Friend claiming to be key worker

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So my friend and her husband work but aren't key workers. Here in Scotland after Christmas nurseries and schools closed unless key workers.
She says she's been told she can still send child to nursery so the nursery is lying for her and claiming she's a key worker to get place. It's a council nursery.
AIBU to be annoyed my child can't get a place. My husband is a key worker but I'm not but wfh full time with a toddler and my nursery say no place! Obviously I'm just jealous but it's so unfair some can play the system like this

Look this thread won’t work if people keep inconveniently stating sensible things like ‘bank workers are key workers’ or ‘there might be other circumstances op isn’t party to’. It only works if everyone agrees that op definitely knows absolutely every single fact about these people she can apparently hardly stand, and cracks on with slagging them off to the high heavens. Stop harshing the froth buzz man!

The key worker list is ridiculously extensive, banking comes under it. I'm not sure why you're friends with someone you're so salty towards.

As mentioned, banking is a key worker. Admin can be too depending on the industry - places still need people on the ground running things.

WFH is also irrelevant. Some people need to take confidential calls or monitor phones and can't get away from their computer every time they need to deal with their children.

Change industries so you can have 'key worker' rights if that's what you want.

1. "Mild autism" simply means that you experience their autism mildly. Know why that is? Because a lot of hard work and tailored support has been done by the parents and whatever support services are involved, not to mention hard work by the child to engage with it.

1. An autistic child attending school during lockdown is not the parents "palming them off", it is a vulnerable child continuing to access the routine and structure they need in their daily life, a child who is likely to struggle to access learning at home particularly if they compartmentalise home and school, a child who may have specific learning needs that can only be met in school (e.g., access to certains therapies or interventions via an EHCP)

1. The summer holidays are six weeks and are an expected absence from school. Many autistic children already struggle with school holidays as they greave trouble dealing with routine changes and transitions but this can be managed via preparation, social stories, etc and is quantifiable as it is for a fixed period and atarts/ends on fixed dates. A lockdown is open ended and unpredictable, two things many autistic children have difficulty with and another reason why some are better off in school

1. Autistic children, and other vulnerable children, were allowed in school as they were most at risk for making no progress never mind your claim that they have made "leaps of progress". It takes a special kind of petty to begrudge a disadvantaged child the support they need. Your DC are presumably neurotypical and while they may have "suffered" with boredom, they're were not high risk for falling irrevocably behind or for missing out on vital interventions as part of an EHCP package

1. Whether a disabled child has a SAHP or not is irrelevant, the decision to allow vulnerable children to attend school was about what is in the best interests of the child, not the parents. It is not the fault of disabled children that you live in a tiny flat.

It must be exhausting being so bitter and nasty that you would think it is acceptable to make such disgusting comments about disabled children.

OP you’re not actually friends with this person (you do realise what the definition of a ‘friend’ is, right?), so why are bothered what some random is doing or not doing?

The term vulnerable child encompasses many situations that most people are not aware of, unless you are family or one of the multi agencies involved with the family (school, GP, Local Authority, etc).
The parents may be suffering and/or dealing with issues that make their child/children vulnerable.

I personally don’t understand how some people are not bothered about protecting innocent children. How can people be resentful of a vulnerable child being allowed to attend school during a pandemic!? Covid continues to reveal the nasty side of human nature. Soo sad. When people show you who they are, believe them.

@Newjobnewstart

Possibly use holidays, childcare services, friends and relatives like most of us.

Im going to have to take unpaid leave to homeschool my kids not something i planned for when.having them! Counter that with sleepless nights on how im going to pay the bills and feed my kids id fake being a key worker to get them.in school.

Seriously?

...and you will be taking a place from a child that may NEED to be there. Disgusting.

@Woeismypants you can't be jealous of a parent of a child with autism gettin to palm them off? They thrive off routine and structure to maintain a stable life, I'm sure those parents would prefer to keep them safer at home but don't really have the option of that

@Woeismypants

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Has covid brought this out in people or are they naturally this heartless to think like this?

‘Im going to have to take unpaid leave to homeschool my kids not something i planned for when.having them! Counter that with sleepless nights on how im going to pay the bills and feed my kids id fake being a key worker to get them.in school.’

I’d imagine that staying up all night worrying about how you’re going to put food on the table and keep the roof over your head would be more of an issue than trying to homeschool your kids.

How much unpaid leave are you entitled to?
Can you WFH?
How old are your kids?
Do any of your kids have SEN?

Children are resilient. They will catch up eventually. It’s difficult and not ideal, but it is what it is. This pandemic is affecting everyone, some more than others.

I can't see a Council nursery breaking the rules to be honest. If the 'friend' is bandying around getting a place and not entitled to it, it would soon reach the complaints stage. If the nursery was inspected, they would ask to see paperwork or referrals relating to the children in attendance. Letters or referrals would need to produced.
No nursery would put themselves at such risk.
I think it's rubbish tbh.

@1stMrsFatherChristmas

Or her child is vulnerable for some reason that she doesn't want t to share with you?

This is exactly what I thought. Your friend probably has other reasons that she has for a place and doesn't want to share with you.

My friend admitted to me that her kids went to school during the last lockdown as she's classed as vulnerable due to her mental health.

I was shocked. Didn't know she had mental health issues. But then a few things slotted into place. She was very embarrassed telling me (and it slipped out because I said how hard I found homeschooling and she said she hadn't done it for long). But I'm glad she did as I can support her.

@PenelopePiper
You’re obviously a nice empathetic person 🙂

And yep bank staff are most definitely KWs

Wow how dare she? I mean what an unforgivable lie, all so she can go out to work and contribute to the system. What next?

And hoards of administrative staff who support key services are also key workers. These key services could not function without admin staff (Children’s & Adults Social Care, etc). IT Helpdesk staff also have to be considered key workers, as they support the organisation. The list is endless...

You may soon notice that a particular key workers’ absence has a negative impact on you, when you or your loved ones need them and they’re no longer there.

You do actually have to complete a form which is emailed to you if you had keyworker status before . This asks for your occupation, employer and employer contact details.
Personally I’d grass them I to the council as some of my nursing colleagues could not get full time places for heir kids last time and had to shuffle shifts around.

@Woeismypants would you like to advise of the diagnostic criteria for “mild autism”
Your coat might be on a shaky peg with that one

Report them then OP, instead of sniping about your own mates online. It doesn't sound like the healthiest of friendships if you feel she is deliberately goading you about childcare just simply to annoy you.

If they work in admin for a vital services company (there are loads) or work in finance, they're key workers by the govts own standard so it'll be your own time you're wasting.

@lockdownrules

Report to local press.
Report to the police.

People did to stop taking advantage, bending rules and get real.

[quote BilboBercow]@blue not all. My offer is 50/50. They simple can't afford the hardware for 2000 colleagues to go home and have the right set up. Plus it's not the optimal environmental for customer calls, we've had our fair share of technical problems etc [/quote]

aahh okay...I've not seen an open Bank in yonks 😂