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To say it's QUEUE, not QUE?

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ImWearingReallyJudgyPants · 02/12/2020 20:12

Every time I see "que" on here, all I can think about is Manuel in Fawlty Towers.

It's a sodding QUEUE.

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Emeraldshamrock · 04/12/2020 16:25

@Londonmummy66 Thank you.
I better not post on here anymore. Didn't realise you needed perfect spelling to post on MN Please continue to post Rosebel
I recognise your username as one of the lovely posters on here.

Rosebel · 04/12/2020 23:02

Thanks Emerald 😊

Cygne · 04/12/2020 23:28

Niche one for me but my newborn had jaundice recently and I saw so many posts on forums saying “my baby is jaundice” rather than “is jaundiced” - obviously coming from a mishearing

Not sure about that. You hear people talking about a child who "is ASD" or "is ADHD". You can't be a disorder which is what these people are claiming.

I also get bugged by people talking about someone who "has mental health" when they mean "has mental illness". How can having health be a bad thing?

Pegsonstrings · 05/12/2020 00:13

Their and there, and would of, when it should be would have...

FanGurrl · 05/12/2020 00:25

I've thought of another one...... People referring to getting their dogs spade. Seriously???

SirMoanalot · 05/12/2020 00:26

Q

PrettyLittleBrownEyedMe · 05/12/2020 00:46

I also get bugged by people talking about someone who "has mental health" when they mean "has mental illness". How can having health be a bad thing?

Similarly - 'I have anger management' (That's great! Good for you!)

PrettyLittleBrownEyedMe · 05/12/2020 00:51

Niche one for me but my newborn had jaundice recently and I saw so many posts on forums saying “my baby is jaundice” rather than “is jaundiced” - obviously coming from a mishearing

This is becoming VERY common. Almost everyone seems to think it's 'that view is bias' rather than 'biased', and you also see 'mash potato', 'pack lunch' etc

Emeraldshamrock · 05/12/2020 00:57

also get bugged by people talking about someone who "has mental health" when they mean "has mental illness". How can having health be a bad thing?

Similarly - 'I have anger management' (That's great! Good

They are contradictory though words like issues/problems are included when describing those.
Mental illness is not very pc.

Tidyhousefornow · 05/12/2020 12:57

I'm another whose spelling and grammar isn't great. Reading threads like this make me realised how judged I am.

Does it really matter? I think it says more about you than it does about the person making a mistake. It's fair enough to be put out or annoyed, but maybe don't come on a forum and air that. All kinds of people will be reading the thread. It doesn't make us feel great.

KarenMarlow3 · 05/12/2020 13:05

I haven't read the whole thread so this one may have been mentioned.
People annoy me if they confuse 'less' and 'fewer.' It happens so often. 'Less' is for an uncountable noun such as water, sand, rain. Fewer is for countable nouns, such as 'fewer people, fewer pens, fewer shops.'
Rant over now, I'll shut up.

KarenMarlow3 · 05/12/2020 13:11

Does it really matter? I think it says more about you than it does about the person making a mistake. It's fair enough to be put out or annoyed, but maybe don't come on a forum and air that. All kinds of people will be reading the thread. It doesn't make us feel great
Actually, I think it does matter. To me, it is an indication of declining levels of education in the UK. I just think it's a pity, that's all. I have read comments made by my granddaughter's teachers which have grammatical or spelling errors in them, (advise instead of advice), which make me even more irritated about the general level of education.

Emeraldshamrock · 05/12/2020 13:20

Actually, I think it does matter. To me, it is an indication of declining levels of education in the UK. I just think it's a pity, that's all
It isn't just about education there are many different circumstances in life that affect people differently.
I think it says more about you than it does about the person making a mistake. It's fair enough to be put out or annoyed, but maybe don't come on a forum and air that. All kinds of people will be reading the thread. It doesn't make us feel great
I agree it is small minded to judge especially if the OP needs real help and educated professional pp's refuse to read on the basis of it not to their standard. I think it is pity people aren't kinder and more open minded.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 05/12/2020 13:30

@KarenMarlow3

I haven't read the whole thread so this one may have been mentioned. People annoy me if they confuse 'less' and 'fewer.' It happens so often. 'Less' is for an uncountable noun such as water, sand, rain. Fewer is for countable nouns, such as 'fewer people, fewer pens, fewer shops.' Rant over now, I'll shut up.
Grin
Evvyjb · 05/12/2020 13:31

