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To sign up at the surgery as ‘Dr’

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Chocolatebutton43 · 11/11/2020 20:11

I got my PhD two months ago, moved to a new place and signed up to a new doctor’s surgery and dental practice.

Filling in the forms, I got a bit carried away with my new title and ticked the ‘dr’ box! I’ve been doing it a lot lately for silly little things partly ‘cause I’m just happy to have finished and passed my degree and also because I relish that I am no longer defined by my marital status.

But, I now need to visit the surgery and I feel like an idiot. The form also had occupation so the doctor will know I’m not a medical doctor. Is he/she going to think I am a total prat for using Dr outside my work and at the doctor’s surgery of all places? Cringe Blush

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Wildflower219 · 13/11/2020 15:48

Ah @Chocolatebutton43 I can relate to this. I work in healthcare and we always used to have a relative ring up and say hello I'm Dr such and such enquiring about Ted for example. So I would get confused and be like oh what department are you ringing from or is this about Z test. He always seemed confused and I never understood until someone told me no he has a PhD in maths so is Dr and it was the person's son basically ringing to ask how he was. Still makes me lol to this day. I'm sure the gp won't mind you using Dr in your title just be careful when ringing a hospital and announcing yourself as Dr it confuses the staff lol. But massive congratulations on your masters well done and yes use your title you earned it.

CheetasOnFajitas · 13/11/2020 15:48

@grey12

Someone in my research lab said he never used the Dr label in case he were to be called for a medical emergency in a plane or something Grin I don't think being really good at computer programming would help
Funnily enough though, most modern aircraft are flown by onboard computers so he might actually be very helpful in a different type of inflight emergency 😀.
toptomatoes · 13/11/2020 16:01

Congratulations! I use mine in if I need to fill my title in, as I also prefer that to the Mrs/Ms option. It’s more than 15 years on and I have never been called upon in an emergency! I don’t introduce myself as Dr, just as my name so it’s rarely used in day to day life. You also get the fun of letters being corrected from Mr and Dr to Mrs and Dr, which helps reinforce the decision to use it!

RattleOfBars · 13/11/2020 18:03

Absolute rubbish. Why science?? Is that the only valuable subject?

It’s not the only valuable subject. But define ‘value’? My comment was not rubbish either. If for example you do PhD in Art or Literature what do you do with it other than teach students? It’s not as if it generates any research that helps medicine, neuroscience, psychiatry, telecommunications, physics, engineering or contributes to the eco-friendly quest?

I’m just a bit puzzled as to what the point of writing an arts-based thesis is, if it’s only of interest to the university and others in that particular field, and doesn’t contribute to the wider world/society in any way.

Medical Doctors have a higher than average social standing (I guess because people see them as healers, helpers and brimming with medical knowledge that saves lives. And maybe because they undergo continuous intensive training before becoming high earners as they progress up the ranks?) Continued professional development for doctors is quite brutal and unrelenting especially the first 3 years.

Calling yourself Dr by title is like telling people ‘I’m a doctor’ and of course their first thought is medical doctor.

I remember a cousin of mine announcing she was ‘marrying a doctor’ and we all said ‘ooh congratulations, which field is he in?’ (we have a lot of medics in the family).
She looked a bit uncomfortable and replied ‘he’s a doctor of English Literature’. There was an awkward silence then her younger sister burst out laughing and said ‘stop telling people he’s a doctor, just say he’s a lecturer. You can mention the PhD thing later.’

So yes, unfortunately using the title when you’re not a medical doctor can be confusing and come across as a bit pompous. Being a doctor isn’t your profession just because you have a PhD, so implying otherwise can lead to a lot of confusion! Of course you might have an equally respected profession like ‘university lecturer’ or ‘clinical psychologist’!

Alison20 · 13/11/2020 18:22

In response to Rattle

There is such a thing as research in other subjects including the arts. It leads to developments in those areas. Just because you do not value them does not mean they are worthless to the human race or invalid.

Janegrey333 · 13/11/2020 18:26

And medical doctors don’t stop training when they qualify as doctors, they sit exam after exam and study for years to go from an F1 to a Consultant. And pay a fortune just to take each exam, even the junior ones on low salaries.

Yes, that’s stating the obvious really. However, it appears some need to have that fact spelled out for them.

Janegrey333 · 13/11/2020 18:28

You can get a PhD in almost anything now, from Performing Arts to Creative Writing, if you pay the fees and study for long enough. There’s a lot of corruption and loopholes in academia as well, as oppose to medical school which is very regimented and hard to pass.

This^

SueEllenMishke · 13/11/2020 18:32

It’s not the only valuable subject. But define ‘value’? My comment was not rubbish either. If for example you do PhD in Art or Literature what do you do with it other than teach students? It’s not as if it generates any research that helps medicine, neuroscience, psychiatry, telecommunications, physics, engineering or contributes to the eco-friendly quest?

I’m just a bit puzzled as to what the point of writing an arts-based thesis is, if it’s only of interest to the university and others in that particular field, and doesn’t contribute to the wider world/society in any way.

This is a really sad way of viewing education. What you're essentially saying is that higher level study is only valuable if it contributes to the scientific arena. Saying 'what's the point of an arts based thesis' is very dismissive and insulting. The world would be a pretty boring place if we didn't have people who had a passion for the arts.

