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To think it's fine to let the dog lick plates in the dishwasher?

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Randomtasks · 14/12/2020 17:12

Dog is only a puppy so it's only just become an issue but he likes to lick the dirty plates etc that I've put in the dishwasher.

It doesn't bother me at all, they are getting washed after all but DH tells me it's rather gross. Is it?!

I'd normally ask my mum this kind of thing as she's shit hot on manners but her dogs have always done a dishwasher pre wash!

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KiposWonderbeasts · 15/12/2020 09:32

@LolaSmiles

Fuckertyfuckmcfuck There has to be dozens of those threads. It's a mumsnet rule.

I've been walking dogs for years and am yet to have seen a dog eat someone's picnic but on here it happens all the time. Then again in my experience inconsiderate owners are a minority and I might encounter a particularly irritating one once a month (usually someone with a smaller dog who is poorly trained and they don't do anything about it because the dog is small).
On here some posters swear blind that they are forever being charged at by feral dogs, jumped all over, covered in mud, etc. Or they apparently can't take their child to the park due to the abundance of dangerous and out of control dogs, but in a funny MN way they keep going anyway.It's like another world or some people like to speak in hyperbole.

Happens every time I meet friends in the park.

Since we’ve only been allowed to meet in parks for flipping ages, twice a week I meet friends for coffee or lunch. We sit on adjacent benches and chat, in the massive local park.

It’s very popular with dog owners, and the majority are off lead. I don’t think a single meet up has happened that a dog hasn’t tried to pinch a biscuit or sausage roll. I’ve only lost one sandwich, normally I grab it out of the way quick enough.

The owners catch up eventually and call the dog back (varying levels of success), but yes, dogs frequently try to pinch food.

MrsMiaWallis · 15/12/2020 09:33

@SaintWilfred

What's more amazing to me is the level of emotion aimed at people who allow this. Posters who appear to be kept awake worrying about some stranger's dog they will never meet, who may or not be licking a plate they will never see, in a dishwasher they will never use. Bonkers.
Thats Mumsnet for you these days! The rage!
unicornparty · 15/12/2020 09:34

Its grim and bad dog manners.

MrsMiaWallis · 15/12/2020 09:35

Yep, I've had dogs for 35 years and I've never seen one eat a picnic. I think I've been jumped up at 2 or 3 times. The vast majority of dogs don't seem to be interested in random mumsnetters and just want to get on with their lives!

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 15/12/2020 09:38

Mum used to have forks /spoons for dishing out the dogs food.

She once spotted my sister eating with the dogs fork and told her off - mum was quite funny and was saying ‘the poor dog, don’t let her see, eoooooooowwwww...’

SchrodingersImmigrant · 15/12/2020 09:40

The owners catch up eventually and call the dog back (varying levels of success), but yes, dogs frequently try to pinch food.

Even thoigh that I am with others on never seeing random dog stealing food like this, I agree that this highlighted part is shit ownership. People who don't have properly trained dogs shouldn't let them off lead.

cologne4711 · 15/12/2020 09:45

[quote SurferRona]**@cologne4711* Me too. Bleugh. I hope dog-friendly pubs and cafes don't think this is ok!

Mind you, I know cats are much cleaner than dogs but I'm not keen on them sitting on worktops and counters either.*

Really? These same cats which lick their bums A LOT, and cat poo is at least a factor worse than dog poo....yeuch Xmas Envy

Crocadilla · 15/12/2020 09:51

Mine try and like a PP said, it's a dog perk Grin but I am careful the one culprit never ingests something that might disagree with him.

I'm not worried about the hygiene aspect. Our youngest DC was incredibly poorly as a 5 day old newborn with a severe chest infection which required ventilation. She recovered but GP and consultant told me to fully expect bad asthma and recurrent chest infections.

She grew up surrounded by dogs and other pets on the farm and I genuinely think mucking about with animals and being outside so much has truly helped her immune system. She hasn't had one hint of asthma or chest infection since and very rarely gets a cold.

I think hang ups about hygiene have had a massive, negative impact on our immune systems. Antibac spraying everything in sight and now alcohol hand gel left, right and centre. Sorry but that's a 100x worse for our health than letting your dogs lick a plate which is about to go through an hour long 65 degree wash! Oh and having been on the receiving ends of bites from dogs and cats (through work), the only ones that started getting infected were the cat ones..

littledeborah · 15/12/2020 09:51

oh my go, that's disgusting, don't let your dog lick your dishes, only if they're not washed. Your dishwasher could have chemicals in it, disgraceful! Shock

unicornpower · 15/12/2020 09:52

I don't let him lick the plates in the dishwasher but if I have had some buttery toast on a plate or something really yummy (and safe) then I put the plate on the floor for him. The plates are being washed so why not?!

Woofbloodywoof · 15/12/2020 09:58

Not too fussed about the odd plate in a dishwasher being licked, our dogs will do it if I forget to shut the dishwasher. However, those of you who let your dogs eat fatty trays etc. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON’T LET THEM DO THIS. Not because it’s gross/bad manners etc but because excessive fat is incredibly bad for dogs and can easily cause pancreatitis and other stomach issues which are often fatal. My friend’s dog almost died eating the fatty remains of a roast dinner - and with Christmas upon us, there will be a lot of fat around.

