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Hilaria Baldwin pretended to be Spanish wtf?!

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Ballstothis148 · 28/12/2020 00:24

This is the least important and most weird story of 2020.... this woman comes up on my Instagram a lot as a suggested page. Tbh I don’t find her interesting but know she’s Spanish and is into health, having babies with Alec Baldwin and that’s pretty much it. She speaks with a Spanish accent, on her IG page she calls her children “Baldwinitos” Hmm I do remember an article saying when she speaks Spanish to her kids people confuse her for a nanny so I thought an interesting take on a European mum in the States.

Except it’s all a lie. She’s not remotely Spanish. Her wealthy Boston parents (no Spanish ancestry) now have a holiday home there.

What is wrong with people?! I include me for being too interested :) why pretend to be Spanish? In one interview she even pretended she didn’t know the word for cucumber as her English isn’t that good Confused

Oh and she’s not even called Hilaria, she’s called Hilary. This year I swear... what an odd story!! I did know a girl who went very French after a romance there one year... maybe it’s a thing!

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TanglinOrchards · 29/12/2020 14:45

Just watched some youtube videos where she is speaking english with a clear american accent.

But like seriously- ... 5 kids???!!!! and a body like that?! Them thar some good genes (and hard work too I guess!)

IcedPurple · 29/12/2020 14:50

All of that is true. For all the semantics about this vindictive episode being an informed discussion on identity politics, it's very clearly about jealousy of some or all of the above and posters trying to pretend otherwise are fooling no-one. Comments that this story is a gift to end 2020 with are just vile.

For the record, while there are many celebrities whose lives I envy, Hilaria's is not one of them. I don't covet her children, her looks, her ageing husband and certainly not her obsessive need for affirmation via social media. Would be nice to have her money though, I'll admit that.

In any case, this idea that if a woman can't be in any way critical of another woman without being accused of 'jealousy' is moronic and retrogressive. Almost any public figure has aspects of their lives which are 'enviable', even if only their money. So by your logic, nobody is allowed to criticise any public figure. Or does that only apply to women? When men slag off other men, as they do all the time, is that also down to jealousy of their ravishing good looks and house full of kids?

User647647 · 29/12/2020 14:59

@LittleBearPad

I know it’s perfectly possible, just quite unusual though.

I only know of Spanish girls being nannies in the US for a year or two in order to learn English, maybe they had a succession of them.

However, it’s very common for South American women to be employed for many years as nannies in the US.

workshy44 · 29/12/2020 15:05

I feel sorry for her. It was a lie that got out of hand. By all accounts she is a very nice person, even the school friends who outed her said she was very kind and her step daughter is defending her to the hilt, that says something
Its so embarrassing for her though and will be v hard to recover from.

Fizzydrinks123 · 29/12/2020 15:15

Indeed @icedpurple - the accusation that women are jealous if they express an opinion against another woman is from a very, very male perspective.

It is how some men like to perceive women - until it is pointed out that by that reckoning they must be jealous of Robbie Williams (add any name). Yes he's rich, yes some people may think he's attractive - but I do really, really believe that it is possible for a male to dislike Robbie Williams without in any way being jealous of him.

Tiresome.

IME the wealthier families who wish their dc to become fluent in a foreign language will have a succession of year long au pairs rather than nannies who come from relatively well to do and educated backgrounds that then stay friendly with their young "charges" as they grow up and are wider family friends.

It is a formative time for the au pair as well as the child and people become fond of one another - not strictly the employed role of a "nanny" which may be carried out by someone else along with others to do the running of the house.

Having been an au pair in Madrid back in the 80s there was a very them and us society with staff treated more or less as family, but not very well respected family. However, the au pair was "helping children with learning foreign language" and didn't do anything more and wasn't "staff" as such and respected a little more.

MyGazeboisLeaking · 29/12/2020 15:21

It's a fascinating story.

There are video clips of Alex Baldwin on chat shows, saying 'my wife is Spanish'.

She does seem really nice and her children seem lovely, bright and fun. But she's not Spanish.

IcedPurple · 29/12/2020 15:22

Indeed @icedpurple - the accusation that women are jealous if they express an opinion against another woman is from a very, very male perspective.

Yes it's absolutely a misogynist cliche about women. If a woman is critical of another woman - especially one considered 'hot', as many women in the public eye are - then it can't be for rational reasons, but because she's a jealous bitch. 50% of the population is female. Why should they be off limits, especially when they enthusiastically put themselves out there, as Hilary does?

It is how some men like to perceive women - until it is pointed out that by that reckoning they must be jealous of Robbie Williams (add any name). Yes he's rich, yes some people may think he's attractive - but I do really, really believe that it is possible for a male to dislike Robbie Williams without in any way being jealous of him.

Yes, men slag off footballers, actors, singers etc all the time. Most of these men are rich, have attractive wives and are often considered hot themselves. Do men accuse each other of being 'jealous' if they don't fawn all over them? I doubt it.

zzizz · 29/12/2020 15:22

I'm sure she'll be just fine for those who are worried. She's healthy, wealthy, has a husband who worships the ground she walks on, and family who love and support her.

Sure she's probably a bit red-faced and mortified right now - but that was always going to happen, this was going to come out at some point. It'll be old news by next week.

I'm surprised that their PR team hasn't handled it all better though. Someone will be in for it when work resumes!

PurplePansy05 · 29/12/2020 15:27

It's like it's suddenly become offensive to criticise people who are picture perfect. They appear so perfect, so they must be untouchable - according to some - and whoever expresses a negative opinion on their actions is automatically vilified/considered a bully/defaming/jealous/anti-women(or men)/unkind etc., etc. The world really needs to wake up and relearn what being critical, integrity and accountability mean, and why they are important.

