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To need support telling landlord im moving

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Madein1995 · 22/12/2020 10:01

Hi

I feel daft writing this but my anxiety is getting the better of me and I'm hoping some sensible people can give me a nudge

The backstory is I moved into a room as a lodger in May 2019 when I moved areas and started a new job. At home I experienced physical and mental abuse from my mum and I hadnt realised how much this trauma still affected me. I live in a house with a woman, her husband and son, and another lodger

At first the landladys closeness was nice. When I first moved she made me feel welcome and more involved and it was nice to have some support. Over time boundaries have been crossed. She goes in my room without permission; she looks in my fridge, she complains at the amount of food i have in my alloted cupboard space, she says things like 'i didnt know you were out' and I feel obliged to answer. She is passive aggressive so if a cup has a thumbprint on it she will leave it on the side but not say anything. Due to my trauma, when I hear raised voices I automatically freeze. When shes cleaning I get anxious because of childhood memories. When her and husband are talking I am worried it will be about me. Ive caught her a few times talking really nastily behind my back

This all came to a head last monday. I have had Ann Summers products (delivered to post office where i collected as i know she is sensitive around sex, another crossed boundary).

Out of fear and anxiety I didn't put the boxes in the bin and instead kept them under my bed. Last week i thought enough is enough, i broke them down and put them in the bin. Nothing graphic just the plain brown boxes. She saw them and hit the roof - she had googled the address on the parcel. She was very hurtful - said it was disrespectful, how barmy i was to buy them, how nice it is i have money to burn, whether i also pay men to sleep with me, what are they for (!) , called me a liar when i said i got them at the post office and was generally horrid. I went to bed feeling sick and woke up feeling ao afraid like i did in childhood and i decided to leave.

Ive found a perfect place - a room in a shared house with professionals whete i will be a tenant. The room is lovely and big and a nice enough location. New landlady has agreed and am currently going theough referencing checks with dad as my guarantor. Sbe wants me to move in 20th January.

Im dreading telling landlady but know i have to today. I need to give 4weeks notice, but due to wales locking the border and mam self isolating anyway i am spendinh christmas here with them. Its lovely to include me of course but things are still very frosty and therea a definitie atmosphere.

Im scared stiff of telling her - what do I say? What if she becomes aggressive and has a pop? What if she demands to know details of where I am moving? What if she locks herself in her room in tears and theres an even worse atmosphere? Shes already stressed over covid.meaning she cant work and told me that during last lockdown my rent was the only thing that made them keep their home and not downsize.

I know i need to tell her. I want to move and im looking forward to it. Im enjoying googling bedclothes and spice racks and bits for the new place. But im dreading it. Part of me thought write a letter then fuck off shopping but thats quite cowardly.

Starting anew in a fresh place will stop me assigning roles to my housemates in my head - therapist has helped me see ive assigned landlady as mam in my head which doesn't help my MH and starting anew will stop me doing that. I know i need to tell her i just dont know what to say. It foesnt help that the boundaries arent there and we are close and she refers to herself as a friend and not a landlady. All of the stuff online seems quite clinical and to the point but it seems like my circumstances arw different. Im also afraid of her reaction as if its bad im afraid ill cry and get upset and fuxk it up.

I know at 25 its ridiculous to be thinking like this. It is all based on previous trauma which im workinh through- nd i find it most inconvenient how past experiences influence my thoughts and feelings now. Shes currently gone out and when i beard her car leaving i could breathe..this shows im not happy here and need to go but its having the hard conversation

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zenasfuck · 24/12/2020 14:24

I'd tell her the day before you move and let her keep your deposit in leiu of notice

You do t owe her anything and I assume you haven't got an AST agreement so enforcing your notice period is going to be very difficult for her

Madein1995 · 24/12/2020 14:46

rook im trying to recognise my irrational thinking and how i thibk and behave and linking it to the past - it causes all sorts of worry abouy everything otherwise! My therapist is a marvel - frustrating sometimes as she challenges me but ive so much more understanding of myself now. This time last year i wouldnt have imagined moving out because of fear of upsetting LL so i am improving slowly!c

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Madein1995 · 24/12/2020 15:23