@KarenMarlow3

Does it really matter? I think it says more about you than it does about the person making a mistake. It's fair enough to be put out or annoyed, but maybe don't come on a forum and air that. All kinds of people will be reading the thread. It doesn't make us feel great Actually, I think it does matter. To me, it is an indication of declining levels of education in the UK. I just think it's a pity, that's all. I have read comments made by my granddaughter's teachers which have grammatical or spelling errors in them, (advise instead of advice), which make me even more irritated about the general level of education.
I would just like to say, as an English teacher, that I feel I am fighting against a tide. I am one of two in my department which insist upon "quotation" instead of "quote" as a noun! We try, we really do, but the weight of everything else seems to be against us! (I frequently explain the s/c verb/noun to various people)
SchrodingersImmigrant · 05/12/2020 13:32

@Tidyhousefornow

I'm another whose spelling and grammar isn't great. Reading threads like this make me realised how judged I am.

Does it really matter? I think it says more about you than it does about the person making a mistake. It's fair enough to be put out or annoyed, but maybe don't come on a forum and air that. All kinds of people will be reading the thread. It doesn't make us feel great.

There are threads about absolutely anything possible on MN. There are moans about weight, partners, neighbour, business, hair, products, toes, so why not moan about grammar. It's just one another thing someone wants to discuss.
Emeraldshamrock · 05/12/2020 13:38

Threads on SPAG are as fair as any other.
You can learn from them.
It is not very nice to pull someone up on a separate thread the majority don't do that so entitled to have a little teeth gritting rant on a SPAG thread.

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/12/2020 14:06

@KarenMarlow3

Does it really matter? I think it says more about you than it does about the person making a mistake. It's fair enough to be put out or annoyed, but maybe don't come on a forum and air that. All kinds of people will be reading the thread. It doesn't make us feel great Actually, I think it does matter. To me, it is an indication of declining levels of education in the UK. I just think it's a pity, that's all. I have read comments made by my granddaughter's teachers which have grammatical or spelling errors in them, (advise instead of advice), which make me even more irritated about the general level of education.
I agree.
CaptainMyCaptain · 05/12/2020 14:07

Sorry I do not agree with that I meant to quote something else.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 05/12/2020 14:08

My current bugbear is "draws" for drawers. There are some seriously illiterate folk out there.

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/12/2020 14:08

Actually, I think it does matter. To me, it is an indication of declining levels of education in the UK. I just think it's a pity, that's all. I have read comments made by my granddaughter's teachers which have grammatical or spelling errors in them, (advise instead of advice), which make me even more irritated about the general level of education.
I agree with this.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 05/12/2020 14:12

It matters because you lose shades of meaning. So much context and clarity is disappearing the more our language gets degraded and we lose the endings of more and more words. It's like everything merging into one vague expression.

We'll doubtless be left with "meh".

KarenMarlow3 · 05/12/2020 14:14

I don't make judgements about individuals whose spelling and grammar are less than perfect. It isn't their fault, they have been let down by the education system.
I know that most teachers use grammar correctly, but it galls me to come across a teacher in charge of my granddaughter who is making basic errors.

Emeraldshamrock · 05/12/2020 14:49

@KarenMarlow3 A teacher should know the correct spelling.
Do you think it is online reading too. As DC we read more even grown ups seem to spend lots online over reading?
I encourage DD to read on her kindle she is very good at reading & spelling despite having extra educational needs.

lazylinguist · 05/12/2020 16:54

It matters because you lose shades of meaning. So much context and clarity is disappearing the more our language gets degraded and we lose the endings of more and more words. It's like everything merging into one vague expression.

I don't think that's even slightly true. As much is added to the language as is lost from it. People have always simplified language in informal contexts. People have always made mistakes. Common errors or misuses of language have always had a tendency to become the norm. Words have always slid out of use. New words have always been coined, adopted from other languages or gone from being slang to normal language.

One of the documents I read when I was studying the transition of Late Latin into Old Early French in the historical linguistics part of my degree course was a glossary written by monks, of spellings of Latin words or bits of grammar that they were sick and tired of people getting wrong. Many of those errors were the part of the slide into what became French.

Language evolves. Nothing you can do about it. Your 'correct' English now is merely a stage in the constant slide. It doesn't mean that we will lose complexity and richness. Language is as complex and nuanced as it ever was.

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