best for cleaning.

On the same sort of topic, avoid Buster drain unblocker. I usually use Mr Muscle, but Sainsbury's only had this Buster stuff. It's horrific, started fizzing and let off a poisonous cloud of smoke immediately. It was supposed to be left for twenty minutes, but got flushed after a couple or we would have all been gassed.

@Friendswithwhenifits

It was mould removal in the bathroom. I know multiple people-including close family members who are convinced that bleach kills all germs and is the only “proper” way to clean. Hence this post.

Was it cilit bang? Its amazing stuff but OMG it makes your eyes nip

@HelloDulling

I only ever bleach my loo (and my hair).

This!

The smell gives me the boak, no way could I have my whole house smelling like that!

Mrs Hinch and her daft followers have a lot to answer to

I am a doctor.

I've never bought or used bleach! I wouldn't know for what purpose!

I'm a bit of a bleach convert because we get mould in some places on the walls/shower -- bleach spray is the biz to get rid of it. Don't use bleach otherwise.

in fact, I will ask, what gets rid of orange mould on tiles or black mould on window sill walls as well as bleach? I'm open to other ideas.

@lljkk

in fact, I will ask, what gets rid of orange mould on tiles or black mould on window sill walls as well as bleach? I'm open to other ideas.

Apparently cillit bang mould remover, I keep seeing it advertised. Don't know what's in it, probably bleach

[quote Doggybiccys]@AnnabelDickson - I grew up with my mum bleaching the cups every week! The first few cups of tea after always tasted gross - days before dishwashers to cups washed in sink in luke warm water.[/quote]
I bleach my mugs but I rinse them within an inch of their lives afterwards. Not a scraping of bleach left on them

This is widely known.

Milton is sodium hypochlorite and sodium chloride, so bleach and salt.
It’s the release of cations and anions when these two chemicals are diluted in water that produce the bacteriocidal and viricidal effect. Strong bleach is actually far less effective than dilute bleach.
It’s modified bleach and is used widely in healthcare for that reason.

To the poster who suggested alcohol as a cleaner, unfortunately it is a very poor surface disinfectant and if used repeatedly on most plastics it causes cracking and discolouration creating more nooks and crannies for bacteria to lurk.
All drinking water is chlorinated so cleaning the loo once a week with mild bleach solution is not really an environmental issue, tipping a bottle down twice a day is more of a problem. Never really understood why people pour bleach down the drain, manual cleaning is far more effective and cheaper.
I tend to empty a kettle of boiling water down the kitchen sink to kill any gremlins, and I’ve trained the family to use the bog brush to clean the loo after use. I do soak the brush in the loo with dilute bleach once a week though, more to disinfect the brush rather than the loo.

Finally avoid spray bottles, it’s such a waste of product and when it hits the dirty surface it picks up dirt and bounces straight back at you. Spray onto a cloth then use the cloth to clean.

I occasionally use bleach but always diluted and in a ventilated room. If anyone had asthma I were wouldn’t. It’s why we can’t use it in schools.

I don't use bleach at all - not advised when not on mains drainage and I have my own bio tank for waste water. Since moving here 5 years ago and having to abandon bleach, I have been surprised that gentler cleaning products are just as effective

I use bleach sparingly. A bottle lasts around 3-4 months. I don't think that's harmful.

This is so utterly obvious, it's almost like telling people not to breathe in water. I genuinely despair.

I rarely use the stuff other than a quick squirt down plugholes every week or two and a very occasional chopping board soak.

And I always make sure that there's a window open. You don't want to be breathing in bleach fumes. You certainly don't want it to convert to hydrochloric acid in your lungs.

i never used blerach until the covid crisis. Early on in the pandemic I read some research from JohnHopkins University in the US about how the virus can be transmitted on objects. It recommended wiping shopping and anything coming into the house, with a solution of 1 part bleach to 9 parts water, which I still do. It is a fag to do but I feel happier knowing there is no virus on things in the house. I did not know there are any issues with bleach. I put it on a jaycloth to wipe things over with, and it does make my hands smell strongly of bleach until I wash it off afterwards. Is it really harmful? Thanbks OP for the alert if there is a problem with it.

Bleach goes down the loo. What else would you use it for? Not general cleaning surely?