Doing this to a child is wrong

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BBC report : His said his 14-year-old daughter had not left her bedroom for four days, with meals being left outside her door, until the family learned the result was void on Thursday

This is so wrong to do to a child

It's more effort than most of them put in

Possibly a bored teenager self-isolating in its foetid den?

Do people really do this in households without any clinically vulnerable members? When DH and I tested positive we carried on as normal, him working from home and me pottering around, none of us went out but we didn’t stay confined to one room, two adult children behaved as normal and didn’t catch it, tested negative and showed no symptoms.
The only person in the house who is clinically vulnerable is DH and he was the first to test positive but was not particularly unwell, certainly well enough to continue working.

You keep telling yourself that. You're right. everyone else, on every thread, is wrong.

Other people are right on lots of threads. I’m right on this one. It’s wrong to compel children to confine themselves to their rooms. I’m not going to countenance that it isn’t.

@corythatwas Stop it! You mean you actually behave like a normal family, providing care for one another while the person who is ill remains in their room receiving everything they need?! Outrageous! I can't believe you'd even suggest your son stay in his room when ill. What kind of a parent are you imprisoning him like that.

Don't forget to get appropriate clothing for them, you dictators😁

My teens would absolutely love that.

Do you think you have the same right to imprison your husband/wife/partner, or is it just kids you confine to their rooms?

Where was the confinement in Cory's post?

Oh wait no there was none. A suggestion to an unwell child to stay in bed and let mum know what they needed, but no order to stay there.

ILoveYou3000

Rubbish.

Wow, is this pointless argument still going? Next person to post on this thread is a rotten egg. Go and enjoy your weekend. Get a hobby!

@flaviaritt please do show me where I'm wrong?

Wow, is this pointless argument still going? Next person to post on this thread is a rotten egg. Go and enjoy your weekend. Get a hobby!

😂😂😂

Sadly, I'm imprisoned in my room, so for now this is my hobby. It's keeping me entertained in between the brief visits from family members to throw food at me.

@flaviaritt

corythatwas

Do you think you have the same right to imprison your husband/wife/partner, or is it just kids you confine to their rooms?

But in that situation, it would be quite reasonable to insist that if the adult family member won't do the sensible thing, their consequence might be the rest of the family moving out for the duration, if practical.

& then re-evaluating living arrangements once the crisis was over. If my adult child or partner wasn't on the same page about self isolating, & was frankly being an inconsiderate shit, maybe the living together arrangements are untenable going forward.

My children generally do as they're told. Well, obviously they're stroppy teenagers so they don't always, but if it's a question of the whole family's wellbeing I'm certainly going to expect & demand that they do.

ILoveYou3000

No. You can go back and read it. If
you do that competently and honestly, you will agree that Cory’s kids were made to stay in their rooms when they were ill. If you can’t or won’t, I still know.

But in that situation, it would be quite reasonable to insist that if the adult family member won't do the sensible thing, their consequence might be the rest of the family moving out for the duration, if practical.

It wouldn’t. You have no right to either throw your partner out of their house, or force them to stay in their room. That’s abuse.

but if it's a question of the whole family's wellbeing I'm certainly going to expect & demand that they do.

So another poster who would compel their children into isolation.

But “nobody” is saying that. Oh no.

No. You can go back and read it. If
you do that competently and honestly, you will agree that Cory’s kids were made to stay in their rooms when they were ill. If you can’t or won’t, I still know.

Right, you can't show me because it isn't there.

"you should stay in bed and I'll bring you a drink, what would you like?" is not the same as "you must stay in bed and not leave your room until I say so".

ILoveYou3000

I have repeatedly asked Cory whether her children would have been allowed out if they wanted to leave their rooms to exercise. She (if I remember rightly) declined to answer. She has described this arrangement as the “house rules”. So not a preference, something she has decided is going to happen whether they like it or not.

I would like to know whether the same applies to adults, or just children.

Do you think you have the same right to imprison your husband/wife/partner, or is it just kids you confine to their rooms?

flavia, what bit of "the same behaviour would apply to any household member" was it you didn't understand?

Tbh they wouldn't have been any keener on their sniffling or vomiting dad hanging around communal spaces either, potentially ruining their plans for the week by passing on his illness.

corythatwas

That bit. Whether you think you have a right to confine your husband/wife/partner to their room.

@flaviaritt

Aragog

Again, this is why I have used the word “it”. IF the child was not allowed to leave, that is imprisonment and it is therefore comparable to...imprisonment.

IF the child was shut in her room, threatened with punishment if she emerged, left totally isolated by her family who didn't ever speak to her or bother to check if she was OK or indeed was developing Covid signs, sure, it would be wrong.

But there is literally nothing in the report that suggests that that is what happened. Do you imagine her parents would have told the world about it if it was?

I just don't understand the point of posting a load of hypothetical dramatics which are not backed by any evidence at all, and frankly I'm not sure that you do either. You might just as well post that IF the parents had tied her up and tortured her it would be wrong, or IF they had chucked her out of the house it would be wrong; and of course you would be correct. But the discussion of what actually happened would have advanced not one jot further. Which is precisely where you have got to with all your hypotheses.

"I have repeatedly asked Cory whether her children would have been allowed out if they wanted to leave their rooms to exercise. She (if I remember rightly) declined to answer."

You do not remember correctly. I explained that these rules applied to acutely ill people who did not need to exercise. Also that they could not have exercised in communal living spaces anyway, due to lack of space.

Also, once my dc reached their teens family rules were discussed as a household.

IF the child was shut in her room, threatened with punishment if she emerged, left totally isolated by her family who didn't ever speak to her or bother to check if she was OK or indeed was developing Covid signs, sure, it would be wrong.

It’s wrong anyway. Not just if they don’t check on her.

And I am discussing this because others are discussing it with me.

Cory

Stop being so disingenuous, for the love of god. If someone is too ill to get out of bed, you don’t need a rule to stop them leaving the house.

Your “rules” involved telling them they were not allowed to leave their room or the house. For days at a time. Right or wrong?

Also, once my dc reached their teens family rules were discussed as a household.

Again, this is utterly disingenuous. If your child had said, “No, Mum, I’m going for a walk”, what would you have said? If people agree rules collectively (and all genuinely agree) it’s an agreement, not a rule. It only needs to be called a “rule” when you are saying it’s happening whether they like it or not. That is compulsion. Them staying in their rooms by preference isn’t.