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To feel so sad I can't go to iteland?

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chateaudoodoo · 21/11/2020 22:42

We are so lucky to have a family house on the wild Atlantic way. My mum grew up there before coming to London to train as a Nurse.
We haven't been this year fir obvious reasons .
My mum is now 83 and a widow she is a very pragmatic tough woman but today she was crying and said she doesn't think she will ever be able to go to iteland again.
We all feel terrible and are very tempted to take her but would it be terrible?

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ClareBlue · 22/11/2020 22:44

Why does she have to come now? Is there a reason why she doesn't think she will be able to come in March?
Another one who lives in the WAW and any non Clare registered car is stopped. There are checkpoints, but that is not the point. It is about doing the right thing which at this point us not traveling.

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Griselda1 · 22/11/2020 22:02

We've a mobile home on the Atlantic way and travel across the border has been difficult. Donegal people have begged visitors not to come. We made one trip to close the mobile home down, returned via Innishowen where we were stopped twice in very lengthy queues.
Is your Mother in good health, I'd be worried about her needing medical attention while she's there.

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Brissiegirl · 22/11/2020 20:31

It may well be her own house and own country but she would still be traveling a long distance, necessitating at least a few food/toilet stops for unnecessary reasons to a jurisdiction which has in the main being doing alot of good work to try control the virus. Quarantining doesn't take away all the risks to everyone else.

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OchonAgusOchonO · 22/11/2020 20:05

Unless I'm missing something?

The fact the op stated food delivery wasn't an option and they would need to visit local shops.

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Inextremis · 22/11/2020 18:28

For some reason, this thread has been on my mind all day - @chateaudoodoo - if your part of the WAW is anywhere near the south side of Clew Bay, let me know, and perhaps I could send you/your Mum some current photos of the area? Might cheer her up a bit :)

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ReallySpicyCurry · 22/11/2020 18:22

By her house I meant she's not staying in a B&B or anything like that - so if restrictions on travel lift then it's a case of an Irish woman coming back to Ireland to stay in her own house, where she'll be in quarantine for 14 days? Unless I'm missing something?

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ReallySpicyCurry · 22/11/2020 18:21

But she's Irish? So it's her country too?

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Brissiegirl · 22/11/2020 15:07

@ReallySpicyCurry. It's her house but it's our country and our restrictions and our citizen's health.

Btw - Level 5 might end next week but it could be extended too. Melbourne had numerous extensions to their lockdown but now have beaten the virus and over 3 weeks now free from any new cases in the state of Victoria.

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Heyahun · 22/11/2020 15:04

It was fine once you isolated earlier in the year - I’ve been back to Ireland 3 times since March! My grans house is empty at the moment waiting to be sold so I stayed there each time for 2 weeks then had 2 weeks with my parents in their house - working from home so it was doable!

However the rules have changed and it says you should only go there if you have to - education purposes, work, or for an emergency! Travel insurance will not cover you if you travel either as the U.K. advise against travel.

My husband has been back several times too - but that’s because his mum has Alzheimer’s and it’s gotten really bad through lockdown and there was nobody to look after her.

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TreestumpsAndTrampolines · 22/11/2020 15:00

I’m not sure where all the checkpoints are that some of these posters are talking about!

Well, I go through one 4 times a day, stopped about 50% of the time since I live on a border and take my kids to school across the border. They definitely exist.

OP, level 5 ends on the 1st. Arrange to come after. Wear masks. self-isolate before and explain that when you're here. People are applying common sense in my experience.

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Littlemissnutcracker · 22/11/2020 14:51

Say

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Littlemissnutcracker · 22/11/2020 14:50

I think I would wait until the Spring. She has her family beside her and she's very lucky. I sag that kindly. My in laws live in rural Ireland and are actually very down and depressed from a lack of stimuation during the cocooning and 5km restrictions. You sound like lovely family.

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squiggleirl · 22/11/2020 14:40

Non-Irish people might not understand the longing to see "home" in your last years. It's a yearning in the soul.

Somebody's been watching too many Wild Mountain Thyme trailers...

