Bordering Tiers!

[chubbycheeks26]

I live on a border, it's ridiculous - walk 5 minutes one way and it's tier 2, 5 minutes the other way and it's tier 4 🙄🤦‍♀️

I'm tempted to walk to the open pub 5 minutes to the right tomorrow AIBU

My brother is now in Tier 4, but when they were Tier 2, they could eithr walk 200yds to their local shop, which was over the border in Tier 4, or drive 25 minutes to their nearest Tier 2 town.

@Didyousaynutella that's laughable, you can only go to work in tier 2 and have to follow tier 3 rules whilst in tier 2

@Scarby9 ridiculous isn't it! 🤦‍♀️

To the people who voted I am unreasonable, can you tell me. My next door neighbour can go, so why can't I

I think where the divides come in are stupid. Surely that is going to cause more chaos.
Personally I think it would be easier to say this entire town etc is in tier 4 so everyone knows. Not have some of the street in tier 2 and the other half in tier 4

I'd go OP! Go get yourself a pint! (And a bite to eat of course)

My friends youngest child goes to the village primary ( tier 3) and her eldest is at the local secondary (tier 2). The GP surgery is in 3 and the pharmacist is in 2. The best part is the park....half of it is 3 and the other half is 2.....The authority responsible for the higher tier is threatening to close their part of it if we go to 4.....meaning the kids in the lower one can go on the swings but not on the slide that's 30 metres away. The whole thing's a farce.

@trappedsincesundaymorn oh for goodness sake, it's becoming stupid. No it IS stupid.

Ffs.

I'd be there right now🍷

If it's not done by council administrative areas, however blunt a tool that is, how do people suggest the boundary is drawn - between Mrs Scroggin's garden and the CoOp? It needs something that is quick to define as the suituation changes.

@Emmelina you actually can’t access most of the area without going through a tier 3 area. I was looking at the map and for someone to go to the closest supermarket they’d either need to cross into tier 2 and back into 3 (approx 2miles to the shop) or take something like a 12 mile detour to avoid a tier 2 area.

When it was same rules everywhere, people moaned it should be more nuanced with local restrictions where required

So, they introduced tiers. And now people moan about having different rules !

@Iwantacookie they are totally stupid!

@WalkingOnStarshine I've never been this tempted to 'break the law'

[quote chubbycheeks26]@trappedsincesundaymorn oh for goodness sake, it's becoming stupid. No it IS stupid.

Ffs.[/quote]
You're not wrong...especially when the football pitch and skate park span both tiers. How "they" are going to stop the football and the skaters crossing the tiers has yet to be decided. We are fully expecting a 20ft high steel fence to be erected overnight, given the batshit stance of the higher tier authority.

@lidoshuffle that's basically how it is drawn, my neighbour is in tier 2, I am in tier 4. It's ridiculous. Borders need to be drawn at actual towns or even better in the middle of nowhere where nobody sodding lives!

@notanothertakeaway I understand the tier system, however the borders are stupid and it also needs to be more localised for reasons such as borders, not to mention sticking the whole of Hampshire in tier 4 when most of it is quite low and miles away from other places in Hampshire.

@baffledcoconut another reason they are ridiculous!

It can be strange. A village not far from me was previously in tier 2 and tier 4. The shop and post office were in tier 2. One tiny village on a county border!

I live in Tier 3 (in an area with quite low rates) and teach in Tier 2 (in a town where the rates are twice as high as my town...) so yeah, I’m good enough to squash into small classrooms with 20+ tier 2 teenagers, but not to go into a pub or cafe down the road. Where most of them work.

The line always has to be drawn somewhere making it ridiculous for some people. I live in a Tier 2 English County which borders Wales. Some of the people living in the Welsh border villages have English postal addresses and shop and work in their nearest (English) town. In fact most of them never go to their nearest Welsh shopping town which is 15 miles away. Our nearest town is also on the border of a Tier 3 English County. So when I go shopping from my 68 cases per 100,000 village I am mixing with people from these tier 3 & Welsh rules governed people. I'm pretty sure some of them will be eating in our pubs and restaurants too.

I walk .3 of a mile over a field and am in Essex.

I walk half a mile through town and am in London. I can see the m25 from here and the Shard/Canary Wharf etc.

I think that is why we are all tier 4 because management of areas like this would have been ridiculous.

that's basically how it is drawn, my neighbour is in tier 2, I am in tier 4. It's ridiculous. Borders need to be drawn at actual towns or even better in the middle of nowhere where nobody sodding lives!

But how would they define the boundaries "in the middle of nowhere" if not by administrative boundaries? By longwinded picturesque descriptions (millions of times over the whole county)? OS map references? And when the siutation changes they'd need rewriting.

As I say, it's a blunt tool but the best we have.

@chubbycheeks26 it took them 4 months to bring masks in, it will take till the next pandemic to redraw county boundaries.

Borders have to go somewhere, and wherever they put them, there will be people whose nearest shop/pub/school will be in a different area.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if all the restrictions are increased soon, because infection rates are rising so fast now, but I think there would be a lot of resistance to another lockdown like the first one.

Areas that don't have high rates soon will otherwise. I think there'll be limited reopening of schools, too.

@chubbycheeks26 they haven't put the 'whole of Hampshire in tier 4'. The New Forest is in tier 3 (for the time being anyway!)