Cava - cavver or carver?

[StillCoughingandLaughing]

Just been on the phone to my mother, who was waxing lyrical about the lovely ‘cavver’ (Cava) she’s bought to go with Christmas lunch. I’ve always pronounced it ‘carver’, with a soft A, and that’s what I hear more often than not, but she’s not alone in her pronunciation, so I have a nagging doubt I could be wrong. Can I get the views of the MN jury?

YABU = Cavver with a hard A
YANBU = Carver with a soft A

This thread has been fucking hilarious.

@StillCoughingandLaughing

There are no R's in the word cava.

There’s no R in the word aga either.

No and you don't pronounce an r in it either.

Maybe it's to do with regional accents?

I would pronounce cava like lava. I don't get the uh sound at the end or that it has an r sound in it.

Just like lots of people say Wensday but I say Weddensday

Who puts an R in Aga?

Half my family are Scottish and none of them would. The other half have RP accents, so definitely no R.

If someone told me they had bought an Arga/arger I would ask them "What's that?"

British people do pronounce R's where no R exists.
And they don't pronounce R's where they do exist lol.

Take the word water as an e.g.

I've heard 'waw-ah' and 'wa-tah'

Sometimes no T and no R pronounced. Sometimes just no R pronounced.

It seems to be peculiar to certain parts of England especially.

Some English accents are so weird about Rs. You don't pronounce them half the time then stick imaginary ones in words so you can then not pronounce them either.

Then you have Amandar and pastar as another poster mentioned. No R in the words, but they're pronounced for some reason.

@RudolphToldRedNoseNotSymptom

Then you have Amandar and pastar as another poster mentioned. No R in the words, but they're pronounced for some reason.

Indeed. 🙄🙄🙄

I suspect that the English lack of study of other languages may be a culprit.

Spanish must confuse the befuck out of English students lol.

What kind of regional accent would say Amandar or pastar?

Genuinely never heard this where I live, so interested where it's so usual to insert all these random Rs

Like the OP and her Mum would pronounce either one or two R's in cava.

Listen to Gemma Collins (from Essex). Her accent is baffling. I'm not sure how she manages to spell words with all the R's she adds on.

Here you are. Click the little speaker icon to hear the UK pronounciation.
End of debate.
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/cava

East Londoners are others who add on random R's

[quote FiveFootTwoEyesOfBlue]Here you are. Click the little speaker icon to hear the UK pronounciation.
End of debate.
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/cava[/quote]
Some of us have actually studied other languages gasp so don't pronounce things the 'Cambridge' or 'Oxford' way.

I've studied 5 languages other than English, so find language interesting.

The English in general will have only studied English and French at primary.

@cuppycakey

What kind of regional accent would say Amandar or pastar?

Genuinely never heard this where I live, so interested where it's so usual to insert all these random Rs

I am imagining all of these words in a Bristolian accent.

Goodness @StillCoughingandLaughing there's no need to be so rude.

Your accent is different from many people's in this this thread, that is all.

Well I haven't heard of an Argar either.

I'd be forgiven for thinking it was something exotic like caviar haha

@cuppycakey

What kind of regional accent would say Amandar or pastar?

Genuinely never heard this where I live, so interested where it's so usual to insert all these random Rs

You must have heard drawring, presumably the same people who have chests of draws, they save up the “r”s from drawer to use in drawing.

@RudolphToldRedNoseNotSymptom

Well I haven't heard of an Argar either.

I'd be forgiven for thinking it was something exotic like caviar haha

I'd have thought of agar plates (Petri dishes). Not really the image they're trying to convey...

they save up the “r”s from drawer to use in drawing.

Lol

Where does it originate from? This mysterious use of R's?