Hilaria Baldwin pretended to be Spanish wtf?!

[Ballstothis148]

This is the least important and most weird story of 2020.... this woman comes up on my Instagram a lot as a suggested page. Tbh I don’t find her interesting but know she’s Spanish and is into health, having babies with Alec Baldwin and that’s pretty much it. She speaks with a Spanish accent, on her IG page she calls her children “Baldwinitos” I do remember an article saying when she speaks Spanish to her kids people confuse her for a nanny so I thought an interesting take on a European mum in the States.

Except it’s all a lie. She’s not remotely Spanish. Her wealthy Boston parents (no Spanish ancestry) now have a holiday home there.

What is wrong with people?! I include me for being too interested :) why pretend to be Spanish? In one interview she even pretended she didn’t know the word for cucumber as her English isn’t that good

Oh and she’s not even called Hilaria, she’s called Hilary. This year I swear... what an odd story!! I did know a girl who went very French after a romance there one year... maybe it’s a thing!

Literally my span-ero (Spanish hero). She must do a 'how to be a Spaniard' conference in Spain.

As a Spanish woman, born to immigrant parents (my ethnic heritage is from another country), her statements are quite offensive.

To start with, she gives herself away when using the name Hilaria. No one under the age of 95 is called that in Spain

Her kids have a first name and two middle names. I'd love to find another Spanish person who's ever done that (apart from royalty and nobility).

Spain is still quite a racist country and I'm actually going to check later what they're saying about this non-sense.

It is incredibly hard for Spanish born and bred children from an immigrant family, to be accepted as Spanish. My parents moved to Spain when they were teenagers, 40 years ago. We spoke Spanish at home, celebrated Spanish holidays, they cook Spanish food and I've only been to their country on a handful of holidays, to visit the one living relative we still have there. We all had Spanish documents from birth, but one of my 4 siblings has quite an old-fashioned name for Spanish standards (think Edith or Mabel in the UK), and it gets questioned. 'Where are your parents from?' It's an immediate assumption that you're not Spanish. The only culture we have ever known is Spanish.

I lived in the UK for many, many years. It has influenced my personality and I find myself very close to the British culture and traditions now, but I'm not British. Nor can I identify as British, I was never raised British. When it comes to languages - yes, if you're bi/tri/multi-lingual forgetting a word in one of those languages, even your mother tongue, happens. Doing it on purpose for the cameras, meh. People won't think you're more interesting because of it

Ah bless her it's so cringe.
It a bit like that daft lie you told at 14 about how you DEFINITELY had a Italian boyfriend who you met on holiday who was actually also secretly the prince of argentina, except his family were in hiding because of an argument with the Dutch.

Except in her position she told that silly lie to a hollywood actor and then married him

Hilaria is about to be ‘cancelled’ in to outer space like Rachel Dolzelal before her. Meanwhile the stunning and brave TW continue to bask in the warm glow of #TWAW and #bekind.

How could that possibly be? I wonder...

Sorry but if cis-Spanish people don't accept her as who she says she is, they're anti-transspanish person. That's literal violence and a hate crime. It's the rules.

She's had six kids in 8 years and she still spends time to speak in Spanish and English on Instagram?

8 pregnancies in 8 years. She had 6 children and two publicly discussed miscarriages too, so an average of a pregnancy per year. She has time to put it all on instagram too.

You need to read the article again

She was born in Boston and spent time in both Spain and America. Most of her family live in Spain. Her ancestry is Spanish

So to me, that means she is spanish by blood and American by nationality although I assume she is a dual national.

Really not rocket science and in the grand scheme of things, who really gives a flying hoot what she says she is or isn't.

Not many people who haven't spent a significant amount of time in a culture can speak fluently that language without a strong accent. She obviously does have a lot of opportunities, through her family, to speak Spanish, go to Spain and so forth.

She isn't 'bi-cultural' in the more traditional sense of having one parent from each culture, but she isn't unable to speak Spanish or anything silly like that.

Having names that work in both cultures you live in seems sensible to me. My children have generic European names that work both in Britain and in their other culture, I deliberately chose them.

I'm kind of amazed this is shocking in the US as I understood identifying with your cultural heritage, even if several generations ago, was quite normal (e.g. 'Irish' if grandparents or even further back were 'Irish'). That always seemed weird to us.

I think the truth is more complex than she once had a Spanish boyfriend, or she had a two week holiday in Spain- her siblings speak Spanish, her family live in Spain, it's not completely made-up even if it is exaggerated slightly.

@ElizaLaLa careful, saying something like that is literal violence and oppression. You must never speak the truth about such things.

@MellowYellow101

You need to read the article again

She was born in Boston and spent time in both Spain and America. Most of her family live in Spain. Her ancestry is Spanish

So to me, that means she is spanish by blood and American by nationality although I assume she is a dual national.

Really not rocket science and in the grand scheme of things, who really gives a flying hoot what she says she is or isn't.

