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Received text from Ex's new girlfriend. AIBU to be thrilled that he will soon by dying of shame?

589 replies

Shameme0nce · 06/11/2020 17:55

God, I hope she's not on here!!

EXH and I have been apart for 4 years. We were together for 12 years and we split when DD was 5. I won't go into the ins and outs of the relationship but he checked out years before the split and, while I could never prove it, I suspect he was looking around. Marriage had been rocky for a number of reasons but, ultimately, it was his decision to split.

He's always been a challenge in terms of contact and maintenance. Don't get me wrong, he's a good dad but very much of the camp that his responsibility ends the second his day is up and it has been a battle to get to the point where we are at now where DD sees him two nights each week.

He Threw strops about using annual leave to cover a portion of school holidays but is always first to 'claim' her for the fun stuff like birthdays, Christmas, Halloween etc. The man wants to make memories but not deal with the drudgery and inconvenience of day to day life (one of the many reasons we are not compatible now!). I don't let him away with this behaviour but have learned over the years when to pick my battles.

Anyhow, about 18 months on from our split, I met my DP. I was very slow to bring him into my life because of DD and he moved in with us very recently, after two and a half years together. His relationship with DD is lovely but he respects the fact he's not her dad so, while supportive of my battles with Ex, he largely keeps out of it.

I am really not sure of how many 'girlfriends' ex has had. To his credit, he's never introduced any of them to DD as they clearly weren't important enough.

He has, however, in the last few months been seeing a woman in her mid 20s.
DD seems to like her. I feel the introduction was a bit soon and unnecessary given everything else that is going on, but not much I can do about that and as long as she's kind to DD, I'm happy.

Alongside this burgeoning relationship has been a renewed interest in DD. It's nice, if a little suspect, but DD is thrilled so again I'm happy to facilitate. He's seeing her for a few extra days during the Christmas holidays which will be lovely for her.

Now bearing in mind I don't know this woman, haven't spoken to her, not been introduced, have no idea what she looks like... I'm not sure how I'm supposed to respond to this text I got from ex's phone....

Hi Shame,
It's X. Hope u and DD r gud. Can utell her we r lking forward to seeing her on Sunday.
(Ex) told me about Xmas plans and I now it's not really my place, but I'm concernd about how much time DD is spending at our house.
I now ur busy with work but DD needs consistency and we think the going backwards n forwards so much during the week is 2 much 4 her. I know (ex) is happy to c her so much but I think we all shud sit down and work out a plan that works for us all. I feel like I never get to see (Ex) alone anymore and I now u can understand how important 1 on 1 time is at the start of a new relationship (haha!) . Mabe we cud sit down for a coffee on Sunday?

It's wrong on so, so many levels:

  1. Sent from ex's number. Why do you have his phone? Also, there is ZERO chance of him ever saying anything like this.
  2. Is 5 nights a week not enough one to one time? They both WFH at moment too.
  3. Wtf does she mean by the haha? .
  4. The mix of text speak and formal English is massively jarring. Pick one or the other. Commit, woman!
  5. She wants more time to'get to know him'? She's met our child and has moved in, presumably in the space of a few months.

The best bit of all of this is that SHE thinks the additional time with DD is being driven by me when it's actually EX showboating to highlight his amazing father credentials.

It is a glorious mess and half the joy is coming from knowing that Ex is going to be so embarrassed. I can't decide what my next move should be.

Vipers, ho!

OP posts:
Shameme0nce · 07/11/2020 11:58

But it could just be a misunderstanding that I am now overt thinking.

I think this is one of these situations that needs time.

OP posts:
tobedtoMNandfart · 07/11/2020 11:59

Don't fret about the coffee part. You've already discussed it with him. He is 'dealing with it'. No need for coffee. She can fuck right off.

tobedtoMNandfart · 07/11/2020 12:00

If it's a misunderstanding it's caused by her massively overstepping.

tobedtoMNandfart · 07/11/2020 12:00

Stay strong love.

