"F**k off, Gav. Nobody trusts you"

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Gavin Williamson appears to be now more hated than Gove by the education profession, including school leaders and head teachers, which is probably his only achievement since starting the job.

He actually managed to unite all education unions, including heads, governors and the Church of England to write a joint letter refusing to co-operate with his bonkers mass-testing plan. This never happens.

neu.org.uk/media/13741/view

"F**k off Gav. Nobody trusts you. There is no ‘we’. The good will reserves are empty. Some schools are working today on track and trace from last week because you didn’t let them close; your cut ‘n’ paste guidance is unresourced crap. You’re a bad joke."

The above quote from a prominent member of the education community is in response to an article where he gears up to pre-blame teachers and schools for the imminent failure of the mass testing programme that he wants quickly knocked up on a shoestring budget over the Christmas holidays. (Do Serco not have any of their billions of pounds budget left for this?)

twitter.com/educationgovuk/status/1341023021788770307?s=21

Given the complete breakdown in the relationship between Gavin Williamson and the people he is supposed to lead, is it indeed time for Gav to f**k off?

YABU: No, Gav is doing just fine
YANBU: Fuck off, Gav

@Misssugarplum12764 I have a friend there. They're just as mad about this as we are. Eg they didn't get told until 3pm Thursday about the current plan, after Gav released his statement.

parliamentlive.tv/event/index/eb893fa5-7468-48b9-96ad-ec08ff14f21c?in=10:02:54

Are they going to drop safeguarding checks for these parental volunteers. Worrying.

Thanks Hercwasonasnowball - I went and found it on my facebook but you got there already

I couldn't give a f**k, frankly. They are all working in the dark at the moment and nobody is going to get it right.

I'm a Primary school governor I am wondering whether I will get the call from the local Secondary school to help. I have a vulnerable family member, I would love to help but not sure I can risk carrying the virus to them.

@TheBuffster

Are they going to drop safeguarding checks for these parental volunteers. Worrying.

Supervised volunteers don’t actually qualify for DBS checks to carry out this sort of activity.

The overuse of DBS (in terms of checking everyone despite the actual rules that are meant to be in place) is being (slowly) cracked down on. Not everyone who sets foot in a school needs to be checked in the current guidelines.

ineedaholiday Gav's dad is a school governor too.

Apart from all the other reasons against this (that have already been mentioned), I pay for my daughter to get a school bus from near home into the school grounds. She is in Year 7, & has never travelled there any other way. Obviously, it only runs at the beginning & end of the school day.
If she was to be called in at a certain time for a test how is she meant to get there?
(Ill be at work, teaching in my primary school.) There will be thousands of children unable to get into school just for a test.

Supervised volunteers don’t actually qualify for DBS checks to carry out this sort of activity.

assuming they’ll be supervised....

Such a twat.

Good point re bus as above...my child also travels on the bus each day.

Who are the 5% that think Gav is doing fine? Seriously?!!!!

He’s a total idiot... yes schools should be open... but they are not safe or covid secure! That needs to be accepted by govt, and the public. I hope that all secondary schools refuse to engage with this nonsense until jan 4th (this week many are probably busy contact tracing anyway...) as for posters seeming to think that the teachers aren’t doing much this week I know at my daughters school they are probably preparing the online lessons that they will teach live from 4th Jan. Ofsted now judge online learning so it would be a brave school that didn’t provide something of high quality

Things I feel need capitalising, just to make them clear:

SCHOOLS HAVE TO PROVIDE ONLINE LEARNING FROM 4 JAN - see Gav announcement

YOU CANNOT JUST ‘GIVE KIDS A TEXTBOOK’ - see rules from Gav re online learning

NON DBS VOLUNTEERS MUST BE SUPERVISED - which service would you like to stop in order to facilitate this? Close a class and teachers do it? SEND kids left to get on with it/potentially disrupt your darling child’s education and TAs do it? No behaviours management/track and trace/general running of school and SLT do it? No lunches and kitchen staff do it? No cleaning and caretakers?

Schools, like the NHS and I suspect other public services, run on zero spare capacity. Zero. Supply budgets were exceeded by the end of September. Cleaning budgets shortly afterwards. Not a single extra penny from government.

Yes, who will be supervising the non-DBSed volunteers who are supervising the swabbing given that school staff are remote teaching or teaching keyworker kids or running a school?

There are 7 roles to be filled by volunteers, it’s not just looking at kids jabbing their tonsils, there’s registering, cleaning, processing results and notifying parents roles to do too.

Tell you what op, you and all the rest of the whinging moaners on here can all stand under the Mumsnet party in the next election and god forbid anything like this ever happen again you can all take charge

I have reached the end today with the continual government bashing on this site, the made up posts talking a complete load of twiddle, the use of good old Mumsnet common sense, the calls that school must be open during the first lockdown and now they are the calls to close them.I have been placed into a T 4 area, and all the shit that entails for Christmas and whilst I get it’s a new strain, it’s not helped because of the muppets who simply don’t think they need to follow rules and spread it around, and that would appear to be a considerable number of selfish MNetters who are open that they are not going to follow the rules and thus we will continue to be locked down

I have great admiration for all front line staff be they medical, retail, teachers, bankers and everyone else who has to put up with the verbal shit they get day in day out from people who are quick to moan and slow to understand, we are in a worldwide pandemic, we are not the only country going through this, but I don’t see them moaning like we do

He really is a useless knobbo. I wonder if he was any better as a carpet salesman?

It's true, Gove was spectacularly awful but Willy has lowered the bar and expectations to the deepest, furthest recesses of hell.

It's hard to imagine someone as thick as him. He makes Kevin and Perry seem like mighty intellects.

Yes, who will be supervising the non-DBSed volunteers who are supervising the swabbing given that school staff are remote teaching or teaching keyworker kids or running a school? I wonder who will get the blame if we end up with a scandal about it.

we are not the only country going through this, but I don’t see them moaning like we do

How would you see it?

I hope that all secondary schools refuse to engage with this nonsense until jan 4th

LA guidance to,our maintained school staff has been to rest at Christmas, everyone is on their knees
LA staff are working during the holidays to support schools, in prep for January. Training, risk assessments, recruitment of staff and volunteers, equipment can't be planned until the 4th at the earliest.

Boris was a little vague about schools returning in January just then....although wants to keep them open, said they will have to follow the path of the virus spread.

That’s a pretty good ‘moan’ there Chloemol . The ‘Mumsnet Party’. Yes let’s. Want to be leader Chloemol ?

Gav's a twat of the highest order. My DD (and the rest of her Year 11) have been in school for 9 out of the last 30 school weeks due to isolation and Covid quarantine. I'm not sure Gav's got a Grade 4 in GCSE Maths as the three extra weeks he's delayed her GCSEs for next year aren't enough time to catch up with the 21 weeks she's missed. As for the testing - I'm not supposed to be laughing am I - I mean he's actually being serious isn't he.