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Shr1881 · 28/12/2020 01:05

This situation is genuinely upsetting me quite a lot and I’m just hoping for some advice on how to let this wash over me. (Not really looking for advice on what I can actively do about it as I’ve been there and done that and absolutely nothing changes).

One of our next door neighbours is awful. We are all in detached houses but bizarrely the gardens are fairly narrow and so we are quite close together. They have two dogs and during the spring and summer months they let them in the garden for hours at a time to bark and bark and bark. It’s not even like the dogs are trying to get back in the house, because the people that live there are out in the garden with them at the same time, you can hear them winding the dogs up which of course makes them even worse. They have I think 3 or 4 kids who scream and scream when in the garden. I have no issue with listening to kids play and have fun but this screaming goes through you. It can be for most of the day when the weather is hot and sunny.

They are the kind of people who only have to have the slightest sniff of sun to be out in the garden chatting to each other, or on their phones. That in itself is of course not a problem but the volume they talk at is absolutely ridiculous, often it is so loud it sounds as if they are arguing with each other but “much” of the time it is just the way they talk, and the disgusting language it’s quite embarrassing to listen to sometimes. (And yes it is frequently in front of the kids as I’ve heard them out there at the same time). Well - I say “much” of the time they are not arguing - However I would say a couple of times a month they have a blazing row in the back garden for all to hear.

The vast majority of these problems calm down in the winter months when they are indoors. My mental health has deteriorated quite badly during the 7 years we’ve lived here, directly related to living next door to these people. It is as if as soon as the spring weather arrives it gets really bad and then I find myself counting down the days until autumn and winter because I know it’s going to calm down again.

They are most certainly not approachable types however the year before last I did finally find the courage inside me to approach them over the fence, I was literally shaking as I was talking to her, it had taken me a long time to pluck the courage up to do this. At that particular time the main issue was the dog barking driving us absolutely insane. DH and I work all kinds of weird and wonderful shift patterns and I tried to explain this to her and how it was disrupting us (One evening last July I very embarrassingly fell asleep at my desk at work!). I didn’t expect her to take me seriously and she kind of shrugged her shoulders and said “well we have a very up-and-down relationship and family life is crazy isn’t it” then she walked off. Something along those lines anyway. I didn’t say anything to her about the screaming from the kids because I didn’t know whether I was overreacting or not, but as it happened, the summer before last I had some friends to stay and they both commented on how noisy the kids were - One of the friends is a primary teacher and she said she had never heard anything like it before. So I guess it clarified for me that I am not overreacting lol.

DH and I are going to be putting the house on the market next year but of course with the virus and Brexit nobody knows when this will be or how long it will take to sell.

What I am really wanting are some techniques to be able to block all of this out. Literally all I want is to not be so miserable about it but I don’t know how!

I have spoken to our local environmental health department just for some advice and they told me to try and speak to the neighbours in a friendly manner first which I have done, The next step would be a formal complaint but I do not want to go down that road especially with selling the house because I would have to declare it and I can tell that our neighbours are the sort of people it would not be difficult to fall out with and I absolutely do not want to do that at all. So I am not going to be making a formal complaint.

My mental health in the spring and summer months has got to the stage where the GP has prescribed medication which I have yet to take, but before I go down that road I would like to know if there are any other coping techniques people can recommend until we move? I think that the very fact I am posting this over Christmas and already dreading the spring is a reflection of how much it affects my life.

OP posts:
AppleJane · 28/12/2020 12:52

Feel free to take this advice with a pinch of salt:

Rent your house out. Tell the tenants you'll give them a discount if they're extremely noisy and annoying. Wait for neighbours to sell up. Move back in.

WorrierorWarrior · 28/12/2020 12:52

I wonder why people should think that OP should move because of the bad conduct of their neighbours. The neighbours will continue probably and make the purchasers lives miserable. Why not address the problem rather than having people pushed out of their homes?
I speak as someone who left a house some years ago because of bad conduct from a neighbour

AppleJane · 28/12/2020 13:00

@WorrierorWarrior

I wonder why people should think that OP should move because of the bad conduct of their neighbours. The neighbours will continue probably and make the purchasers lives miserable. Why not address the problem rather than having people pushed out of their homes? I speak as someone who left a house some years ago because of bad conduct from a neighbour

Then why did you move?

It's a no win situation.

