Child's class bubble close but should it have been?

[TellerTuesday4EVA]

This also happened to a friend with DC at a different school.

Message to parents last night, DD's class bubble will now be closed and children to isolate for 14 days as a child in the bubble has tested positive over the weekend.

Class group chat starts, one mum comes on & says it's X but we're ok. Then says X doesn't have any symptoms, was me on Friday afternoon and husband Saturday but we got her tested anyway and it's positive.

Now every single thing I have read says only to have a test if you develop symptoms. X would have to self isolate anyway due to the parents having positive tests but by getting her tested they now closed the bubble and all 30 kids are at home for 14 days. This what would happen if following the rules but then it shows the system if flawed as this child obviously did have it and was asymptotic.

So I don't know if I'm right to be annoyed by this or not. I'm certainly not looking forward to 2 weeks home schooling again.

@Belindabelle isn’t it unbelievable that after 7 months and nearly 70,000 deaths you still have to explain that to people.

It sure is!

OP your child could have it. They pass it on to you. You pass it on to a work colleague who passes it on to their partner who passes it onto their colleague who passes it onto someone on the bus who passes it onto to their child who passes it on to their bubble at a different school.

To be fair that could still happen as the OP doesn't need to isolate, only the child.

The bubble closure simply reduced the chances, it doesn't stop them in this kind of situation.

So what you’re really saying is you’d rather not know that a child in the class tested positive so that everyone could carry on going to school even if it spread the virus. I think the mum showed common sense in getting her child tested. We’ve heard lots of reports of asymptotic children who unknowingly spread the virus. Yes it’s inconvenient for you OP, but there could be other asymptotic children in the class who caught off the original child who would have continued going to school and spread the virus further. The school was right to close the bubble. They are trying to keep people safe.

@Moneypenny007 wow you tested positive without symptoms. This is why mask wearing and social distancing is so important. Strange the guidelines in the U.K. My work wouldn't let me come back until I got my son's test result! And he still had to stay home for another 7 days (well 14 because the following week was midterm break).

@Mishmased yes the entire house was confined for the 14days. I was allowed out 10days after my positive test.
Thankfully no one contracted it from me.

If ever there were questions as to why the UK is in such a mess re: Covid, this thread demonstrates it.
On so many levels.

But even if she had merely self isolated, the fact she has been in contact with the class wouldn’t alter the fact other children could have contracted it and be spreading it to others. You’re just miffed that you have to have your child at home.

You’re just miffed that you have to have your child at home
I think that is it - OP to clarify, are you annoyed that

1. a test was 'wasted' on someone that shouldn't have been tested
2. the process is not effective, ie by not testing the child of an adult with symptoms a positive case would have been missed, and only thanks to the parent's decision was it discovered
3. even though you child has been in contact with a positive case and should therefore isolate, the positive case was only discovered during a non-required test so you are annoyed they did the test

Right, just re-read my own post as you had me doubting myself lol

She'd have still been positive if she hadn't had one regardless of showing symptoms, which could have then passed onto someone else who would be really ill from it

Could have passed onto someone who would be really ill with it.
Could.
Says could
Could have passed onto someone who would be really ill with it.
Could.

I think it's definitely you who's not reading it right lol

could now not looking like a real word I've typed it that many times

The uk guidelines are floored. Anyone who has been in contact with a case should be tested and isolate regardless of symptoms.

You’re just miffed that you have to have your child at home

Yes I think that about sums it up really. My dh had Covid recently (teacher - caught from school we think). We all got tested. Thankfully my test and our children’s were all negative, but I don’t regret getting tested. If we had been positive the dc could have passed it onto classmates and others at their clubs (football, rugby, dancing). I’m also a teacher so could have passed it on to the classes I teach. I know it’s not the rules, but I maintain it was the responsible thing to do. Imagine how many more people the virus could have been passed on to if we’d tested positive and not informed people properly.

Say what now? My dh had Covid recently (teacher - caught from school we think). We all got tested. Thankfully my test and our children’s were all negative, but I don’t regret getting tested. If we had been positive the dc could have passed it onto classmates and others at their clubs (football, rugby, dancing). I’m also a teacher so could have passed it on to the classes I teach.