I am sick to death of brainwashed parrots repeating the above groundless accusations, here, on SM and generally in the digital world.

We're all held to account by others at some point if we lie. Someone with a public platform created by their own choice will always be more exposed and held accountable by a larger group of people. Rightly so, they aspire to lead by example and should therefore adhere to the same or higher standards as every other decent person.

People need to relearn (or learn?) to think critically and to think for themselves instead of absorbing the mash served to them by the picture perfect celebrities with every cell.

user1471565182 · 29/12/2020 15:53

oh for fucks sake nobody is bullying. People tell stupid lies to inflate their own ego and feel a bit more interesting, people find out and give them a pisstaking, then move on. Its a good system.

user1471565182 · 29/12/2020 15:53

Wasnt aware she was the only person in the world to have children.

Carlislemumof4 · 29/12/2020 16:06

@zzizz

I'm sure she'll be just fine for those who are worried. She's healthy, wealthy, has a husband who worships the ground she walks on, and family who love and support her.

Sure she's probably a bit red-faced and mortified right now - but that was always going to happen, this was going to come out at some point. It'll be old news by next week.

I'm surprised that their PR team hasn't handled it all better though. Someone will be in for it when work resumes!

Hopefully you're right, though she does have a fragility about her and Alec... well his history is out there. I'm sure he knew her parents and background but he may not like this embarrassment. Would be awful to see a young family split up due to others vindictiveness.
Kaliorphic · 29/12/2020 16:09

Would be awful to see a young family split up due to others vindictiveness

Yes it would. Hopefully she is strong enough to ignore this.

LittleBearPad · 29/12/2020 16:12

It would be better if she acknowledged it’s a bit of a fuck up and then moved on. Ignoring things doesn’t make things go away and she he dropped a bit of clanger.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 29/12/2020 16:13

I'm sure he knew her parents and background but he may not like this embarrassment

Seriously. She is a very attractive younger woman. He does not care where she pretends to come from.

user1471565182 · 29/12/2020 16:13

As I said on here just the other day. Libfems will always rush to defend the rich first and foremost. Nevermind the actual immigrants shes trampled all over. I wont hold back from criticising somebody just because theyre a woman.

user1471565182 · 29/12/2020 16:14

Easy solution. Dont be a compulsive liar.

PurplePansy05 · 29/12/2020 16:16

Oh here's another one, forgot to add "vindictiveness" to my long list of unjustified accusations. Wink

"Libfems" - love this, user. Spot on, sadly and no reasonable arguments are getting through.

Carlislemumof4 · 29/12/2020 16:27

@TheYearOfSmallThings

I'm sure he knew her parents and background but he may not like this embarrassment

Seriously. She is a very attractive younger woman. He does not care where she pretends to come from.

He strikes me as caring very much about his public image though.

She calls herself Hilaria Thomas Baldwin, Thomas being her father's surname. She clearly hasn't ever lied about her parentage.

IcedPurple · 29/12/2020 16:45

Would be awful to see a young family split up due to others vindictiveness.

Not sure how a bloke nearly old enough to claim his bus pass qualifies as 'young', but this is a new level of emotional blackmail here.

Seems bizarre to get upset about the 'vindictiveness' of people calling out an elaborate lie used to sell one's public image, rather than pointing the finger at the person who created and sustained that lie. But as I've said above, I am baffled as to how people become so devoted to talentless celebrities who wouldn't cross the road for them.

zzizz · 29/12/2020 16:49

He's very publicly defended her on Instagram and other platforms. They're not splitting. All is well Smile

VanillaSuger · 29/12/2020 16:50

I once met Alec Baldwin at a book signing in Toronto. He had had a very bad and bumpy flight from New York and he arrived green, unshaven and about to puke.

Kaliorphic · 29/12/2020 16:54

I am baffled as to how people become so devoted to talentless celebrities who wouldn't cross the road for them.

It's not about devotion. It's about a sense of decency. Which the group herd mentality of modern social media has completely destroyed.

Fizzydrinks123 · 29/12/2020 16:55

Careful, we must collude in lies so we don't upset the big scary man : Alec Baldwin.... - scuttle along now and we know what he's like when he gets angry.

Really?

We should be careful not to highlight the pitfalls of using one's children as adornments for lifestyle promotion? This is just Katie Price with a classier twang.

Yes, people that live like this do seem to be to be emotionally fragile; colluding with them only adds to the damage. These are adults and we shouldn't all tip toe around certain issues because another adult wants to play pretend.

I imagine there are lots of people around Hilaria that thought "hang on, that's not true" but in the effort to remain "kind" and seeing her as being "fragile" thought it would be better to play along.

The kinder thing would be a friend telling her years ago that it is dishonest and people don't take kindly to being misled. Being "kind" did no favours to avoiding this embarrassment that may upset the big scary man. It will be the world's fault if Alec gets angry? No, it would be Alec's fault if he gets angry. Hopefully, they will support one another and live happily ever after (in private).

Again, I'm talking about wider issues, but Hilaria is a case in point of the day to demonstrate the madness of the "be kind" to everyone and them wanting to live imagined realities - maybe someone in her inner circle not being so "kind" would have avoided all this?

IcedPurple · 29/12/2020 17:00

@Kaliorphic

I am baffled as to how people become so devoted to talentless celebrities who wouldn't cross the road for them.

It's not about devotion. It's about a sense of decency. Which the group herd mentality of modern social media has completely destroyed.

Does creating an elaborate lie to boost your profile on that same social media your heroine lives on count as 'decency' in your book?