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Don't feel very intelligent, confidence issue

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Insertfunnyusername1 · 29/11/2020 14:20

I think there are different kinds of intelligence for sure, for instance i'm gifted in languages and have a degree in them, I enjoy creative writing and I work as a Maths teacher.

However, I seem to lack knowledge and don't read a lot. I have zero interest in Philosophy or reading anything 'highbrow'.
I don't have much interest in politics. I have a general idea of main historical events but again couldn't give an in-depth explanation of anything.

I see other girls poring over Kafka or Camus and I just find it pretentious.
I like reading magazines, Heat, Closer etc.
I read the news a lot and have an understanding of current affairs, but I like reading the Daily Mail.

I have a boyfriend and sometimes when he makes references I have no idea what he's talking about. He will ask, "What's the name of the guy who invented X ?" or, "Have you read the book on X subject ?"

And I will just have no idea. Or, he will tell me about a historical event and I will just nod because I won't understand it at all. I tend to say things that come across as dumb and he laughs, I just feel a bit insecure.

The same with cooking too. I can cook, i'm no chef but I can do all the basics, he's very into cooking and will say, "Oh it would be better if you used X or if you bought X to cook with.", or he will have to show me how to do things.

I'm decent enough at my hobbies but not amazing at anything. He will show me artists on Instagram and say, "She's an amazing artist" and stuff, but he would never consider me an artist.

I shouldn't feel like this. I'm great as I am and i've worked hard, why do I feel stupid ? Just want to boost my confidence in this area. I'm finding that i'm trying to read/watch things in order to have more interesting discussion with him.

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ViciousJackdaw · 29/11/2020 15:11

He sounds like a pretentious tosser.

About the overdraft - if it 'scares' him then he's obviously never know what it is like to have to scrimp and save. To live on limited means. I would wonder if he has any empathy for those who are truly poor.

As for his ex, she sounds like an insufferable snob too. Like the type of poster you get here who thinks Coronation Street is beneath them (but if it was Køronation Street with Sven Barlow, they'd be all over it...).

I would reconsider this relationship entirely. It seems as though you cannot be yourself and that's awful.

Albuswulfricbriandumbledore · 29/11/2020 15:13

Mensa member here with a tested IQ of 147 tbh I'm a right fairy I've no idea what's going on with anything. I've no real intelligence when I was tested I just knew the answers but didn't know why I knew them. But I have very very high levels of emotional intelligence and can see several sides to arguments and I always know what people are going to say which annoys everyone. I lean towards abstract solutions to problems because I think the others are too obvious and therefore have already been discounted which means I often overlook simple solutions. Intelligence is unique and I would love to be good at maths I overthink everything.

isseywith4vampirecats · 29/11/2020 15:14

Your boyfriend is the one eating away at your confidence it makes him look good to steer conversations towards stuff you are not into, my OH is brilliant at maths (PHD level) im not i have read widely from trashy novels to the classics he never reads books other than engineering maths books so each of us has our strength and our weakness but neither of us makes the other feel bad for not being good at the other persons strength, luckily though we both have music tastes that are not in line with each other we have bands and music we both like and a love of motorbikes so have enough in common to have decent conversations

sandragreen · 29/11/2020 15:15

see other girls poring over Kafka or Camus and I just find it pretentious.
I like reading magazines, Heat, Closer etc.
I read the news a lot and have an understanding of current affairs, but I like reading the Daily Mail.

Why do you think people with different reading habits from you as pretentious?

And don't get me started on the Daily Mail.......

I agree with PP - your boyfriend doesn't sound very nice and you aren't really compatible if he makes you feel inferior.

Insertfunnyusername1 · 29/11/2020 15:20

Yes indeed I shouldn't have made that comment. It's definitely not everyone, just thinking of this small number of pretentious people I knew who mocked others for going on Facebook and listening to chart music.

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Insertfunnyusername1 · 29/11/2020 15:22

Laughing my head off at Sven Barlow !

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LoveandHateWhatABeautifulComb · 29/11/2020 15:24

Like the type of poster you get here who thinks Coronation Street is beneath them

I don't see any problem with having standards. I wouldn't watch Coronation St if you paid me, it's a steaming pile of aggressively brain dead horseshit.

And OP, thinking about it, if you were so convinced you were just perfect the way you are, you wouldn't be posting this. Maybe you should read up about politics and history and have a better understanding of the world around you, and ditch the DM and heat for a real paper and, pushing the boat out, an actual book?

SchrodingersImmigrant · 29/11/2020 15:27

this small number of pretentious people I knew who mocked others for going on Facebook
Are they all on MN😂

ViciousJackdaw · 29/11/2020 15:29

I don't see any problem with having standards. I wouldn't watch Coronation St if you paid me, it's a steaming pile of aggressively brain dead horseshit

There is saying that it (or any other show) is brain dead and then there is saying it is for people who are 'brain dead'. Two different things. You can dislike something without looking down on people who do like it.

