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To feel so sad I can't go to iteland?

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chateaudoodoo · 21/11/2020 22:42

We are so lucky to have a family house on the wild Atlantic way. My mum grew up there before coming to London to train as a Nurse.
We haven't been this year fir obvious reasons .
My mum is now 83 and a widow she is a very pragmatic tough woman but today she was crying and said she doesn't think she will ever be able to go to iteland again.
We all feel terrible and are very tempted to take her but would it be terrible?

OP posts:
scrappydappydoooooo · 22/11/2020 12:43

JFC, this is a few months off being mostly over. So it would be fucking super if people could hold on for a few months and not cause any unnecessary deaths in that time. Because by April/May when things are back to normal for most of us, the dead will be missing out forever.

Member984815 · 22/11/2020 12:52

Lockdown is finishing next Tuesday she is free to travel and self isolate for 14 days

Littleheart5 · 22/11/2020 12:59

Please do not come. Irish people have really put the shoulder to the wheel on this one and it’s simply unfair to land in now when the UK has made such a balls of the whole situation. If your mother must come let her come with only one other person, get food delivered and stay home for 14 days. Re ‘the locals’ being annoyed, yes they will be, undoubtedly. And may well let you know too

squiggleirl · 22/11/2020 13:10

I’m in Dublin op, just come.

I’m not sure where all the checkpoints are that some of these posters are talking about!

What stupid advice. You live about as far as possible from any part of the Wild Atlantic Way. From where you love, considerable travelling through multiple counties is required to get to the Wild Atlantic Way.

There may be no checkpoints you see, but rest assured, in part thanks to the hoardes of Dublin reg cars that flocked to coastlines at weekends during the last lockdown, there are plenty of checkpoints around the country.

Also, what extra restrictions are in place in Dublin?

Pogmaasal · 22/11/2020 13:12

But even when the lockdown is finished, while people CAN travel within the guidelines, the main point is for no non essential travel

nosswith · 22/11/2020 13:16

Seeing an 83 year old crying is not nice at all. However, any unnecessary travel exposes her to risk that can be avoided. I don't think the journey should be made.

user1496146479 · 22/11/2020 13:30

@MinecraftMother

Just go. We are
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Ber84 · 22/11/2020 13:36

Hey, I'm from Ireland and I think the rules are if you travel to Ireland you just need to self isolate and restrict movement for 14 days 😊🇮🇪, you should take your mum it would make her year.

Ber84 · 22/11/2020 13:42

This might be helpful in making a decision

All arrivals, including Irish residents, arriving from overseas must complete a Public Health Pasenger Locator Form prior to arriving in Ireland. The form may be used by health authorities to contact passengers in order to verify their location in the country.

In general, people are requested to restrict their movements for 14 days when they arrive into Ireland from another country. This applies to all travellers, including Irish citizens and people with no symptoms. Arrivals from Northern Ireland are exempt, as are people in certain defined categories as set out on the Irish Government’s website.

Ireland is implementing the EU ‘traffic lights’ approach to travel, which applies to countries in the EU/EEA and UK. In line with the EU ‘traffic lights’ approach a combined indicator map will be published each week by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC). Passengers from “green” regions are not required to restrict their movements for 14 days on arrival in Ireland.

Passengers arriving from an “orange”, “red” or “grey” region are requested to restrict their movements for 14 days (other than in the case of the defined categories listed on the Irish government website). At present, this continues to include arrivals to Ireland from Great Britain.

Until further notice, passengers arriving into Ireland from Denmark are requested to self-isolate for 14 days after their arrival, including those travelling for an essential purpose.

With effect from midnight 29 November passengers arriving from an “orange, “red” or “grey” region can end their period of restricted movement if they receive a negative /‘not detected’ result of a Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test taken a minimum of five days after their arrival in Ireland. Passengers wishing to obtain a post-arrival test should seek an appointment for a test in advance of travel, should note that the test will be provided by private commercial sector testing supply and will be paid for by passengers. Such passengers should wait for their negative test result to be returned before ending the period of restricted movements.

See Entry requirements for more information before you plan to travel.

