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1 year old waking every hour - I'm going crazy

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Thisisnotataste · 28/11/2020 21:20

DD 13months won't sleep on her own. She will nap at home after having a bottle of milk for a couple of hours. At bedtime she will eventually fall asleep after milk. But then she wakes every hour or so until I finally give up and put her in the spare bed with me.
Dh has just gone up for the 3rd time this evening to hold her hand as she's crying again.
This isn't normal is it? We're going crazy. We haven't been able to watch a programme together, or sleep in the same bed for a night in nearly a year. We get a quick dinner between trips upstairs. I don't know what to do.
Hv helpfully said she's over tired. No shit sherlock.
When she's in the big bed with me she sleeps most nights right through. Although sometimes if I accidentally wake her (like if I go to the loo in the night) she'll be awake for 2 hours.
I'm exhausted. DH and I have no relationship. I have no relaxation time. I need help.

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KarlKennedysDurianFruit · 28/11/2020 21:22

How mobile is she? Could you get those bed guards and let her sleep in the spare bed without you?

sbhydrogen · 28/11/2020 21:24

Have a read of Solve Your Child's Sleep Problems by Ferber. Honestly, it changed my life.

Tobebythesea · 28/11/2020 21:26

Is there anyway you could get a sleep consultants advice? My first DD was a rubbish sleeper and the £300 cost was the best money we have ever spent.

Jubaju · 28/11/2020 21:27

Has it always been like this or is it a new thing thing?

What have you done about the over tiredness? Is she in a set routine for naps and bedtimes?

Ohalrightthen · 28/11/2020 21:29

You need to sleep train. There are LOTS of different methods, some take a week and involve lots of crying, some take months but with no crying - do some research and pick a method that feels right for you.

OR as PP said, shell out a few hundred quid for a consultant.

Thisisnotataste · 28/11/2020 21:32

@karlkennedysDurianFruit (best username ever)
I did think that. Shes not the most mobile yet and in a sleeping bag so restricted that way.
It doesn't feel like a long term solution but I'm feeling a bit desperate. Shes meant to be sharing rooms with her sister but I can't see that happening.
Are bed guards safe?

I dont think i can do any kind of crying it or leaving her to cry.

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Ilovesugar · 28/11/2020 21:32

Are they falling asleep to milk? So then they might have a sleep association and only know to get to sleep with milk.

They need to go to bed drowsy so they learn to self settle. If you really want to fix it then you and OH need to be on the same page and support each other / not give in. It’s going to get worse before it gets better.

Try the pick up and put down technique, it’s a more mild form of sleep training. You go in and pick them up / calm them down then put them back to bed and pat / sing to them till they are drowsy. It takes a while but you need to do it every time they wake. No bringing them into your bed. Once they have cracked that you can start not picking them up and jus patting / singing. It’s reassuring them you will still come back and be there for them. Obviously wait a minute once you hear them stiring / crying as sometimes they will start to self settle which means they have cracked it!

It’s awful and I have been there! Sending lots of sleepy thoughts your direction!

Thisisnotataste · 28/11/2020 21:33

How do I find a good sleep consultant? I think I would go without any luxuries for a long time if it meant sleep...

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Loubylou9162 · 28/11/2020 21:34

It sounds to me like she needs to learn to self settle. Some children can do this from an early age others it takes a long time.
I’d be tempted to try sleep train if I were you, as someone else has said do some research and pick a method that suits you and your child.

Does she nap well in the day?

Thisisnotataste · 28/11/2020 21:35

Thanks everyone

So when I go up I just hold her hand or put my hand on her chest and she will go back to sleep in minute or 5. What is the next stage?

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Thisisnotataste · 28/11/2020 21:35

She naps well at home. 2 hr afternoon nap. But not at all at nursery.

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Jubaju · 28/11/2020 21:36

justchillbabysleep.co.uk/our-courses/sleep-success-10-18-months/

This might help you fix the basics :) and a bit cheaper than a sleep consultant straight off

Thisisnotataste · 28/11/2020 21:37

We've started putting her to bed earlier. So on days she's had a nap she goes down at 6ish. No nap i try and get her to bed earlier. She wakes at 7 on a good night's sleep (ie if not awake for 2 hours)

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Thisisnotataste · 28/11/2020 21:39

@jubaju thanks
And thanks everyone whos made suggestions.
Sleep guards as maybe she doesn't like her current bed?
Sleep training (without crying)
And sleep consultant if those don't work.

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Indecisivelurcher · 28/11/2020 21:41

I agree with pp to sleep train. What's happening now is not fair on you and not fair on her. Yes, she'll probably cry. But you can pick a method that fits with your parenting ethos. For example gradual retreat you start as you are now holding her hand. Then next night just sit with her. Then gradually sit further and further away. Or controlled crying / ferber where leave the room but you do frequent check ins. Bear in mind she will probably cry whatever you do, but she's crying now. And sometimes quicker methods like controlled crying can get the whole thing over with quicker, meaning less tears overall. No one wants to sleep train. People do it for a reason. Sleep is so so important not just for you but for your little one developmentally. Read up. Pick something. Stick to it. Good luck op!

