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To think there's no way in hell this could ever be remade

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GoldfishParade · 30/12/2020 08:08

It's been 23 years since Titanic 😱 It was all so perfect... Leo (my first crush), Kate Winslet (who was amazing in this). The two actors were perfectly chosen... The theme music... The pace...

Was watching it the other day and thought it had barely aged. Still made me cry. Love this scene here with the boat being hoisted down!

AIBU to think nobody would ever be crazy enough to ever try and remake this film?

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ErrolTheDragon · 30/12/2020 12:08

@ArmsClary

Possibly. I also wonder what would've been worse - freezing cold air or ice cold water. I would assume water, given that Rose survived, but I'm sure someone more scientifically minded will be able to explain Grin
Water. Much higher heat conductivity. Think about it - we use air bubbles as an insulator.
LightDrizzle · 30/12/2020 12:11

It’s awful. Heavy handed and clunking.

It was the first thing I saw with LDC In it and led to me dismissing him for years until I unwittingly caught most of What’s Eating Gilbert Grape on TV and realised he could act. He’s good in other things too and I’ve completely revised my opinion of him as an actor.
The French & Saunders pisstake was spot on.

iklboo · 30/12/2020 12:12

The main song was a blot on Celine Dion's career, a pity as she has a fine singing voice.

'I know that the hotdogs go on'

EleanorRigbyWasReal · 30/12/2020 12:15

@GoldfishParade exactly! What a mare she was. And all that “I’ll never let go” 🤦‍♀️

She let go.

BunnyBoilerRhian · 30/12/2020 12:17

This is a dreadful film in my opinion.
Really corny l, ham actingvin places and just so cringe. Its one of those film for me that if km sleeping on the sofa and it comes on, I wake up to search for the remote to turn it off.
It's in my top ten of painful films to watch.

horizontilting · 30/12/2020 12:40

Video of original ending.

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GoldfishParade · 30/12/2020 12:51

@horizontilting
That is SO fucking bad. Her dropping the necklace overboard is a total non issue, they have all that equipment and now know the precise radius to search.

That guy who plays the scientist is SO uncharismatic

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PhoebeSnow · 30/12/2020 13:23

@StCharlotte

PhoebeSnow

This one although not in that colour and I don't think that exact dress was actually in the film.

StCharlotte that’s beautiful
Jollibeezus · 30/12/2020 13:28

Why would it have aged as a film it’s set in 1912? Of course it’s not dated it was set in the past Confused

Shite film though. I was in my teens when it came out and just never understood the hype, didnt find Leo attractive till Catch Me If You Can. I really hope they don’t bother remaking Titanic, what a waste of money that would be!

SemperIdem · 30/12/2020 13:36

@Jollibeezus a lot of older films have aged badly, despite themselves being set in the past. The American Western epics for example, are cringeworthy at best now, outright racist at worst.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/12/2020 13:40

Why would it have aged as a film it’s set in 1912? Of course it’s not dated it was set in the past

Most 'historical' films reflect more on the era in which they were made than on the one they are supposed to represent. The same goes for most films set in the future.

TaraR2020 · 30/12/2020 13:40

Damn. I'm going to have to watch it again now.

littlepattilou · 30/12/2020 13:57

@GoldfishParade I agree. The 1990s film Titanic is wonderful. And I also love Leo AND Kate.

The film seems to generate hate from some though. Like real vitriol and scorn. Not sure why. It's like many people loved it 23 years ago, and were huge fans of Leo, and are now too embarrassed to admit it, so they just say 'nah it's shit...' When they probably secretly love it still. AND Leo too. Grin There are still many who have a lot of fondness and love for it, and admit to it!

My theory on the door bit at the end (when Rose was on it but not Jack,) is that he helped her onto the door, and then just clung on to the edge himself, while they waited for help. They both underestimated how cold the water was (and how damaging...) So whilst Rose nodded off into a cold-induced trance/half sleep, Jack froze to death.

Just my theory, but yeah I do adore this film. Smile

Oh and yep, do NOT remake it EVERRRR! Shock

iklboo · 30/12/2020 14:23

Always hated the film
Never liked Leonardo Di Caprio (he may be a lovely chap but does nothing for me)
No embarrassment here Grin

Ach, it's good we all like different things. Unless things start to get nasty & goady.

horizontilting · 30/12/2020 14:53

[quote GoldfishParade]@horizontilting
That is SO fucking bad. Her dropping the necklace overboard is a total non issue, they have all that equipment and now know the precise radius to search.