My thesis was in no way scientific but was still a valuable piece of research both in academic terms but across my profession.

Medical Doctors have a higher than average social standing (I guess because people see them as healers, helpers and brimming with medical knowledge that saves lives. And maybe because they undergo continuous intensive training before becoming high earners as they progress up the ranks?) Continued professional development for doctors is quite brutal and unrelenting especially the first 3 years.

Again, the medical profession doesn't have the monopoly on this.

Calling yourself Dr by title is like telling people ‘I’m a doctor’ and of course their first thought is medical doctor

But it's not onerous or difficult to explain that's not the case. .

I remember a cousin of mine announcing she was ‘marrying a doctor’ and we all said ‘ooh congratulations, which field is he in?’ (we have a lot of medics in the family).
She looked a bit uncomfortable and replied ‘he’s a doctor of English Literature’. There was an awkward silence then her younger sister burst out laughing and said ‘stop telling people he’s a doctor, just say he’s a lecturer. You can mention the PhD thing later.’

Your family don't come out too well in that story.

So yes, unfortunately using the title when you’re not a medical doctor can be confusing and come across as a bit pompous. Being a doctor isn’t your profession just because you have a PhD, so implying otherwise can lead to a lot of confusion! Only if you're hard of understanding.
Anyway, it's not been used as a job title in this situation. It's a title - just like miss or mrs.
A title you're legitimately allowed to use if you've completed your doctorate.

SueEllenMishke · 13/11/2020 18:34

@Janegrey333

You can get a PhD in almost anything now, from Performing Arts to Creative Writing, if you pay the fees and study for long enough. There’s a lot of corruption and loopholes in academia as well, as oppose to medical school which is very regimented and hard to pass.

This^

Not this. What evidence do you have that universities are corrupt?
Janegrey333 · 13/11/2020 18:34

Your family don't come out too well in that story.

That’s a bit unkind. They merely pricked the pomposity balloon.

SueEllenMishke · 13/11/2020 18:34

@Janegrey333

And medical doctors don’t stop training when they qualify as doctors, they sit exam after exam and study for years to go from an F1 to a Consultant. And pay a fortune just to take each exam, even the junior ones on low salaries.

Yes, that’s stating the obvious really. However, it appears some need to have that fact spelled out for them.

This isn't exclusive to the medical profession. Some people clearly need that spelling out.
Alison20 · 13/11/2020 18:36

In addition art can be practice based as well as theoretical, as can music and literature. Authors, artists, composers exploring ideas that add to research and yes this does happen in doctoral work in the arts.

The OP has every right to use her qualification.

Hmm going to leave now

SueEllenMishke · 13/11/2020 18:36

@Janegrey333

Your family don't come out too well in that story.

That’s a bit unkind. They merely pricked the pomposity balloon.

Yes , they were very unkind.
Janegrey333 · 13/11/2020 18:36

What evidence do you have that universities are corrupt?

Who don’t you ask the poster who made the point? Confused

Janegrey333 · 13/11/2020 18:38

Yes , they were very unkind.

Okaaaay...

CheetasOnFajitas · 13/11/2020 18:41

@Janegrey333

What evidence do you have that universities are corrupt?

Who don’t you ask the poster who made the point? Confused

Why didn’t YOU ask her before agreeing with her?
Janegrey333 · 13/11/2020 18:41

I feel as if I have been dragged into a game of ping pong in a parallel universe. (Is it so weird here today because it’s Friday the 13th...?)

Janegrey333 · 13/11/2020 18:42

It’s getting a bit Laurel and Hardy now!Grin

ErrolTheDragon · 13/11/2020 18:42

We're all free to leave when we've said what we want to say, you know.

SueEllenMishke · 13/11/2020 18:43

@Janegrey333

What evidence do you have that universities are corrupt?

Who don’t you ask the poster who made the point? Confused

I did. They didn't answer.... but seeing as though you appeared to agree I thought I'd ask you too.
NerrSnerr · 13/11/2020 18:45

This thread is really strange. What I have taken from it is-

People with PHDs have worked really hard and if they wish they can use the title Dr when they register at the GP

Medical doctors have also worked really hard and if they wish they can use the title Dr when they register at the GP

Airlines should consider how they ask for assistance if someone falls ill on a plane.

Janegrey333 · 13/11/2020 18:48

They didn't answer....

Don’t you mean she or he?

Belladonna12 · 13/11/2020 18:48

It is your title so why shouldn't you use it on the form? Everyone else uses their title. They will usually ask if you are a medical doctor (if they notice) as unlike some (of the not so intelligent people on here) they realise that not every "Dr" is a medic. I work in the University Hospital and we never assume that.

Janegrey333 · 13/11/2020 18:49

@NerrSnerr

This thread is really strange. What I have taken from it is-

People with PHDs have worked really hard and if they wish they can use the title Dr when they register at the GP

Medical doctors have also worked really hard and if they wish they can use the title Dr when they register at the GP

Airlines should consider how they ask for assistance if someone falls ill on a plane.

Pretty good précis.
Belladonna12 · 13/11/2020 18:49

I meant to say "a university hospital" not "the University Hospital"