Irish Passport Qualification (lighthearted)

[Happylittlethoughts]

So my Ancestry DNA report says I'm 60% Irish and only 40% Scottish. AIBU to appeal to the Irish Government that this great grounds to qualify for a passport?
Anyone else got special grounds of appeal for another country?

Turf fire, not peat!

@HeyGirlHeyBoy , with you on the potatoes thing.

[quote bellinisurge]@LakieLady , you can obtain birth certificates of the Irish born grandparents fairly easily from Irish authorities. You then need either a death certificate for one or proofs of ID.then you need to prove with documents the link to you - including marriage certificates if relevant. Then your own proofs of ID.
It's a a laborious process and a bit expensive but the Irish authorities are pretty good. Lots can be done online. [/quote]
Just to note you need the marriage certificate if they are married - male or female. Some people misinterpret the 'if relevant' to think it's about the name change and so relates to a grandmother only (as it was the norm for women to change their surnames on marriage).

Just thought I'd mention that as the process is a long one anyway and sending in the application without all the relevant certificate will delay it further.

I think it's got even longer now Brexit and COVID-19 slowed it down. I have an American cousin for who it took nine months - they applied about five years ago. I have an English cousin who applied just after the UK left the EU and they still haven't reached the end (though they know it's processed but have not got the certificate).

Any other family member is now going to have to wait for ages before they can even supply for the certificates!!

@Runssometimes that was like going back with my dad to visit, thank you!

@CherryValanc I’ve been told minimum 18 months but I’ve hit a stumbling block that will mean extra delays.

@CherryValanc , guessing that's only for FBR and not passport via Irish born parent. My dh got his passport through his Irish born dad and I got mine through my Irish born mum. I needed marriage certificates because of name changes, he didn't.
Dd got in the FBR through my mum.

There's a good live chat thing with the Irish authorities - you can check.

@Thehop , good luck. There was a pause over Covid but they are pretty efficiently back on it now. Volumes of applications might cause delay.
Any stumbling block the MN hive mind can help with?

@Katiepoes

I have a book about tea and biscuits that suggests that the true test of Irishness is the Kimberly. Only Irish people actually like them according to the book, whether born there or by heritage. So - to solve the 80s TV reference problem - upon receipt of the passport application a Kimberly is despatched, the applicant must eat it and then their reaction decides their fate. Only Irish genes can tell that no, it is not stale, it is in fact one of the greatest biscuits ever. Or used to be at least, my last care package* suggests Kimberly are not what they once were.

*Barrys Tea, Tayto and various biscuits. Not fig rolls though, yack.

This is quite true. But my 1/4 children don't like them and I'd hate for their citizen rights to be questioned, you never know when it'd come in handy.

@HeyGirlHeyBoy yes, with you on the potatoes thing, even if they are balls of flour. My (also Irish) DH once got given potatoes, a potato recipe book, potato ricer and peeler as a secret Santa present at work. The giver outed themselves when they were genuinely flummoxed why he chose to leave it behind in the restaurant they were having their staff meal in. WTAF was she thinking?

I also have Irish ancestry one generation too far back. Am gutted about it.

My fantasy hope is that Scotland goes independent. I can probably claim citizenship through ius sanguinis, so will be able to move there and get back my EU passport.

@bellinisurge thank you. I’m trying not to be defeatist but I’ve got no blooming clue.

My dad was born to Irish parents. Born Patrick coady. (Names changed) he then changed his name to match my mum when I was born to Patrick Jones. But he didn’t do it officially. So I think I’m stuck.

I’m trying to speak to someone at the embassy to see if proving I’m the sister of the children he had in his first marriage will prove I’m the grand daughter of the coadys but I can’t get through to anyone because of covid.

@Runssometimes

Brilliant! Though out out is a London thing too, as are immersion (well 70's kid here). A friend asked me to accompany her to a funeral, I was reluctant as I hadn't met the deceased, she told me not to worry, half the people there wouldn't have known them and were just there for the food and drink!

[quote bellinisurge]@CherryValanc , guessing that's only for FBR and not passport via Irish born parent. My dh got his passport through his Irish born dad and I got mine through my Irish born mum. I needed marriage certificates because of name changes, he didn't.
Dd got in the FBR through my mum.

There's a good live chat thing with the Irish authorities - you can check. [/quote]
The (original) question was about FBR wasn't it? Which is why I mentioned it!

@Thehop , is your dad's name on your birth certificate?

LOL at the Child of Prague pronounced to rhyme with Hague. I grew up with that pronounciation and honestly had no idea it had any link with the city of Prague till I saw it written down once. My family are completely agnostic but they still sent me a little C of P to leave outside on the night before my wedding day to guarantee good weather...and we did indeed get amazing weather.

@bellinisurge his adopted name not his birth name. It’s the most idiotic thing, he seems to have done,

My half siblings all have his birth name on theirs.

The Irish Government is so lax on these matters your appeal would probably work!

[quote movingonup20]@Runssometimes

Brilliant! Though out out is a London thing too, as are immersion (well 70's kid here). A friend asked me to accompany her to a funeral, I was reluctant as I hadn't met the deceased, she told me not to worry, half the people there wouldn't have known them and were just there for the food and drink![/quote]
Haha, another thing! DH was a little perplexed at why I was going to the funeral of my friends uncle when I hadn’t met him. Well, because she asked me to and I used to know her cousin a few years back. Apparently this is unusual to him. Seemed normal to me 🤷🏼‍♀️

@Shetoshe , the Irish government is not lax on these matters. Having been through the process, I can attest to that.
Just to remind people about the "Irish blood" thing. Ireland is becoming more diverse ethnically than it ever was. There are plenty of first (and second etc ) generation Irish people from Black and other Ethnic minority backgrounds who do a better job of being Irish than me with my passport and my late Irish mammy.

@Shuddawuddacudda ooh thanks! We have a lot of travelers around here so our local supermarket has an 'Irish foods' section and I can get a few bits, Barry's, red lemonade, kimberley, proper Cadburys and taytos, but no bread. My dm has a shop near her that sells what it claims is soda bread but it is no such thing. It's got oats on it.

I tried making it myself because it's really easy but it's not the same without the right flour. It really is the one food I miss the most.

My dad lives here in Liverpool too but goes home quite a bit to catch up with my uncle. Last few times he's caught the plane but when he gets the ferry I hound him to bring me back a loaf or two (and a packet of rashers and a few sausages from the butcher on main Street because they are objectively the best rashers and sausages in the world and I will die on that hill).

I can take or leave potatoes. I much prefer rice and pasta.

My English friend with an absentee Irish father just asked me 'what in suffering feck is a delph'

I let 'press' slip often.

[quote Thehop]@bellinisurge his adopted name not his birth name. It’s the most idiotic thing, he seems to have done,

My half siblings all have his birth name on theirs.[/quote]
Arah whisht, shur the passport office would understand such logic.

Q18 After being rained off the site, the foreman tells Jim to clean his shovel and put it away. Jim says "I will in my hole". Where (if anywhere) is Jim going to put the shovel?

DP has been gloating over his ability to get an Irish passport, but hasn't actually done it yet. I have Irish ancestry, but don't qualify - the injustice.

@Shuddawuddacudda
A special How to Speak Dublin for you . I will in me bleedin' hole.