I'm struggling to understand how people can't get the gist of what I'm saying yet you think this is correct? Neither yourself nor your DC should have been going anywhere if your DH had a positive test, you all should have all been at home self isolating. 🤯

@TellerTuesday4EVA

Say what now? My dh had Covid recently (teacher - caught from school we think). We all got tested. Thankfully my test and our children’s were all negative, but I don’t regret getting tested. If we had been positive the dc could have passed it onto classmates and others at their clubs (football, rugby, dancing). I’m also a teacher so could have passed it on to the classes I teach.

I'm struggling to understand how people can't get the gist of what I'm saying yet you think this is correct? Neither yourself nor your DC should have been going anywhere if your DH had a positive test, you all should have all been at home self isolating. 🤯

The children and the poster could have passed it on before knowing that her DH was positive.

By being tested they knew that they hadn't exposed the other people they'd seen in the last few days.

@TellerTuesday4EVA

Say what now? My dh had Covid recently (teacher - caught from school we think). We all got tested. Thankfully my test and our children’s were all negative, but I don’t regret getting tested. If we had been positive the dc could have passed it onto classmates and others at their clubs (football, rugby, dancing). I’m also a teacher so could have passed it on to the classes I teach.

I'm struggling to understand how people can't get the gist of what I'm saying yet you think this is correct? Neither yourself nor your DC should have been going anywhere if your DH had a positive test, you all should have all been at home self isolating. 🤯

Of course they would have self-isolated but at least by getting tersted they knew whether or not their previous contacts needed to isolate too.

Neither yourself nor your DC should have been going anywhere if your DH had a positive test, you all should have all been at home self isolating

But if she and her DC were positive, then their close contacts would have been contacted and told to isolate so they couldn’t pass it on to anyone else.
Not sure why you don’t understand that 🤯

Thank goodness they did get their child tested, as they’d likely be a load of other kids going to school and passing it on having caught it from that child!

You’re just miffed that you have to have your child at home

^^
I’m pretty sure that’s right too!

I really think they should change the rules so that the household of anyone with symptoms or testing positive gets tested right away. Obviously the availability of tests needs to improve!

Yes, to all the posters saying we got tested so that we could inform others if we tested positive asymptotically. You are 100% right, that is why I had us all tested - I was being responsible. Imagine how many people we could have unknowingly passed it on to who would then need to isolate. We of course did our full 14 day isolation anyway, but at least I know we didn’t pass it on to anyone else.

When I tested positive, all of my T&T contacts were asked by email and on the online if they would like to be tested, even if symptom free. They would b]not need to lie to be tested. They were given it as an option

This must be a recent change or dependent on where you live as we asked for tests having a positive person in our household. We had chest pains and breathlessness. We were told No. You cannot have a test because you don’t have the 3 symptoms that trigger the test.

I assumed it was because of a shortage or the need to prioritise those with the top 3 symptoms. We categorically couldn’t get a test without lying and we were living in a household with a positive test result.

Blimey OP if you think your kid being sent home once is an inconvenience brace yourself. It's going to happen again and again so learn some resilience and suck it up like the rest of us. My DD is on her 5th week of self isolating having only had 1 day in school in all that time. She's Y11. I'm just grateful she goes to a very good state school and is able to access online learning.

@CallmeAngelina

If ever there were questions as to why the UK is in such a mess re: Covid, this thread demonstrates it. On so many levels.

I'm thinking this exact same thing. Yes the system is flawed. It's an impossible situation. Ideally the whole household should isolate even if just one member has been in contact with a positive case, just in case the person who had the contact is asymptomatic, passes it onto a family member who is also asymptomatic but can still go out and about and spread it. What a mess this all is.

OP yanbu. The kids (and their class teacher) have already mixed with the infected child, so they are already exposed. Asymptomatic child lives with someone with positive test so is quarantined anyway and we are all in lockdown anyway, so the other children can't spread it beyond their families who they have already exposed anyway. It's just keeping 30 kids off school.

No, the kids and their teacher have not appeared to have caught it fro the infected child SO FAR. If any of the rest of the class are incubating it, they can then infect the others at a later date, so everyone needs to isolate.

@NoIDontWatchLoveIsland

OP yanbu. The kids (and their class teacher) have already mixed with the infected child, so they are already exposed. Asymptomatic child lives with someone with positive test so is quarantined anyway and we are all in lockdown anyway, so the other children can't spread it beyond their families who they have already exposed anyway. It's just keeping 30 kids off school.

Just because the whole class has been exposed doesn't mean they've all been infected. But if they were all to stay at school it raises the risk of someone who has been infected being asymptomatic and then infecting a kid who hadn't been infected by the first one.