to think that camouflage clothing on children is in poor taste?

[chisigirl]

Am I just old and grumpy or is it reasonable to believe that young children should NOT be wearing camouflage clothing?! I can't stand the stuff but my DS's (4 and 2) have just been given rather a lot of it as gifts! What do you think?

custy, that is Rule No 1 of mumsnet....you find yourself all on your own defending a viewpoint against a hoard of sneering types who only post when they're in the majority...and then a month later, you see someone else posting exactly what you posted and nobody bats an eyelid, and you think "well where were you when I was being savage, then?, eh??"

I dont mind them going into schools along with other careers people. What I object to is them aggressively recruiting among unemployed youngsters, with promises of how much they can earn.

Donk...erm...camouflage only works as such in the correct environments, you know ....hence dh having his different styles....so, mostKids camouflage clothing is not going to effectively help your child to vanish!

Nighty, yes that would be unethical...I mean, it's a blatant lie about how much they earn, we all know that!

I don't mind them going into schools - but i mind them selling it as an extended outward bound holiday with free quad biking and zip lining.

Try going to the Playmobil fun park, with your child dressed in jeans and an orange T shirt. Now that is camouflage - he will disappear in an instant into the hordes of identically dressed children.

is it, 3? I didnt know.
They used to say 350 pounds a week, in 1997, when the kids on teh dole were getting around 50 pounds.

Blu, et al...but in a way it is...unless they are stupid enough to get tied down to a girlfriend/fiancee/wife when young, that is.....

I must admit, I personally don't think that a bit of army training and experience would do any harm to most youngsters...especially teh unemployed kind that is unemployed because they don't have any brilliant offers in sight....It teaches discipline amongst many other things....it's most certainly not all about war...

3, NO - the point is, they recruit in areas of high unemployment. The kids are not hopeless - they just can't get jobs, and the army takes advantage of that.

Nighty, but their pay is for everyday of the year...theoretical, which means they could be working all of them...now that rarely happens...and also they are mend to do a lot of work for it, too....it's not for doing nothing...however, I doubt it's that much when you start...but might be wrong, of course...the system has changed so much over the past few years....

hm....well...but they just do the usual recruiting stuff...
anywya, isn't it better to do somehting then nothing....?

hmm, why does that not surprise me

Plastering the post office with recruitment posters? No other career tries so hard to attract the dole queue's attention.

hm...personally I would prefer my boys to join the army then working in a fast food restaurant or something like that (as a career now, not just the odd job to tide over)

I'd rather they did anything legal than join the army
I'd disinherit them (from all my debts.)

well...with recent political devellopements...the army is finding it possibly a bit harder to recruit right now .....
see they have such an easier time at times when there is no war, because people see it as a free ticket to travel the world...of course, when there is a war the danger of actually having to do teh job you signed up for is much higher...so, less attractive, I suppose....

got it in one . I dont trust TB and his ilk with my conscience.

Well...I would be a complete hypocryt if I thought like that...but no, I know my dh loves army life, and he generally enjoys the Job...hence him just trying to get an extension for another 2 years (as his 22 years service are up in april)

gute Nacht.

Gute Nacht...Bett klingt gut

I dress my son in camoflage as he loves everything army. By not allowing him to dress in anything camoflage I would be inhibiting his way of expressing himself and I think it would be heavy handed of me to impose my views on him like this.

As a treat he is allowed go to the army surplus store and choose child's sized versions of military gear, so he has a helmet, a waistcoat with lots of ammunition pockets and an army water bottle. He loves all of this and will often wear the waistcoat when we go out so erm....you can say camoflage figures big in our lives.

However, I don't like camoflage stuff with slogans and rarely buy them. I also try to avoid dressing ds in camoflage from head to foot and make sure he wears non army outfits as well to balance things out.

I am not too keen on skull imagery either, but don't ban it 100%. I am constantly surprised how much skull and knife imagery crops up on cute 'pirate' clothing for young boys, including the up market, more expensive labels.

I never ever buy clothing with negative messages on them - ie words like 'idiot' 'stupid' 'lazy', Primark is full of this sort of stuff for boys which I find is a great shame.

I also have one strict rule. When we go to church, ds cannot wear anything army. This seems to be a general unspoken rule amongst all parents at our church. I explain to my son that church means peace and forgivemness, so it's not a good place to wear army clothing, even if soldiers are not bad men (which of course they aren't).

chisigirl;
i think its ok.
why dont you like it? (sorry only read the op)

yabu

I'm confused.
A "real" waistcoat with pockets for "real" ammunition is ok.
A cute pirate tshirt with a skull and crossbones flag print is not.

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What about dressing little tots in footballer kit? Not just England kit, but the latest expensive togs for the local top side.
I don't really care how people express their individuality thru their children, but there's not actually much to truly admire about footballers, their lives and partners splashed all over tabloidsd, the obsessive fanbase around them, the obessessive media coverage, and the marketing forces that exploit it.