Churches somehow protect from COVID?

[Notthemessiah]

Why am I only allowed to meet one person outdoors when my churchgoing nextdoor neighbours can still meet up with all of their religious friends and family indoors?

Fed up with the irrational exemptions given to religion. Why do people's non-provable beliefs give them special treatment and so put everyone else at increased risk?

@DayBath you just said everything I was going to!

One way it’s nothing like schools is that numbers are severely restricted. At my church no more than about 30% of the normal congregation can attend and the rest watch online. We have to book in advance, the seating plan is recorded, everyone is masked the whole time, the musicians are behind a plexiglass screen and the room is treated with an antiviral fogger the night before. There are no refreshments afterwards and people keep a good distance away while chatting out in the car park.

It is nothing like going round to a friend’s house for a cup of tea.

Because people's faith can also be their lifeline. Not me but I'm not one to judge.

So fed up of people looking over their fences and saying "They shouldn't have that because I can't have it". What horrible nation we've turned into

support groups all of which are locked down.

Support groups are not locked down.

Pubs were one of the worst spreaders because, shock, drunk people do not socially distance.

Just let people get on with it and stop trying to control the one tiny bit of comfort they have just because you're jealous and bitter. Crabs in a fucking bucket springs to mind.

Interestingly this is the most unpalatable thing I have read all day ...

Regarding my own previous comment - I was very specific. Outside the religious building I can see from my home, which happens to be a church, people have been mingling. Unmasked. Not in family groups only.

I do not feel jealous or bitter towards them. Usually I like seeing people going to and from church; it lends a pleasing rhythm to a Sunday. And I have no interest in or intention of 'trying to control' them.

My Church is the most Covid secure place i have been. They've also just sent an email round informing us tomorrows service is cancelled.

Shops claim they are but in reality aren't making sure people are 2m apart, or ensuring trollies/baskets are sanitised.

@daybath. I've assumed nothing and I'm not the person making jokes about anything (if you actually want to read my posts) - that's some of the others here. You though are the only person making insults.

And frankly, I don't care how the CFE or any other place of worship manages things - the fact is that people should not be exempted or allowed special treatment purely because of what non-provable things they believe, both now or at any other time.

@PoulePouletteEternellement

Outside mixing is allowed in tiers 1, 2 and 3. You don't have to be religious to stand about in a playing field talking to someone so I fail to see your disdain for church goers on that basis. If you're jealous call your friends and go for a walk with them.

I don’t see why churches can open but theatres can’t in many areas.

[quote Notthemessiah]@daybath. I've assumed nothing and I'm not the person making jokes about anything (if you actually want to read my posts) - that's some of the others here. You though are the only person making insults.

And frankly, I don't care how the CFE or any other place of worship manages things - the fact is that people should not be exempted or allowed special treatment purely because of what non-provable things they believe, both now or at any other time.[/quote]
Explain the exemptions and special treatments? There are literally none, have you even read the guidelines for worship? Churches are operating with more safety measures than shops or restaurants.

@Comefromaway

I don’t see why churches can open but theatres can’t in many areas.

Agree with you there but many theatres would go bankrupt if they were forced to run at 20% capacity, so perhaps it's better they get government grants to see them through or the lower ticket sales would cripple them.

you are equally entitled to attend a church service if you so wish.

If you’re sensible and not selfish, you’d understand and stay away from people other than who you actually live with

How you can’t understand that the government is under immense pressure from various groups that are selfish and will not follow rules limiting contact. You’ll also note that the term was not churches but rather something along the lines of religious congregation (I can’t flip screens or what I’ve written disappears). But it was not churches - they were to all religions.

So if you could be more caring for your fellow man, not focus on yourself and ensure you act sensibly to avoid mixing with people, you’ll be doing your part rather than why can that person do that but I can’t or let’s hope you’re not really selfish and think, why can that person do that and I can’t, so I’m going to xyz anyway.

Good grief.

I give up.

[quote DayBath]@PoulePouletteEternellement

Outside mixing is allowed in tiers 1, 2 and 3. You don't have to be religious to stand about in a playing field talking to someone so I fail to see your disdain for church goers on that basis. If you're jealous call your friends and go for a walk with them.[/quote]
Not in tier 4 though

(That was not a response to the post above mine!)

@BlackeyedSusan

you are equally entitled to attend a church service if you so wish.

But not a play. Why is that?

I'll be taking my grandad to church on Christmas Eve. He can't wait for a beautiful Carol service and a bit of normality.

@Notthemessiah plays are not faith based.

Although plays have happened in my tier 2 area so you may be able to depending on where you live.

BTW I actually agree with you about plays, it's the same as church in terms of layout and if we don't support the arts we'll lose them. My "faith" answer is just the objective reason as to why places of worship have different rules

[quote GlummyMcGlummerson]@Notthemessiah plays are not faith based.

Although plays have happened in my tier 2 area so you may be able to depending on where you live.[/quote]
Exactly. No rational reason then.

@Notthemessiah, no, you are allowed to meet one person at a time outdoors in tier 4.

I take it you never celebrate Christmas then, you know, because it's not based a "rational" reason and all that.

Why don't you just start a thread about your atheism instead of framing it as some sort of concern about covid measures? It's clear you just want to slag off religions so why don't you bugger off and do that instead of luring people in by pretending this is about the virus?