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Churches somehow protect from COVID?

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Notthemessiah · 19/12/2020 17:03

Why am I only allowed to meet one person outdoors when my churchgoing nextdoor neighbours can still meet up with all of their religious friends and family indoors?

Fed up with the irrational exemptions given to religion. Why do people's non-provable beliefs give them special treatment and so put everyone else at increased risk?

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JohnMiddleNameRedactedSwanson · 19/12/2020 18:22

There’s no mixing outside of bubbles within the church and numbers are strictly limited. Like it or not the UK is not a secular state and clearly the government has taken the decision not to suspend worship before a major Christian festival.

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Notthemessiah · 19/12/2020 18:22

@DayBath

I take it you never celebrate Christmas then, you know, because it's not based a "rational" reason and all that.
Depends how you define 'celebrate' - I usually get together with family and friends as people in this country did long before the arrival of Christianity
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Notthemessiah · 19/12/2020 18:24

@DayBath

Why don't you just start a thread about your atheism instead of framing it as some sort of concern about covid measures? It's clear you just want to slag off religions so why don't you bugger off and do that instead of luring people in by pretending this is about the virus?
This is about special treatment for religion, during this virus this time, but it happens all the time as well.

And this is a thread I started so I'm not sure I should be the one to 'bugger off'

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CakeRequired · 19/12/2020 18:25

It's schools that should be closed from January. It's kids spreading it quickly. But no one cares about that.

Fieldofyellowflowers · 19/12/2020 18:25

I go to church and I have never felt safer when I'm there. Sanitizer stations everywhere, despite being a massive group of huggers we all stay 2 metres away from each other without fail. We don't sing. We wear masks at all times etc. There has been no outbreaks caused by my church, but my local schools/pubs etc have caused them.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 19/12/2020 18:27

Exactly. No rational reason then
You're absolutely right. But are you surprised? I'm not. I'm actually expecting the next the next announcement to be pulled from a game of Tory mad libs, they're so utterly nonsensical

DayBath · 19/12/2020 18:28

Fucking hell this is pitiful. You don't give a shit about the virus this is just a topic for you to hide behind because you're too scared to start a direct thread about your views on religion, just stop the masquerade.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 19/12/2020 18:30

Right, it's just been announced that many people thought they could see loved ones for 5 days and bow they can't at all.

Let people be angry for a night.

Wearywithteens · 19/12/2020 18:31

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Fieldofyellowflowers · 19/12/2020 18:32

@GlummyMcGlummerson

I'm angry, but I am not using my anger as an excuse to have a go at people from other faiths, or atheists, just because their views do not line up with mine.

JamesCracknelsBugle · 19/12/2020 18:32

What a bitter thread this is.

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Notthemessiah · 19/12/2020 18:34

@Wearywithteens

“Church is totally shit now, we sit where we are directed, far away from our families and friends, chatting is impossible from that distance. If you took two seconds to look up the way CofE actually implements worship now then you wouldn't need to post this.”

Totally agree with this and all the other church-going posters. My church has been very strict to the point that I’ve stopped going it’s so joyless.

Op I get your wider point about ‘why churches and not theatres’. You’re obviously pissed off. Everyone is. But being horrible to people for their private beliefs does NOT get to the decision makers, adds nothing to civilised debate and you just come across as a nasty intolerant person.

Hold on a sec. it was daybath who started calling me and others stupid and crackpots before I made a very mild jibe about assumptions. If anyone is being intolerant of dissenting opinions, it's her (and now you by the looks of it)
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Notthemessiah · 19/12/2020 18:36

[quote Fieldofyellowflowers]@GlummyMcGlummerson

I'm angry, but I am not using my anger as an excuse to have a go at people from other faiths, or atheists, just because their views do not line up with mine.[/quote]
No-one is having a go at your faith or beliefs (or at least not me anyway) - we are questioning why those beliefs should give you special treatment.

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DayBath · 19/12/2020 18:40

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LookToTreblesGoingTreblesGone · 19/12/2020 18:43

BlackeyedSusan
you are equally entitled to attend a church service if you so wish.

@Notthemessiah
But not a play. Why is that?

As has been explained. Theatres run for profit. They can't profit on minimal attendance, they'll go bust. Churches/Synagogues/Mosques etc don't run for profit.

At my church there is sanitiser on the door. You're signed in for track and trace. An usher points you to your seat. One way system, no singing etc as others have stated. And we've only had 2 services in church since March, everything else is online.
It's not even remotely similar to a pub/restaurant/gym/shop. It's far more stringent.

DayBath · 19/12/2020 18:43

No-one is having a go at your faith or beliefs (or at least not me anyway)

You seem to have selective amnesia, how about you re-read your posts.

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Notthemessiah · 19/12/2020 18:45

@DayBath

Hahaha, "a mild jibe", that's fucking CLASSIC Grin. Go say the same thing to a Muslim / Sikh etc and see how things go. Do report back to us won't you OP? Grin
ODFOD - you were the one who wrote a deeply unpleasant post because your feelings were hurt. If you can't see that tolerance goes both ways and you were the intolerant one here, then theres no help for you.
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Notthemessiah · 19/12/2020 18:46

@DayBath

No-one is having a go at your faith or beliefs (or at least not me anyway)

You seem to have selective amnesia, how about you re-read your posts.

Well you did have a go at my 'crackpot' beliefs first - you reap what you sow and all that.
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DayBath · 19/12/2020 18:46

So why aren't you here having a go at support groups OP, hmmm?

They are allowed to continue but I suppose it's less acceptable to slag off anorexics or alcoholics anonymous isn't it? Don't you want to step up and complain about the massive privilege they have too?

GlummyMcGlummerson · 19/12/2020 18:46

FFS leave the OP alone. She asked a valid question.

KindnessCrusader · 19/12/2020 18:46

If you'd like to go along I'm sure your local church would love to welcome you Grin

PaperMonster · 19/12/2020 18:47

I’m much safer in church than I am in my college workplace. We’re having a couple of outside services over Christmas.

DayBath · 19/12/2020 18:49

@GlummyMcGlummerson

FFS leave the OP alone. She asked a valid question.
No she didn't, that's the whole point.
MrsMiaWallis · 19/12/2020 18:51

I'm really looking forward to going to church over Christmas. You are welcome to do the same OP.

lavenderlou · 19/12/2020 18:52

Church has definitely been the place I've visited that has the most safety precautions in place. It's also the only place that is still taking written names and phone numbers for contact tracing. I do think they need to carefully restrict numbers though. My church is doing a limited number of tickets for Christmas services.