RantyAnty · 07/11/2020 12:04

They both sound horrible.

Your poor DD. :(

He's a walking cliche. He probably originally requested more time so he could wow the naive woman with what a great Dad he is!

He then promptly handed over the care and entertaining of DD to the naive woman.

Now they've backtracked as having a kid cramps his single with the 20 something lifestyle.

Flutter12 · 07/11/2020 12:05

If they had colluded, the plan has worked. I'm now doubting DD going there and will be the bad one for moving to reduce contact over a 'misunderstanding'

This is so true! I hadn’t thought about this at all.

If you reduce contact you are playing right into their hands!
It makes sense now how they got the new gf to message you knowing how you would react - keep everything as they are OP in fact I’d push for more 50/50 contact time to show them that their plan backfired.

Whenlifegivesyoulimoncello · 07/11/2020 12:06

It’s probably a bit of overthinking - I can’t imagine him saying to a new gf “if we say this then I’ll look like the good guy”.

BUT - it seems to have stemmed from the Christmas days - and I can’t help but think it went more like - she said she was unhappy with it and wouldn’t it be nice to spend Christmas all alone together etc - and he said “well I’m not going to habe that argument so you can text shame”

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 07/11/2020 12:13

You are under no obligation to collaborate on parenting plans - not with gf at any rate.
Fwiw I don't think he planned this with her - who would willingly admit to the mother of his child that he and gf fantasized about a child free life, unless he was caught on the hop? He would surely have planned what to say if he and gf had colluded in the original text.
I would send DD as arranged and only withdraw contact if she is made to feel uncomfortable. I think that your DD wouldn't be do happy about visiting if they had made her feel unwelcome. Her happiness and wanting to make cakes does suggest that they are nice when she is there. I do suspect he will be less enthusiastic in the future about seeing DD more than the minimum, but better that DD is with you,bit that's the way it pans out.

Ideasplease322 · 07/11/2020 12:13

You are playing this exactly right.

If you reduced or stopped contact then you would be the bad guy not him. In years to come he could tell dd that he wanted her in his life but you took a massive strop because you were jealous if his girlfriend and stopped all contact as punishment l.

He sounds the type.

I am so sorry your daughter had such a useless dad

GarlicMonkey · 07/11/2020 12:13

Aren't the new girlfriend months amusing? You have to laugh or you'd cry.

My ex must have one because he's suddenly started seeing DS1 (only him, not the others), has paid me some maintenance (£30pw, should be £200) & been sending me messages about my properties because he's having his will done (MY properties, paid for by me & Court ordered as 100% mine). I just ignore him. I ignore any of the GFs too.

Shameme0nce · 07/11/2020 12:17

I'm going to stop overt thinking and just see how it goes. Pretty sure DD will come home after visit bouncing because shes had such a good time. I'm confident Ex will be on amazon right now buying new toys for her for tomorrow as it proves to me how much she is wanted. It doesn't as all she wants is his time, but if he wants to waste loads of cash on pointless rubbish, he can be my guest!

OP posts:
Flutter12 · 07/11/2020 12:17

It’s probably a bit of overthinking - I can’t imagine him saying to a new gf “if we say this then I’ll look like the good guy”

Yes it could be but I’d be surprised if it was for the fact it’s a new relationship and the new gf is already acting like she is involved which is very odd, the new gf has taken his phone without him knowing, she has gone through it behind his back and she is asking the mum to reduce contact - all of which I’d have thought he would have ended the relationship but as he hasn’t I’m wondering if that’s because he knew she had his phone and was texting people from it.

Newmumatlast · 07/11/2020 12:18

@acatcalledjohn

I asked him where she got the idea from and he went very quiet. He admitted that they had had conversations about how nice it is when it's 'just them' and that they'd discussed how it would be if it was just them permanently. It was just fantasy but she got the wrong end of the stick etc.