If you report they'll figure out who reported and hold a grudge.
If you talk nicely they'll pretend to address the problem and then hold a grudge. And start doing it again.
And then find new ways to be just as annoying while staying on the right side of the law. You can't make thoughtless people be considerate. You shouldn't have to move but there's no simple solution.

ohsuzannah · 28/12/2020 13:07

We had a neighbour with a dog that was outside night and day, barking continuously. It was waking my dd up at night when she had to get up early for work.
I bought a device from Amazon that emits a high pitched sound when the dog barks. I placed it on a post facing the dog ( it looks like a bird house)
To our delight it worked! The dog stopped barking so much and calmed down considerably.
Perhaps you could try something like that? Good luck!

ohsuzannah · 28/12/2020 13:08

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Yerroblemom1923 · 28/12/2020 13:09

Did you ask them to stop their dogs from barking and kids from screaming?? I certainly wouldn't let my child scream. And dogs usually bark for a reason and, with training, rusty can be nipped in the bud. I'm guessing the dogs need a few decent walks, the kids also, to burn off the energy!
In the meanwhile, yes,get your house sold and move to a quieter area!

Yerroblemom1923 · 28/12/2020 13:10

Rusty = that

AppleJane · 28/12/2020 13:13

And dogs usually bark for a reason and, with training, rusty can be nipped in the bud

Most problems can be nipped in the bud by responsible dog owners and parents. But in my experience problem neighbours don't nip in the bud, they reward bad behaviour with sweets and dog biscuits!!

HappySonHappyMum · 28/12/2020 13:20

I'd be buying one of them ultrasonic devices that only dogs and small children can hear and when it gets really bad I'd be turning it on. I'd also be turning it on when I have prospective purchasers visiting my house to buy it!

cherrypie790 · 28/12/2020 13:22

I don't think people appreciate the hell of noisy neighbours until you're living next to some.

We've lived in our home for 25 years. We've raised our children here, and it was future proof in terms of growing older. We've made it our dream home and loved living here - until the fuckers moved in 3 years ago over the road (small rural dead end). The noise is constant. If he's outside in the garden, he has loud music on. If he's in the garage, he has loud music on. Their 2 huge dogs bark from dawn to dusk. He's like Dom Joly yelling outside on his mobile. They are very heavy drinkers/party animals and have visitors 24/7 that since March, they now entertain in a massive outdoor gazebo they've built......... at the front of the fucking house.

We've now stupidly left it too late to even attempt to try and sell - the moment a potential buyer drives up the road, they'll see the party shack complete with disco lights and a disco sound system.

It's constant daily torture. We can't ever have any windows open, or use our outdoor space without their noise to accompany us. It's taken every ounce of joy away from living here. If you can OP, I'd move.... most sales are taking 4 to 5 months to go through anyway with the delays in conveyancing/land registry etc due to Covid.

WorrierorWarrior · 28/12/2020 13:22

@AppleJane You asked why I moved. I was very young and a single parent. The father was and still is around. I could not go out my house without my DF or child's dad coming to take me out my house and then take me back into my house. This was a 6feet tall man who was causing problems. Child's dad got to hear what it was all about and my Dad found of a relative of the man etc. It was a council house and I was offered a bigger house in a better area. The person who moved into the house I left was a single pensioner woman whose life was made miserable by the same man.
The man should have been dealt with by the police and the council. It was obvious he could frighten women but he was less frightening to two full grown men each protecting their daughters. I don't think the older woman had much in the way of relatives.
Two women one child made miserable by one man. Not right IMO

MatildaTheCat · 28/12/2020 13:27

Don’t wait! If you can’t cover the moving costs just add it to the mortgage and keep the costs as low as you can. Move mountains to get a sale before the spring.

Amijustagrump · 28/12/2020 13:27

We have neighbours like this, they were meant to move during the first lockdown (first week of April!) And couldn't, and then in September and it was stopped and now I'm praying they move in early 2021! The only positive is boots have amazing foam earplugs and she has a new boyfriend who dislikes loud music- we've had a joyous few weeks playing exceptionally loud music as revenge for a summer of hell!

AppleJane · 28/12/2020 13:36

@WorrierorWarrior yes that's exactly the sort of situation where there's no easy solution. And the older I've got the more convinced I am that doing things the 'right' way (ie talking to the council etc) gets you no-where and just a load more bother. I'm glad you got out of there!

thosetalesofunexpected · 28/12/2020 13:58

Hi Op
Sound counsel out noise headphones
Can buy them from the internet such as Amazon etc

thosetalesofunexpected · 28/12/2020 14:32

@CelestrialWarrior

Are you by any chance being described as a anti -social neighbour then??😕

(It would go a long way to,explain
why you have the attitude you do,
to Op plight.!!! 😕

PerveenMistry · 28/12/2020 15:37

@cherrypie790

I don't think people appreciate the hell of noisy neighbours until you're living next to some.

