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I’m not a teacher but......

445 replies

Comefromaway · 23/12/2020 15:54

I think it’s time you went on strike.

The government clearly don’t give a toss about you, our kids & subsequently our families.

My daughter is so stressed about the school/college environment. Everywhere she’s being told that she can’t do this that and the other because people are dying. But she’s expected to go into college and have her normal classes with overcrowding and no effective mitigation.

Medical officer woman has clearly not been into a school. The teachers & students are dropping like flies.

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Letseatgrandma · 23/12/2020 19:15

@Piggyinblankets

Right - o. But if he tested positive then what happens?? Did the webinar deal with that??

I ahve seen some limited highlights on Twitter..

Of course not, don’t be silly. No questions were actually answered!

I suspect all the positives will be put in a cupboard by someone in a hazmat suit and held there until parents can come to collect.

I think we need to think carefully how traumatised some kids will be by being told they’re tested positive at school, by a teacher/volunteer/TA when their parent isn’t there to reassure them Sad

ChloeDeckTheHalls · 23/12/2020 19:15

We tried to act with integrity at my school, and unfortunately some children will have suffered for this. And I bet some of them would say they got a low science grade because I didn't like them.

But that's not true- I had literally no evidence to give them a higher grade, and I gave them the highest grade my HoD would let me get away with

Which is why Gove getting rid of coursework (sorry CA), modular exams in GCSE and A Levels and more choices of AS has done such lasting damage to young people in England.
Students would (and will again, if they go to CAGs again) have had actual banked grades instead of the shambles of the algorithm that wasn’t.
All things teachers argued and fought against at the time but many people including journalists and some parents, turned a blind eye and many even actually shot us down on Mumsnet.
Sometimes it is important to look beyond one’s immediate circumstance.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 23/12/2020 19:15

That teachers should be prioritised for the vaccine (along with community care workers etc because covid IS spreading rapidly in schools

Are teachers dying/suffering severe Covid in large numbers? No?

It doesnt matter if lots of people get covid, much as it doesnt matter if people get any other common cough/cold. What does matter is if people die/swamp ICUs with it. So the vaccine does not need to go to teachers, it needs to go to people most likely to die or suffer it severely. Which is people over 70.

kowari · 23/12/2020 19:15

@SansaSnark I would copy and paste a letter if I agreed with it. I couldn't write one, I'm useless at English. Our school have staggered breaks and have masks in corridors and good ventilation, I thought that was just standard though. At work our windows and doors are shut because of the whingers so we are all breathing the same air all day.

PoptartPoptart · 23/12/2020 19:16

Nurses get to wear PPE. Teachers don’t.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 23/12/2020 19:18

I think we need to think carefully how traumatised some kids will be by being told they’re tested positive at school, by a teacher/volunteer/TA when their parent isn’t there to reassure them*

Why would NT children be traumatised?! Overreaction much? They need to be educated that it's extremely low risk to them and focus on the positive that it is better if they know they have it so that any vulnerable family they have are best protected.

It's not dissimilar to being vaccinated at school which is standard.

CayrolBaaaskin · 23/12/2020 19:20

You obviously are a teacher

mumsneedwine · 23/12/2020 19:20

@NoIDontWatchLoveIsland we have 1 teacher dead (48, mother of 3, used to run marathons). 9 who have been in ICU (3 still there and one been there for 5 weeks). And have had 37 positive cases now. Some still v ill from May.
I'm so sorry this doesn't fit your narrative. But we have similar stories from other local schools.

Piggyinblankets · 23/12/2020 19:20

Tbh I think that should be rephrased as nurse have to wear PPE, teachers should.

Piggyinblankets · 23/12/2020 19:22

It's not the same as vaccines at all. Those are administered by highly experienced nurses and the children know that vaccines are personally protecting them. they get no bad news at the end.

happystone · 23/12/2020 19:23

I agree nurses should have ppe, what I can’t get my head around is why you don’t want teachers to have it. Yes you are a nurse thank you.

ChloeDeckTheHalls · 23/12/2020 19:23

This exactly. Imagine if all other key workers would strike now.

Yet there was lots of support when bus drivers and train drivers actually threatened to strike back in May (and rightly so).
London bus drivers have also voted for strike just in the past week, for the New Year.
Teachers haven’t actually voted to strike yet and yet as a profession, are still negatively criticised for it when someone (not even a teacher) suggests it!

I think this is why so many teachers have posted on this thread that they wouldn’t strike-public perception not that they don’t think they have unsafe working conditions.

weddingplanning15 · 23/12/2020 19:24

@Comefromaway

I think it’s time you went on strike.

The government clearly don’t give a toss about you, our kids & subsequently our families.

My daughter is so stressed about the school/college environment. Everywhere she’s being told that she can’t do this that and the other because people are dying. But she’s expected to go into college and have her normal classes with overcrowding and no effective mitigation.

Medical officer woman has clearly not been into a school. The teachers & students are dropping like flies.

Don't be silly. What is supermarket workers abs NHS staff all decided to go on strike..the world would stop.

happystone · 23/12/2020 19:27

Supermarket worker ppe. NHS ppe. Teachers fuck all

weddingplanning15 · 23/12/2020 19:28

What PPE do supermarket workers have?

PandemicPavolova · 23/12/2020 19:28

I've seen one half decent virus public info ad.

It showed green coming from mouths and actually mentioned ventilation.

Why oh why oh where are the public information ads?. Showing talking carries it, green.. Show us someone ill, a family grieving, drum home ventilation, ventilation, ventilation....

Show the simulations...

Hands face space doesn't apply in schools... I'd love to do the ad.. We need some people to get a massive rocket...

People get bored, young people tune out... Teens actually get hard hitting driving courses that cause them to faint they are so strong.

They need to hit this home, the time for a hard hitting ad... Is nigh.

ChloeDeckTheHalls · 23/12/2020 19:28

Our school have staggered breaks and have masks in corridors and good ventilation, I thought that was just standard though.

It’s interesting that you haven’t considered that some teachers might want to wear masks in their classrooms and not just the corridors. The DfE guidance in England still does not let teachers do this. (I won’t mention masks in classrooms for secondary students as well, as that’s usually a beacon for the UsForThem boys)

happystone · 23/12/2020 19:30

Supermarket workers have face masks.

happystone · 23/12/2020 19:31

Nurses have face masks

PandemicPavolova · 23/12/2020 19:31

Not once have I seen a supermarket worker surrounded by at least 20 people very closely, with no masks on anyone. Ever.

I've not seen them closely surrounded at all.

They are also free to move to less populated parts of the store, teachers have to stay with their class.

The ones who seem more at risk are check out staff because they have to sit there even with perspex screens and touch lots of stuff we have touched. They have far more interaction and really need screens on all customer sides.

Piggyinblankets · 23/12/2020 19:31

And perspex screens at checkouts. As they should.

happystone · 23/12/2020 19:32

Tea heats have a magic ring of fairy dust around the school so covid cant get in.

Letseatgrandma · 23/12/2020 19:33

Why would NT children be traumatised?!Overreaction much?

No, I don’t think it is an overreaction.

Being singled out and told you have tested positive, in front of other people, without your parent there is something that a lot of teens would find very difficult-especially if they were anxious anyway,

happystone · 23/12/2020 19:33

Teachers have fuck all. No ppe

Whatayear1234 · 23/12/2020 19:33

@mumsneedwine I'm sorry to hear that. Its awful and must be very worrying for you.