Her ancestry isn't Spanish. The closest I can find is that her dad once studied Spanish literature! Clearly there's a love of Spain in her family, with holidays there, culminating in her parents retiring there. But I don't think any actual Spanish ancestry has come to light. The ancestry that we do know about is very Anglo, though she has alluded to "many, many, many" ethnicities in her ancestry.

if she's gone through the effort of learning the language so perfectly that she doesn't have a US accent when she speaks Spanish

I speak English with a British accent and a couple more languages I'd rather not name on this thread as it could be outing.

I'm none of those things.

To a PP, her parents don't have Spanish heritage, and living somewhere doesn't make you a national of that country. It's slightly more complicated than that.

I have barely heard of her before and watched her latest Instagram video after seeing this thread. Her explanation of it seems to make sense 🤷🏻‍♀️ I was all ready to be up in arms as if she was the next Rachel dollezal.

MellowYellow101

You need to read the article again

She was born in Boston and spent time in both Spain and America. Most of her family live in Spain. Her ancestry is Spanish

So to me, that means she is spanish by blood and American by nationality although I assume she is a dual national.

Really not rocket science and in the grand scheme of things, who really gives a flying hoot what she says she is or isn't.

I think it’s you who needs to read the article again or do some research. She went on holiday to Spain in her childhood and her American parents retired to Majorca in 2011. There is no Spanish ancestry.

@Summerdayshaze

She’s a Spanish person born in the wrong country. Imagine how awful that must feel. I think she’s being very brave. Especially after she got deadnamed.

😆 seriously? I'm a super model I was just born in the wrong body.....

Poor lass. Maybe she grew up with a real passion for dancing flamenco, eating paella and [insert other Spanish stereotype here]...and realised she actually IS Spanish, underneath her WASP exterior?

I guess she felt like she needed to make herself more exotic to appeal to a ‘celebrity’ although it’s a long time since Alec Baldwin has been in anything.

The ancestry that we do know about is very Anglo, though she has alluded to "many, many, many" ethnicities in her ancestry.

I've just had my Ancestry DNA results back and I'm 2% ethnically Norwegian. From now on I'm going to listen to A-Ha, rename my oldest child Fjord and eat pickled fish for breakfast and if you don't accept my Norwegian identity then that's so so offensive.

Most Americans have very mixed genetic make-up. They are a nation of immigrants.

Her parents ancestors can be traced back to pre revolutionary wars, meaning she is a WASP.

Also love this thread, barely heard of her but it's a fabulous distraction from the COVID board. Off to disappear down a twitter rabbit hole of yoga videos in changing accents!

Surely she's just transSpanish?

Kimakima I don't believe that, no. I do think it is however concerning how obsessed she is with pregnancy. As someone who suffered recurrent mcs, I read about her before in the context of pregnancy loss and watched her profile before this current issue came to light. My impression was that something wasn't right, she didn't come across stable to me at all. So to an extent the current issue is another one to add to this, I do think she may need help.Or, she is an absolute attention seeker, selling all of her privacy and looking to become an icon of Hispanics in America, the latter won't happen now.

@Northofsomewhere

This is the first I've heard of it, but I think what pushes this past the point of 'no harm' is that she was claiming that being Spanish (which she's not) has negatively affected her in the US. It's different if she's just embracing Spanish culture including food and language but to pretend to be Spanish is different. It reminds me a little of Rachael Dolezal, a white woman who pretended to be an African American woman going as far as changing her appearance to convince people. She also became an activist and spoke on experiences that as a white woman she had never experienced and reached a prominent role in the NAACP. I don't see how what Rachael Dolezal did and what Hilaria Baldwin is doing is that different. They're using another culture/race (even though one is European, does that make it more acceptable?) To claim hardship as well as to fool other people. She might very well really appreciate and understand Spanish culture or an Americanised version of it but she will never be Spanish.

That was the first thing that sprung to my mind too.

Rachel Dolezal was ripped to shreds for self identification as a black woman, but Hilary Baldwin is doing the same thing, pretending to me something she is not, without the vitriolic backlash.

Double standards.

@StealthPolarBear

Are there a lot of people turning a blind eye to the huge double standards here?

There really are aren't there.

Maybe it's because of the lack of people on twitter threatening to rape or kill anyone saying Hilaria Baldwin isn't Spanish. No offers of sucking on Spanish cock in response to tweets saying Hilaria Baldwin can't be Spanish because she wasn't born or raised in Spain.

Any celebrity that says Hilaria Baldwin isn't Spanish needs to be cancelled.

It all sounds very bizarre but the more I read, the more it seems of people enjoying the 'pile on' and loving being able to cancel another celebrity.

There is a massive difference in the US for people who are Spanish and those who are from Spanish speaking countries - it's not right at all but people from Spain aren't viewed as 2nd class citizens or seen as being there illegally. Latino/ Latina people are very much looked down upon whereas those from Spain aren't (not by everyone obviously but they do suffer from racism in a way that Europeans from whatever country don't).

I can't see what harm she has done at all. She is probably correct in that if she is speaking to her children in Spanish (& why wouldn't she as it's great to be bi-lingual) that other mums in the playground will assume she's the nanny (as a lot of child care is done by Hispanics).