We've lived in our home for 25 years. We've raised our children here, and it was future proof in terms of growing older. We've made it our dream home and loved living here - until the fuckers moved in 3 years ago over the road (small rural dead end). The noise is constant. If he's outside in the garden, he has loud music on. If he's in the garage, he has loud music on. Their 2 huge dogs bark from dawn to dusk. He's like Dom Joly yelling outside on his mobile. They are very heavy drinkers/party animals and have visitors 24/7 that since March, they now entertain in a massive outdoor gazebo they've built......... at the front of the fucking house.

We've now stupidly left it too late to even attempt to try and sell - the moment a potential buyer drives up the road, they'll see the party shack complete with disco lights and a disco sound system.

It's constant daily torture. We can't ever have any windows open, or use our outdoor space without their noise to accompany us. It's taken every ounce of joy away from living here. If you can OP, I'd move.... most sales are taking 4 to 5 months to go through anyway with the delays in conveyancing/land registry etc due to Covid.

God, that sounds a nightmare. You have my sympathy!!

PerveenMistry · 28/12/2020 15:41

@AppleJane

Feel free to take this advice with a pinch of salt:

Rent your house out. Tell the tenants you'll give them a discount if they're extremely noisy and annoying. Wait for neighbours to sell up. Move back in.

I have seriously considered providing free lodgings to the most menacing, intimidating men I can find in exchange for them have a daily chastising word or two with the assholes next door about their kids and dogs.

My neighbor is disdainful of women but seems to be eager for approval from men judging by his interactions with other householders. Maybe two big scary guys would make an impression.

AppleJane · 28/12/2020 16:14

My neighbor is disdainful of women but seems to be eager for approval from men judging by his interactions with other householders. Maybe two big scary guys would make an impression.

This is so common! And scaring older people. My elderly relative's neighbour didn't realise I was visiting one day when he was trying to bully them. When I and my burly DP suddenly appeared and used some blue words he went pale and never bothered them again. His face was hilarious. Absolute bullies.

fairydust11 · 28/12/2020 16:26

Sorry about your situation. You mentioned you’ll put your house on the market next year. If that’s the case why not contact estate agents tomorrow for valuations this week, choose an agent, get photos & get your house up and listed next week? It’ll be a positive start to the new year, you’ll feel in control as you’ve started the ball rolling and you’ll feel much happier knowing you’ll have sold & be moved before the summer if you list now. Why wait any longer?

cuppycakey · 28/12/2020 16:26

I agree with PP that you should offload the house ASAP.

Why have you allowed this to continue for seven years without moving before?

Please don't make any further complaints or do any of the silly antics suggested to try and wind them up. If it goes formal any dispute will show up on searches and you will never be able to sell it.

Just get rid of it and good luck with the next lot of neighbours!

PerveenMistry · 28/12/2020 16:31

@AppleJane

My neighbor is disdainful of women but seems to be eager for approval from men judging by his interactions with other householders. Maybe two big scary guys would make an impression.

This is so common! And scaring older people. My elderly relative's neighbour didn't realise I was visiting one day when he was trying to bully them. When I and my burly DP suddenly appeared and used some blue words he went pale and never bothered them again. His face was hilarious. Absolute bullies.

Exactly. I'm a small middle aged woman.

When I've had authoritative men over, neighbor turns tail. I'd love to rent to a biker gang or similar.

AppleJane · 28/12/2020 17:10

I'd love to rent to a biker gang or similar

Even free rent for a couple of weeks would be hilarious! Or Air b&b. Now there's a thought!

PerveenMistry · 28/12/2020 17:58

@AppleJane

I'd love to rent to a biker gang or similar

Even free rent for a couple of weeks would be hilarious! Or Air b&b. Now there's a thought!

Rent free and I'd wait upon them hand and foot if they could tone down Bubba and his clan, believe me.

In all seriousness the video security cameras did help a bit, set in the window, and they are fairly low priced via Amazon and such.

AppleJane · 28/12/2020 18:20
Grin

Cameras definitely help! What sort of antics does Bubba get up to?

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