Sorry didn’t have time to read whole thread but saw first hand the danger and expense of letting a hound go mad with a roasting tray and felt a public service announcement coming on!!GrinGlitterball

MrsMiaWallis · 15/12/2020 09:59

@littledeborah

oh my go, that's disgusting, don't let your dog lick your dishes, only if they're not washed. Your dishwasher could have chemicals in it, disgraceful! Shock
I doubt they'd be interested in licking clean plates 🤣
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/12/2020 12:41

ILoveYoga
Thirdly, how will you dog know the difference between clean and dirty dishes unless he gives it a lick?

Miss, miss, please, miss, I know, miss....

A dog has between 100 and 300 million scent receptors, depending on breed. (Humans have about 5 million.) Plates with food on them smell of food, and clean ones don't.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/12/2020 12:43

Even a labrador can tell! And their entire ambition is globosity.

JovialNickname · 15/12/2020 13:18

I'm sorry but that's so incredibly disgusting! I hope you let people know you do this before they eat or drink anything at yours.

Gobbycop · 15/12/2020 13:19

Not a habit I'd want imprinted on a dog.

WiddlinDiddlin · 15/12/2020 13:36

There really is no link between being permitted to lick plates in some contexts, to stealing food from picnickers.

Dogs are very context specific learners... if you teach your dog he can lick plates in the dishwasher but not when they are on the floor, or table, thats what your dog will do.. therefore a plate on a blanket on the grass is likely to remain unlicked.

One of mine must polish every plate, however she would not TOUCH a plate that still has food on it.. the context is wrong.

Another of mine would not lower himself to lick a plate ever, it is not worth his effort. However if he was off lead and came across a surprised picnicker, he absolutely would have it away on his toes with a sausage roll or scotch egg, he is an excellent opportunistic thief (and as a result is not offlead anywhere one might find picnics!)

This context specific learning is also why its very hard to teach dogs NOT to raid picnics. We teach them not to take food from our plates as we sit on the sofa, or at the table, inside our homes or occasionally, in our gardens. Thats a very limited context.

Food in a tupperware box, on the ground, in the field or park a dog associates with walks is a TOTALLY different context, and likely one most people have not trained their dog with specifically, and so the opportunistic scavenger, which is what a dog is (not a hunter, a scavenger!) is highly likely to take that opportunity.

I work very hard on teaching my dogs not to take food from the ground outdoors, but for most dogs you'd need to teach a behaviour in multiple locations, levels of distraction, variety of context, before the dog will generalise that behaviour to apply 'everywhere' and it is always far harder to teach a 'don't do this' than a 'do do THIS'.

MrsMiaWallis · 15/12/2020 13:37

@JovialNickname

I'm sorry but that's so incredibly disgusting! I hope you let people know you do this before they eat or drink anything at yours.
I don't have fussy non dog lovers in my house ever, so it's not an issue.
ElizaLaLa · 15/12/2020 14:29

It doesn't bother me at all, they are getting washed after all but DH tells me it's rather gross. Is it?!

I'd normally ask my mum this kind of thing as she's shit hot on manners but her dogs have always done a dishwasher pre wash

That's fucking disgusting.

CtrlU · 15/12/2020 14:32

Vile

SchrodingersImmigrant · 15/12/2020 14:34

Some of the takeaways people are happily munching on are much more "vile" and unhygienic than this...

Spidey66 · 15/12/2020 14:46

@Crocadilla

Mine try and like a PP said, it's a dog perk Grin but I am careful the one culprit never ingests something that might disagree with him.

I'm not worried about the hygiene aspect. Our youngest DC was incredibly poorly as a 5 day old newborn with a severe chest infection which required ventilation. She recovered but GP and consultant told me to fully expect bad asthma and recurrent chest infections.

She grew up surrounded by dogs and other pets on the farm and I genuinely think mucking about with animals and being outside so much has truly helped her immune system. She hasn't had one hint of asthma or chest infection since and very rarely gets a cold.

I think hang ups about hygiene have had a massive, negative impact on our immune systems. Antibac spraying everything in sight and now alcohol hand gel left, right and centre. Sorry but that's a 100x worse for our health than letting your dogs lick a plate which is about to go through an hour long 65 degree wash! Oh and having been on the receiving ends of bites from dogs and cats (through work), the only ones that started getting infected were the cat ones..

I have found my person. My views 100% on how having a certain amount of germs helps boost your immunity, and how anti bacs can destroy it, and exactly why imo I rarely get infections.
Spidey66 · 15/12/2020 14:50

Oh and my dog doesnt steal food from picnickers. She will occasionally look ut us when were eating and say "look how cute i am, now give me food" but actually she doesnt steal any. And certainly not from randoms in the park, though wouldnt say no to a cheese sandwich if offered.

peachescariad · 15/12/2020 15:22

It's a yes....cavapoo can hear the dishwasher door opening a mile away. His germs are washed off in the cycle the same as everyone else's.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/12/2020 16:29

I have a feeling that cheese, being made of milk, is also meant to be poison for dogs: a lot are said to be lactose-intolerant so it would make sense. On the other hand, they do tend to think it is the food of the gods.

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