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ReallySpicyCurry · 22/11/2020 14:31

I'm in NI so I can't speak for down south but I'd wait until restrictions ease next week and then I'd take her. Especially if you're able to drive over. You can get a shop booked for delivery the door and you can avoid the locals. She's 83 and it's her house.

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 22/11/2020 14:30
Shock
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OchonAgusOchonO · 22/11/2020 14:29

@DianaT1969 - Non-Irish people might not understand the longing to see "home" in your last years.

You might have a point about Non-Irish people except for all the Irish people on here telling the op not to come......

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OchonAgusOchonO · 22/11/2020 14:27

@TheYearOfSmallThings - Grin

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 22/11/2020 14:24

It's a yearning in the soul

Ochon ochon, where is a vomiting emoji when ye need one?

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Retiremental · 22/11/2020 14:04

@DianaT1969

OP, I think it's important for your mum to go there. Non-Irish people might not understand the longing to see "home" in your last years. It's a yearning in the soul.
I would make a plan to take her as soon as she gets her vaccine. In theory, she could have both jabs by mid January depending on rollout in her area . Let her know that she'll be there straight after the vaccine and in order to fulfill quarantine on arrival, she'll probably still be in Ireland for St. Patrick's Day.

Tis a deep yearnin’ indeed for the motherland. Sure by gorra the leprechauns and the banshees from the bog will protect Irelands children from the evil coronavirus.
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DianaT1969 · 22/11/2020 14:02

OP, I think it's important for your mum to go there. Non-Irish people might not understand the longing to see "home" in your last years. It's a yearning in the soul.
I would make a plan to take her as soon as she gets her vaccine. In theory, she could have both jabs by mid January depending on rollout in her area . Let her know that she'll be there straight after the vaccine and in order to fulfill quarantine on arrival, she'll probably still be in Ireland for St. Patrick's Day.

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Ber84 · 22/11/2020 13:42

This might be helpful in making a decision

All arrivals, including Irish residents, arriving from overseas must complete a Public Health Pasenger Locator Form prior to arriving in Ireland. The form may be used by health authorities to contact passengers in order to verify their location in the country.

In general, people are requested to restrict their movements for 14 days when they arrive into Ireland from another country. This applies to all travellers, including Irish citizens and people with no symptoms. Arrivals from Northern Ireland are exempt, as are people in certain defined categories as set out on the Irish Government’s website.

Ireland is implementing the EU ‘traffic lights’ approach to travel, which applies to countries in the EU/EEA and UK. In line with the EU ‘traffic lights’ approach a combined indicator map will be published each week by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC). Passengers from “green” regions are not required to restrict their movements for 14 days on arrival in Ireland.

Passengers arriving from an “orange”, “red” or “grey” region are requested to restrict their movements for 14 days (other than in the case of the defined categories listed on the Irish government website). At present, this continues to include arrivals to Ireland from Great Britain.

Until further notice, passengers arriving into Ireland from Denmark are requested to self-isolate for 14 days after their arrival, including those travelling for an essential purpose.

With effect from midnight 29 November passengers arriving from an “orange, “red” or “grey” region can end their period of restricted movement if they receive a negative /‘not detected’ result of a Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test taken a minimum of five days after their arrival in Ireland. Passengers wishing to obtain a post-arrival test should seek an appointment for a test in advance of travel, should note that the test will be provided by private commercial sector testing supply and will be paid for by passengers. Such passengers should wait for their negative test result to be returned before ending the period of restricted movements.

See Entry requirements for more information before you plan to travel.

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Ber84 · 22/11/2020 13:36

Hey, I'm from Ireland and I think the rules are if you travel to Ireland you just need to self isolate and restrict movement for 14 days 😊🇮🇪, you should take your mum it would make her year.

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user1496146479 · 22/11/2020 13:30

@MinecraftMother

Just go. We are

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nosswith · 22/11/2020 13:16

Seeing an 83 year old crying is not nice at all. However, any unnecessary travel exposes her to risk that can be avoided. I don't think the journey should be made.

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Pogmaasal · 22/11/2020 13:12

But even when the lockdown is finished, while people CAN travel within the guidelines, the main point is for no non essential travel

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