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Shr1881 · 28/12/2020 01:05

This situation is genuinely upsetting me quite a lot and I’m just hoping for some advice on how to let this wash over me. (Not really looking for advice on what I can actively do about it as I’ve been there and done that and absolutely nothing changes).

One of our next door neighbours is awful. We are all in detached houses but bizarrely the gardens are fairly narrow and so we are quite close together. They have two dogs and during the spring and summer months they let them in the garden for hours at a time to bark and bark and bark. It’s not even like the dogs are trying to get back in the house, because the people that live there are out in the garden with them at the same time, you can hear them winding the dogs up which of course makes them even worse. They have I think 3 or 4 kids who scream and scream when in the garden. I have no issue with listening to kids play and have fun but this screaming goes through you. It can be for most of the day when the weather is hot and sunny.

They are the kind of people who only have to have the slightest sniff of sun to be out in the garden chatting to each other, or on their phones. That in itself is of course not a problem but the volume they talk at is absolutely ridiculous, often it is so loud it sounds as if they are arguing with each other but “much” of the time it is just the way they talk, and the disgusting language it’s quite embarrassing to listen to sometimes. (And yes it is frequently in front of the kids as I’ve heard them out there at the same time). Well - I say “much” of the time they are not arguing - However I would say a couple of times a month they have a blazing row in the back garden for all to hear.

The vast majority of these problems calm down in the winter months when they are indoors. My mental health has deteriorated quite badly during the 7 years we’ve lived here, directly related to living next door to these people. It is as if as soon as the spring weather arrives it gets really bad and then I find myself counting down the days until autumn and winter because I know it’s going to calm down again.

They are most certainly not approachable types however the year before last I did finally find the courage inside me to approach them over the fence, I was literally shaking as I was talking to her, it had taken me a long time to pluck the courage up to do this. At that particular time the main issue was the dog barking driving us absolutely insane. DH and I work all kinds of weird and wonderful shift patterns and I tried to explain this to her and how it was disrupting us (One evening last July I very embarrassingly fell asleep at my desk at work!). I didn’t expect her to take me seriously and she kind of shrugged her shoulders and said “well we have a very up-and-down relationship and family life is crazy isn’t it” then she walked off. Something along those lines anyway. I didn’t say anything to her about the screaming from the kids because I didn’t know whether I was overreacting or not, but as it happened, the summer before last I had some friends to stay and they both commented on how noisy the kids were - One of the friends is a primary teacher and she said she had never heard anything like it before. So I guess it clarified for me that I am not overreacting lol.

DH and I are going to be putting the house on the market next year but of course with the virus and Brexit nobody knows when this will be or how long it will take to sell.

What I am really wanting are some techniques to be able to block all of this out. Literally all I want is to not be so miserable about it but I don’t know how!

I have spoken to our local environmental health department just for some advice and they told me to try and speak to the neighbours in a friendly manner first which I have done, The next step would be a formal complaint but I do not want to go down that road especially with selling the house because I would have to declare it and I can tell that our neighbours are the sort of people it would not be difficult to fall out with and I absolutely do not want to do that at all. So I am not going to be making a formal complaint.

My mental health in the spring and summer months has got to the stage where the GP has prescribed medication which I have yet to take, but before I go down that road I would like to know if there are any other coping techniques people can recommend until we move? I think that the very fact I am posting this over Christmas and already dreading the spring is a reflection of how much it affects my life.

OP posts:
Nnkk · 28/12/2020 08:31

Your neighbours are just using their garden. That’s what it’s for.

They’re outside playing with their dogs, their kids are playing and the are outside with them talking and on their phones.

AppleJane · 28/12/2020 08:35

@Nnkk

Your neighbours are just using their garden. That’s what it’s for.

They’re outside playing with their dogs, their kids are playing and the are outside with them talking and on their phones.

You've clearly not experienced the difference between a dog barking occasionally and a dog barking relentlessly for hours from 4am until midnight. There's ordinary family life 'sounds' and then there's relentless noise.
Melonlover80 · 28/12/2020 08:37

I understand your reluctance to formally report in order to avoid having to declare when you sell BUT I would feel so guilty selling if I were you - knowing this issue.

I would formally report. If it is as bad as you say, then surely others will be effected by two dogs constantly barking, and the complaint will be taken seriously

missrks · 28/12/2020 08:39

Of you're struggling with anxiety a low dose of propanarol was prescribed to me for a really stressful time. Had no adverse affects at all. It basically stops the physical symptoms of it. The first time I had a work related confrontation (customer focused) I never shook! It's given me so much confidence. Don't suffer. X

Emmie12345 · 28/12/2020 08:40

If you can’t sell it right now, rent it out and move !