WingingIt101 · 28/11/2020 21:46

We are working with a lovely lady called Sam who runs sweetdreambabies she's totally brilliant and so kind and patient, our now 8month old can now do 5 hour stretches and slowly improving.

RandomMess · 28/11/2020 21:47

She may be happier sharing with her sister, it sounds like she doesn't like being alone?

FurrySlipperBoots · 28/11/2020 21:49

I think the trouble here is the 'eventually I give up' thing, because things won't change until you're consistent. It must be confusing and frustrating for her that she knows she'll end up in bed with you eventually but you don't immediately respond to her 'request' for that to happen, so she's crying out of frustration that you just don't 'get' what she's saying, and is only able to calm down when her 'need' to be there in the big bed with you is met. You and your husband should have a discussion about the different approaches, agree on one and stick to it like bloody glue.

Possible solutions:

She shares the 'family' bed, or
You and she sleep together in the spare bed

(she might grow out of this in a year or 2, and be happy to have a 'big girl bed' of her own, or she might be 11 and still want to be in with you, it's a gamble!)

You do away with the cot and invest in a Montessori 'floor bed', in the hopes that she'll feel less trapped and more independent/confident, and therefore less anxious without you

(unlikely to help at all, but you never know! Obviously you'd need to completely baby proof her room too)

You commit to a program of controlled crying

(can be deeply upsetting for you as parents as well as her. May work like a charm within a few days, or may drag on for a week or more and leave her with general anxiety and clingyness during the day even if she gives up crying for you at night.)

You adopt a method of 'gradual withdrawal' - when she wakes you sit by her cot and 'ssshhhhh' and pat or whatever but don't take her out, and as she gets used to falling back to sleep like this you move your chair further away each night until you're out of the room and she can settle herself

(can be confusing and frustrating for them. Likely to take longer than controlled crying and be as upsetting for her, but maybe not so traumatizing for you)

In your shoes I think I'd be tempted to go for the gradual withdrawal, but have your husband be the one to sit with and soothe her. If she associates you with being the one who gets her out and brings her into bed she'll quickly learn that that isn't how it's going to go with Daddy, but still have the reassurance of having a loving parent in with her. I'd give her a top you've been wearing to snuggle down with when you first put her down for the night too, so she can be calmed by the scent of you.

The most important thing of all is consistency, no chopping and changing, even if you're all exhausted - you need to give whatever method you choose time to work, and that could be a month or more!

Piglet89 · 28/11/2020 22:02

I dont think i can do any kind of crying it or leaving her to cry.

Then you are probably committed to a longer road to fixing this (and it already sounds like you’re at the end of your tether). We were all so frustrated and stressed not even 5 months in, we paid a sleep consultant a small fortune, followed her daytime routine to the absolute minute, did CIO for about 5 nights and it fixed it.

Hard, but so worth it.

As PPs have said, though - consistency is key.

Piglet89 · 28/11/2020 22:04

How do I find a good sleep consultant? I think I would go without any luxuries for a long time if it meant sleep...

@Thisisnotataste God Do I remember this stage. Wild.

I would recommend our consultant but she is proper old school and does crying, so she wouldn’t suit you I think.

WombatStewForTea · 28/11/2020 22:12

You're not alone. If you're on facebook join 'beyond sleep training' before you commit to anything.

Cio is damaging. All you're doing is teaching your child nobody is going to come when they cry. Remember that NSPCC advert?

Do you prefer sleeping with your husband than being on your own? Most people do so why do people expect their child to be any different.

Ohalrightthen · 28/11/2020 22:34

@WombatStewForTea

You're not alone. If you're on facebook join 'beyond sleep training' before you commit to anything.

Cio is damaging. All you're doing is teaching your child nobody is going to come when they cry. Remember that NSPCC advert?

Do you prefer sleeping with your husband than being on your own? Most people do so why do people expect their child to be any different.

OP has already made it clear that she won't be doing CIO.

She's also made it clear that she is at breaking point, and that her marriage is suffering, and that something HAS to change.

Making vague inferences designed to make her feel guilty for needing sleep and time to dedicate to her relationship is just shitty. Pack it in, or find something helpful to say.

WombatStewForTea · 28/11/2020 23:00

Er not trying to make her feel shitty. Can actually be helpful for people to realise they aren't alone and there's lots of help on that group.

My cio comments were generally aimed at anyone who considers it no

hf2345 · 28/11/2020 23:25

Don’t do CIO 😔 It affects there brain development it’s so cruel. There’s so many more gentle sleep training methods. You need to first of all cut out the bottles, switch to a cup of milk morning and eve so there’s no falling asleep on the bottle for nap time,, find another way for a nap , walk in the pram ? Then you can move into getting them asleep awake in the cot. Do they have a special teddy or comforter you could try an get them attached too? It’s hard work to crack but once you’ve done it you will feel like a new person x

hf2345 · 28/11/2020 23:27

asleep by themselves in the cot *