That guy who plays the scientist is SO uncharismatic[/quote]
I know, it made me feel better about the actual film - it could have been so much worse if that's the way they were originally going to go! Grin

Livingtothefull · 30/12/2020 15:37

I really found so much reprehensible about the thing, for many of the reasons people have mentioned.

This was a real life tragedy in which around 1500 people died - real people with names, there are exhaustive passenger and staff lists which also confirm exactly who was 'saved' and who 'lost'. And yet in this film we are expected to care about these 2 fictitious people, and regard the real 1500 as a mere backcloth to their 'love story'.

In the same vein, the film traduces real people - such as Murdoch who is portrayed as shooting someone on deck. There is no evidence of any kind that this happened irl - all we know is that Murdoch was in charge of filling the lifeboats on one side of the ship, and that he did not survive. To me the reality of Murdoch (and other crew members) working to save passengers' lives - knowing they themselves would probably not survive - is as good a definition of heroism as any I can think of. So he did not deserve to be traduced like that.

The worst of all is the way the survivors are portrayed. We know they are disproportionately rich and therefore 'bad'; what really set my teeth on edge was when old Rose described the survivors in the lifeboats as 'waiting for dawn, waiting for absolution which never came'. As if they are supposed to be perpetually guilty about surviving?

Rose, however, unlike them, is supposedly a 'good survivor' because she was plucked from the water rather than the comfort of a lifeboat; so unlike them (ie all the real life survivors) it is fine for her to go on to have a good life without guilt. Even though earlier in the film, she is shown climbing out of a lifeboat while it is being lowered; so too late for anyone else to take her place in the lifeboat and thus be saved.

LetsGoFlyAKiteee · 30/12/2020 15:39

If you think this is bad there's a cartoon version where no one died cause a octopus held the ship together and whales saved everyone..

iklboo · 30/12/2020 16:07

@LetsGoFlyAKiteee - WTA&UF?! Shock

StCharlotte · 30/12/2020 16:14

@ErrolTheDragon

Why would it have aged as a film it’s set in 1912? Of course it’s not dated it was set in the past

Most 'historical' films reflect more on the era in which they were made than on the one they are supposed to represent. The same goes for most films set in the future.

Less so these days. The 60s were the worst for that - all those medieval queens with winged eyeliner and crimson lips Grin
StarFriend · 30/12/2020 16:15

Derailing the thread here, but to me the only film that should never be remade (and I think every film company must feel the same otherwise it'd have been done by now) is Gone with the Wind!

kwiksavenofrillsusername · 30/12/2020 16:22

@StarFriend

Derailing the thread here, but to me the only film that should never be remade (and I think every film company must feel the same otherwise it'd have been done by now) is Gone with the Wind!
I don't think anyone would touch GWTW with a ten foot bargepole. They've cancelled screenings in the USA because of some of the racial stuff in the film. They did do a shitty TV movie sequel in the 90s that was bad enough.

Titanic is OK. I loved it as a teenager but it's a bit cringey now. I usually just wonder what brand of lipstick Kate Winslet is wearing, as it stays on even in freezing water.

Cam2020 · 30/12/2020 16:22

YABU because it's utter shite. Even at 16, I was bored out of my brain watching that poorly written, saccharine tosh at the cinema, while everyone else wept around me.

Butchyrestingface · 30/12/2020 16:33

How did Rose act badly?!

They are short of lifeboats by half. Dimwit takes up a seat that could have gone to someone else then jumps off whilst the lifeboat is midlaunch and cannot be stopped to allow someone else to replace her.

She then proceeds to hog a door that clearly had space for two people on it.

Had she not jumped off the lifeboat in the first place, Jack (or someone else) could have had said door all to himself and survived.

Leonardo Di Caprio, I'll grant you, was beatific in that movie. And I don't usually like blondes.

SantasBritchesSpelleas · 30/12/2020 16:38

My husband and I watch it interactively, yelling 'Rose!' and 'Jack' and 'man overboard' etc. at appropriate intervals.

You can only really do that with so-bad-it's-good films.

lilsquish · 30/12/2020 16:44

I love Titanic

and, OP i see you mentioning DiCaprio's other films- have you seen the Basketball Diaries? its fab, he's so good in it