LoveandHateWhatABeautifulComb · 29/11/2020 15:36

There is saying that it (or any other show) is brain dead and then there is saying it is for people who are 'brain dead'. Two different things. You can dislike something without looking down on people who do like it

You can also dislike something AND look down a little bit on those who do like it, and why not? I DO look down a bit on people who love Mrs Browns Boys, for example, or who watch 20 hours of soaps a week.
At least I'm honest about it.

Pollypocket89 · 29/11/2020 15:39

Yes, thank god you're an honest snob Confused

LoveandHateWhatABeautifulComb · 29/11/2020 15:41

I don't think that I'm a snob, but if it makes you feel better......

We all look down on people who do/watch/enjoy etc things that we think are awful. Pretend you don't if you like, no-one believes you (except the similarly self -deluded)

flaviaritt · 29/11/2020 15:45

I see other girls poring over Kafka or Camus and I just find it pretentious.

Have you read Kafka or Camus? If you don’t like them, fine, but maybe the other “girls” do. Do you think they’re pretentious or the writers, out of interest?

Insertfunnyusername1 · 29/11/2020 15:49

I find the books pretentious, too heavy yet flowery, not the readers.

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flaviaritt · 29/11/2020 15:51

Right. But if you have both read Kafka and are an adequate judge of whether Kafka (for example) has written in an overly florid style that isn’t justified by the content, you must (ergo) understand what he’s saying? And therefore you can’t be stupid.

namechangetheworld · 29/11/2020 15:57

Christ, he sounds insufferably pretentious. And insecure, if he constantly feels the need to demonstrate how intelligent and cultured he is. You sound too good for him OP.

WellQualifiedToRepresentTheLBC · 29/11/2020 15:59

@Insertfunnyusername1

I do get a sense of pretentiousness from him, maybe i'm just being too harsh.
He just sounds annoying op.

I am one of those people who is broadly well read on "high brow" topics, and typically have an opinion on most things, love my Camus, can whip up obscure cocktails and so on... but I have friends who love to watch reality TV while they eat oven chips and drink whatever wine was on offer etc... and they are ace, and have loads to offer, they're just different to me. When I go to theirs I curl up on the sofa with a brew and watch the Bachelor and it is wonderful.

I certainly don't try to educate them on my areas of interest. Because that's all they are, areas of interest. No one area of interest is better than the other. To believe anything else is pure snobbery.

Are you sure this guy isn't just a snob? I can't stand people lecturing me on things like this. Part of it is that when I was much younger, I was probably more like him. Then I grew up and realized I was a crashing bore in the vein of Hyacinth Bucket. Just slightly more hip, which excuses nothing.

Ilovesugar · 29/11/2020 16:03

I think you need to care less and stop comparing yourself to others. It only leads to self doubt and being miserable

EmmaGrundyForPM · 29/11/2020 16:11

OP please read Rebecca Solnit's book "Men Explain Things To Me"

Then lend it to you bf.

Pollypocket89 · 29/11/2020 16:29

No, I don't look down on people who like different things to me, 'but if that makes you feel better...' about your own doing so, crack on.

Bluntness100 · 29/11/2020 16:40

@Albuswulfricbriandumbledore

Mensa member here with a tested IQ of 147 tbh I'm a right fairy I've no idea what's going on with anything. I've no real intelligence when I was tested I just knew the answers but didn't know why I knew them. But I have very very high levels of emotional intelligence and can see several sides to arguments and I always know what people are going to say which annoys everyone. I lean towards abstract solutions to problems because I think the others are too obvious and therefore have already been discounted which means I often overlook simple solutions. Intelligence is unique and I would love to be good at maths I overthink everything.
This makes no sense. I’m actually am a member of Mensa. The test is one everyone can do. It is about how fast you do it and how many you get right in that time frame. The more you get right in the set time frame, the higher your iq. High iq is simply how quickly you can solve a logical problem posed to you.

There are no arguments in it. No sides to see. It is in a number of tests, , covering many different elements from arithmetic through to spatial awareness to language. Every single person can do it unless they have additional needs, given enough time. People with a high iq can just do it faster than others.

My iq is in the top two percent of the population. All it means is I can solve problems quicker than 98 percent. That’s it.

And your post poses a problem, and the only possible solution is you’ve never sat an iq test in your life.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 29/11/2020 19:56

Find yourself another DM reader. You'll both be on the same page

Howzaboutye · 29/11/2020 21:03

He did what?! He took your pencil from you when you were drawing?

LTB.

HollowTalk · 29/11/2020 21:12

He's a pretentious twat who is trying to make himself look better by making you seem worse.

As for the person who was slagging off Coronation Street - long-running stories have always been enjoyed by lots of people. It doesn't mean the programme has no merit at all. Personally I love the way the storylines are able to go on for decades and the characters develop alongside them. I'm a writer and would love to work on a show like that, where the backstory is just as important as the current plot.

ChochoCrazyCat · 29/11/2020 21:17

Please dump him. You sound entirely normal and not stupid.
The reason why you feel like this is because he routinely makes you feel stupid and undermines your confidence.

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