Soontobe60 · 28/12/2020 08:43

We have noisy neighbours and many have dogs that bark. Summer was ‘difficult’! I bought a new iPad and got some air pods with them - what a game changer! When I’m in the garden I listen to podcasts or music, or even watch videos or films. It doesn’t block out all the noise, but makes it tolerable. My DH got the noise cancelling ones recently - which do block out all noise. Try them.

tulippa · 28/12/2020 08:46

You are doing the right thing by moving - just try to get it done sooner rather than later. We moved away from similar neighbours (they didn't have dogs though) 18 months ago and I was so relieved we didn't have to spend lock down next door to them! DH has always WFH and was being driven slowly insane.

Those people saying your neighbours are just enjoying their garden have obviously never lived next door to people like these!

Crimblecrumble1990 · 28/12/2020 08:53

Get it on the market, houses are flying around here so don't let the virus/brexit put you off. Best of luck OP

TheSmallAssassin · 28/12/2020 08:56

I wonder if these would help?

www.flareaudio.com/pages/calmer-life

I got an advert about them earlier in the week which did mention children shouting, dogs barking.

DisorganisedPurpose · 28/12/2020 08:59

I don't agree with trying to hoodwink potential buyers. You should not hide that there is a lively family next door if they ask. That would not be fair.

lilylongjohn · 28/12/2020 09:05

Housing market is really good at the moment, get it on the market now

2fallsagain · 28/12/2020 09:06

What do your other neighbours think OP? Have you talked to them to figure out whether it's a problem for everyone? It's a terrible situation but I could not lie to potential buyers about my reasons for selling.

Serin · 28/12/2020 09:06

This would drive me mad but you are being unreasonable to accept medication and then not even try it.

NottinghamFlorest · 28/12/2020 09:10

@CelestrialWarrior

Yabu, they are in there own garden ffs, I suggest you get help for your anxiety because neighbours out in there garden should not cause you to be like this.
😂
NotBrigitteBardot · 28/12/2020 09:19

Get it on the market now. 2 houses in our street have sold over the past few weeks. Add the moving costs to the mortgage if you need to.

Melonlover80 · 28/12/2020 09:27

@CelestrialWarrior

Yabu, they are in there own garden ffs, I suggest you get help for your anxiety because neighbours out in there garden should not cause you to be like this.
@CelestrialWarrior

Thankfully - council Environmental agencies and police enforcement don’t agree that you can do whatever the hell you like in your own garden

GabsAlot · 28/12/2020 09:28

if youre going to move then dont report it officially but sell asap before spring comes along otherwise it will never sell if theyre out there all day

i made a complaint about a neighbours dog barking-inside though they sent letters i kept a diary then they moved-(dont know if evicted or not)

Verrucapepper · 28/12/2020 09:44

Put it on the market now.
Buy some wireless headphones and listen to music/podcasts/white noise.
Play music all around the house.
Take up a hobby away from the home so you’re not home as much.
Good luck.

Calmandmeasured1 · 28/12/2020 10:08

You need to keep focussing on your plans to sell the house and imagining a time when you have moved away from them. It would be much better though if you could put the house on the market now (even if you have to take a loan out for the selling costs) so that potential buyers aren't put off by the noise from these neighbours if you were to sell in the spring or summer.

You have my sympathies. They sound awful.

sunshinesupermum · 28/12/2020 10:15

Please market your house in the winter when neighbours aren't out in the garden. And meanwhile, the meds will only be short term to tide you over and if there are side effects there are always alternative meds you can try.

Poorlykitten · 28/12/2020 10:24

I wouldn’t wait to put it on the market, especially as house prices are still okay at the moment, who knows how long that might last?

Coffeeandcocopops · 28/12/2020 10:47

I would take out an interest free credit card for purchases and balances and use this card to move now. You can put the removal fees, estate agents fees etc on this and then pay it off in the future. Your mental health is far more important then waiting to save the costs of moving. Or get a loan - rates are so low at the moment.

chaosmaker · 28/12/2020 10:57

@CelestrialWarrior

Yabu, they are in there own garden ffs, I suggest you get help for your anxiety because neighbours out in there garden should not cause you to be like this.
They can and do cause anxiety. You are probably one of those people bringing misery to those you are a neighbour to. Would be nice if there were places that loud people could all live near each other and not annoy those that like it quieter/tolerable.
PanannyPanoo · 28/12/2020 11:48

Would you consider a new build? Many do part exchange with your property, friends of ours did this and said it was very straight forward and saved a lot of stress. Means you have no chain and can move immediately, without the guilt of making a relationship with new buyers.

christmascarly · 28/12/2020 12:04

Agree with @Dundundunnn

Totally understandable that you want to move but you're really just offloading the issue on someone else and could potentially move straight into a similar situation yourselves if everyone did this.

Not saying there's another answer. It really should be easier to deal with these people, but the response on these kinds of threads always strikes me as a bit knee jerk.