DianaT1969 · 22/11/2020 14:02

OP, I think it's important for your mum to go there. Non-Irish people might not understand the longing to see "home" in your last years. It's a yearning in the soul.
I would make a plan to take her as soon as she gets her vaccine. In theory, she could have both jabs by mid January depending on rollout in her area . Let her know that she'll be there straight after the vaccine and in order to fulfill quarantine on arrival, she'll probably still be in Ireland for St. Patrick's Day.

Retiremental · 22/11/2020 14:04

@DianaT1969

OP, I think it's important for your mum to go there. Non-Irish people might not understand the longing to see "home" in your last years. It's a yearning in the soul. I would make a plan to take her as soon as she gets her vaccine. In theory, she could have both jabs by mid January depending on rollout in her area . Let her know that she'll be there straight after the vaccine and in order to fulfill quarantine on arrival, she'll probably still be in Ireland for St. Patrick's Day.
Tis a deep yearnin’ indeed for the motherland. Sure by gorra the leprechauns and the banshees from the bog will protect Irelands children from the evil coronavirus.
TheYearOfSmallThings · 22/11/2020 14:24

It's a yearning in the soul

Ochon ochon, where is a vomiting emoji when ye need one?

OchonAgusOchonO · 22/11/2020 14:27

@TheYearOfSmallThings - Grin

OchonAgusOchonO · 22/11/2020 14:29

@DianaT1969 - Non-Irish people might not understand the longing to see "home" in your last years.

You might have a point about Non-Irish people except for all the Irish people on here telling the op not to come......

TheYearOfSmallThings · 22/11/2020 14:30
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ReallySpicyCurry · 22/11/2020 14:31

I'm in NI so I can't speak for down south but I'd wait until restrictions ease next week and then I'd take her. Especially if you're able to drive over. You can get a shop booked for delivery the door and you can avoid the locals. She's 83 and it's her house.

squiggleirl · 22/11/2020 14:40

Non-Irish people might not understand the longing to see "home" in your last years. It's a yearning in the soul.

Somebody's been watching too many Wild Mountain Thyme trailers...

Littlemissnutcracker · 22/11/2020 14:50

I think I would wait until the Spring. She has her family beside her and she's very lucky. I sag that kindly. My in laws live in rural Ireland and are actually very down and depressed from a lack of stimuation during the cocooning and 5km restrictions. You sound like lovely family.

Littlemissnutcracker · 22/11/2020 14:51

Say

TreestumpsAndTrampolines · 22/11/2020 15:00

I’m not sure where all the checkpoints are that some of these posters are talking about!

Well, I go through one 4 times a day, stopped about 50% of the time since I live on a border and take my kids to school across the border. They definitely exist.

OP, level 5 ends on the 1st. Arrange to come after. Wear masks. self-isolate before and explain that when you're here. People are applying common sense in my experience.

Heyahun · 22/11/2020 15:04

It was fine once you isolated earlier in the year - I’ve been back to Ireland 3 times since March! My grans house is empty at the moment waiting to be sold so I stayed there each time for 2 weeks then had 2 weeks with my parents in their house - working from home so it was doable!

However the rules have changed and it says you should only go there if you have to - education purposes, work, or for an emergency! Travel insurance will not cover you if you travel either as the U.K. advise against travel.

My husband has been back several times too - but that’s because his mum has Alzheimer’s and it’s gotten really bad through lockdown and there was nobody to look after her.

Brissiegirl · 22/11/2020 15:07

@ReallySpicyCurry. It's her house but it's our country and our restrictions and our citizen's health.

Btw - Level 5 might end next week but it could be extended too. Melbourne had numerous extensions to their lockdown but now have beaten the virus and over 3 weeks now free from any new cases in the state of Victoria.

ReallySpicyCurry · 22/11/2020 18:21

But she's Irish? So it's her country too?

ReallySpicyCurry · 22/11/2020 18:22

By her house I meant she's not staying in a B&B or anything like that - so if restrictions on travel lift then it's a case of an Irish woman coming back to Ireland to stay in her own house, where she'll be in quarantine for 14 days? Unless I'm missing something?

Inextremis · 22/11/2020 18:28

For some reason, this thread has been on my mind all day - @chateaudoodoo - if your part of the WAW is anywhere near the south side of Clew Bay, let me know, and perhaps I could send you/your Mum some current photos of the area? Might cheer her up a bit :)

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