Think have just caused tension again - she was doing veg esrlier as i was making my lunch and offered some help..she said 'parsnips, carrots' in a smily voice and nothing else. After lunch i offered help twice and was told no twice so assumed tjat was it and went for walks. Came back and she said she thought i was going to help! I said i meant it when i offered but how she responded made me think she was joking and i offered teice afterwafds. She said no she meant it and 'that if someone offers you dont say no!' But thats precisely what im used to! Back home at christmad wherever it was, no one except the cook does any prepping which prob influenced yow i thought of what ahe said! But then her reaponse was hardly clear itself. And now im thinking does she think ungrateful or lazy or weird or badmannered and all of the uncomfortable feelings are coming baxk up and ive gone to my room watxhing tv but do I seem rude etc?

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WankPuffins · 24/12/2020 15:38

It's not you, it's her.

She sounds vile and very, very odd.

Purplethrow · 24/12/2020 15:58

Don’t think too deeply about it , easier said than done though. All you need to remember is that she is weird , rude and not a nice person- it’s not you , it’s her .

froggybiby · 24/12/2020 15:59

I hope you can get away from there soon. She seems unhinged..
She reminds me of my sister in law 😂 whenever I offered help she refused & last year, she said we weren't welcome at hers any longer (oh well me mainly hubby and dd were) & one of the things she reproached me was not helping enough 😤😤

Brown76 · 24/12/2020 16:03

I’ve had lodgers and been one, and your landlady’s behaviour is very strange, and a big invasion of your privacy.

katy1213 · 24/12/2020 16:06

She's barking mad! Refuse to give a forwarding address and get your mail redirected by the post office.
I'd leave her some of your Ann Summers' stash as a leaving present - but I'm nice!

Madein1995 · 24/12/2020 16:55

I debated leaving an ann summers there but could just imagine her texting mam 😂 a friend suggested i biy a big black dildo and give it her for xmas! Lol

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FangsForTheMemory · 24/12/2020 17:01

I do wonder if she actually wants you to move on and that is why she's behaving like this. You're entitled to your privacy and she is invading it. Remember that you living there is a business transaction. You do not owe her anything at all.

DateN1ght2038523 · 24/12/2020 17:36

I've never given a landlord my forwarding address. It is not necessary.

If you live in UK, set up Royal Mail redirection of all your mail for one year. You can complete the form online. It costs, but it is worth it !

Personally, I prefer to rent a room or property where the landlord does not live in the same property

The landlord has no reason to be poking into your room, your cupboards or bins !

Look forward to a new year & a new start in a new home !

Good luck

CoalTit · 24/12/2020 17:42

You haven't caused tension, OP. Her behaviour is not your responsibility.

Madein1995 · 24/12/2020 21:57

Feeling all crap tonight as its 1st xmas eve not at home cos of covid. I know landlady will be nice tomorrow but its not the same. Shower still not sorted snd they dont want to pay extra so looks like itll be monday til we can have a shower or bsth. Ridiculous! Currently in fluffy jammas watching eastenders, colourinh, drinking prosecco and eating ceiaps. Would quite like to just fast forward to 20th jan when ive moved out and not have to worry about telling LL or packing or getting thru xmas etc

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Madein1995 · 25/12/2020 11:04

Im actually enjoying today so far. Thers been no mam and dad arguing at bteakfast. Theres been no need to act surprised and happy at the 50th pair of socks or ornament i said i didjt want, while stressing do i seem grateful enough or ott and fake? Therea been no mam slamming down plates or telling me after each present how much it cost. Ive got up and gone for a walk whixh would never happen at home as anyone getting dressed on xmas day is accused of ruining the day by mam. I go back for lunch off landlady which wont be as nice but i am grateful. Then i presume she will go to bed for an afternoon and i can just watxh tv and colour. This is reminding me just how hard home is. And also reminding me i need to leave current place!

Hope everyone is having an ok xmas

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billy1966 · 25/12/2020 12:15

OP,

She sounds awful.

I can't imagine how stressful it must be living in such an awfully stressful environment with someone has zero respect for your privacy.

The Ann Summers business is outrageous.

After the above you owe her NOTHING.

Definitely do not tell her where you are going.
If possible I would delay payment and leave promptly without your deposit.

It's not by accident others are coming and going.

Well done for moving on in your life.

I think you will be delighted with the change of atmosphere.

Flowers
JLLproblem · 25/12/2020 12:19

Fuck me, that sounds horrific OP! Please don’t be scared. Imagine all your Mumsnet buddies behind you when you’re handing over the letter.

Madein1995 · 25/12/2020 18:23

Feeling so anxious tonight. Dad is a guarantor but with him in wales the documents are a problem as he cant use technology. Currently he says he wil post docs to me and i will email them to the company. Except for his driving licence which he refuses to post. O said for him to use mams phone and i will guide him thru taking and sending a photo. Ordinarily mam would but shes ill and feel like i cant ask it. Hes said no to taking a photo himself. Ive text mam reminding her how much help i gave her with booking and sendinh her test and could she give dad her phone tomorrow for him to do it. No reply yet.

Part of me feels selfish but also i thibk well no hes ageeed to be guarantor so needs to do his bit. Theyve completely ignored xmas this year so not like im even intruding. I felt like it was all too good to be true and now im wondering if it will happen? Will dads stubborness put a spanner in the works? And generally working myselt up!

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TestingTestingWonTooFree · 25/12/2020 20:50

Working yourself up achieves nothing. Calm down and try your parents tomorrow.

AngelDelightUK · 26/12/2020 17:41

How have things been today OP?

How close are you to Wales? Just wondering if you could go over and take the photos yourself. Or have you got a friend or family member who could?

Madein1995 · 27/12/2020 09:39

Hiya , we have a plan! As mam has covid hey are isolating until 3rd january although dad is posting a few bits to me tomorrow to send. On the 3rd my younger cousin is going to go up tje house and take a few photos on mams phone and email them across to me, which i will then email to the company
After isolation ends my cousin will be at hand to help with bits which is good and will gove 3 weeks for referencing. Mam is deadset on not giving bqnk statements (dad was ok when i told him so will just need to talk to him when the time comes). Its just so frustrating. If not for lockdown id have gone home for xmas and done this myself. If not for mam having covid my cousin could have helped earlier. And mam is the worst patient ever - ive heard her screaming angrily at dad when ive phoned and whenever i talk to her she puts on a pathetic fake voice. I feel mean for saying it but ahe has form.

Am telling landlady today. Shiwer still not fixed so going round her sons for a much needed showrt and hair wash snd shes tsking me in car. Debating telling her thrn but unsure

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HermioneMakepeace · 27/12/2020 09:44

OP, have you heard the saying “the anticipation is always worse than the impact”? It is so true. You will feel so relieved once you’ve told her.

Madein1995 · 27/12/2020 20:27

Have been a complete wimp today. Havent found the right time to talk and now shes in her room with door shut watxhing tv . I even got as far as the door before turning around. Will do it tomorrow.

Annoyed at dad whos changing his story. Originally he was going to post docs tomorrow. Now hes not posting originals and we have to wait til the 3rdfor my cousin!! Have contacted new LL and asked to do referencing on me as if i fail she can then do it on dad as a guarantor instead. Have a loan that i need to repay and am gonna repay in dull tomorrow when the lines open and they gove me a quote, nd then ill do application. Dont wanna do it beforehand and have the debt showing on the bank.

Feeling pissed off at the wimping thing

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corlan · 27/12/2020 20:33

Go and knock on the door and speak to her. You are going to feel so much worse putting it off.
Fake bravery if you have to, but get it over with for your own peace of mind.

user1471538283 · 27/12/2020 21:02

You have a business arrangement with this woman and nothing more. Whether or not she can afford to keep her house is not your concern. I would just tell her you are moving out and state when. She must realise that lodgers do not stay forever

Madein1995 · 28/12/2020 11:25

I told her this morning and it feels odd as she got upset. And i feel awful now. She had a tear in my eye and said that the dog will miss me. She asked where it was and said the area isnt nice snd is mam ok with me going there?! Tye area is fine btw. She pulled a face and said that i might end up coming back. She said tbat she knew we had a few problems bit she didnt want me to feel forced out - explained that its the next step for me, feel ready, thanked her for her help. She volunteered her husband to help me move in which is a nice thought but i feel awkward about it so might lie about a friend doing it and just get a white van man!

Dad not well so is isolating. Am doing referencing checks on me and if i fail then we will do dad as planned. Im looking forward to going but hate this whole process

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