This I find quite chilling. He can fantasise about abandoning his DD/her not existing?

Wow.

I agree.. thats horrible
Flutter12 · 07/11/2020 12:19

It doesn't as all she wants is his time, but if he wants to waste loads of cash on pointless rubbish, he can be my guest!

Great attitude OP!

CoraPirbright · 07/11/2020 12:20

Good grief the gf really is spectacularly thick, isn't she? Hooking up with a man with a child in the first place when she isn't ready for that kind of set up......and then thinking that a man with whom she dreams about ditching his kid altogether is just the sort of man to plan a future with .......the mind boggles.

I think your response was excellent - clear, concise, measured and extremely sensible.....and all in the face of such provocation! Well done OP!

pinkyredrose · 07/11/2020 12:21

had had conversations about how nice it is when it's 'just them'

That's just fucking horrible. Your DD is only there 2 nights a week and they're saying how nice it is when she's not there! Shock

The girlfriend is an immature idiot and the ex is a massive disappointment.

Newmumatlast · 07/11/2020 12:25

@Flutter12

I'm baffled. She is trying to reach out to you and talk. Is that such a bad thing?

If she was being nice and wanted to introduce herself so the OP doesn’t need to worry about who her DD is around then I’d completely agree and would say she is a nice person.

But she’s not she’s trying to reduce the time that DD spends with her dad which is the opposite of what she should be doing.
As 1 it’s not her place but 2 she should be encouraging him to see his DD as much as he can.

this. As a stepmum I actually think more people who are involved in kids lives should reach out to the parent and show they have the children's best interests at heart and want to work with the ex, even if their own partner is at times being a dick, s children come first.

That isn't what this woman is doing. She's suggesting to meet but the aim is to reduce contact dressed up (not very well)as for the child.

Ideasplease322 · 07/11/2020 12:27

@GarlicMonkey

Aren't the new girlfriend months amusing? You have to laugh or you'd cry.

My ex must have one because he's suddenly started seeing DS1 (only him, not the others), has paid me some maintenance (£30pw, should be £200) & been sending me messages about my properties because he's having his will done (MY properties, paid for by me & Court ordered as 100% mine). I just ignore him. I ignore any of the GFs too.

Why is he sending you messages about your propoerties? Does he think he has some rights to them?

Getting annoyed on your behalf 😊

MusicWithRocksIn1t · 07/11/2020 12:30

I have 2 step kids. For a while we had one of them living with us full time when I was in my early 20s I never discussed how it would be nice to have more 'adult time' i was just happy to see them and we had fun together.

The discussions they are having this early is worrying. I dont think you are over thinking

Ideasplease322 · 07/11/2020 12:33

My best cheeky new gf story belongs to my best Friend.

Had twins with boyfriend, relationship didn’t last. Friend is very successful. Her ex less so. (I am being kind)

New girlfriend camE along (unexpected) to The twins birthday party Which was in friends (beautiful) home.

Gf said Loudly (after a couple of Glasses of wine) we won’t be paying for all this for much longer you know, It’s ridiculous that we live in a shitty flat while paying for you to live like this.

My friend was speechless, Her dad said if you think this house costs £60 a month you are in for a shock😂.

Was very awkward.

dottiedodah · 07/11/2020 12:35

I think if she is in her mid 20s .then he is probably well chuffed that he has managed to"pull" someone young and naive! If a woman did this she would be well and truly shamed and rightly so .However many men get a pretty young thing and all common sense goes out of the window! If he really does want to reduce contact with DD then he sounds like yet another "Disney Dad" who wants all the fun and none of the workload!

JeanBodel · 07/11/2020 12:37

I have nothing good to say about your ex or his GF.

However, I bet most parents, at some time or another, have commented how easy/more fun their life would be without children. I don't think we can read too much in to that.

Viviennemary · 07/11/2020 12:41

I'd be tempted to text back. You're right it is none of your business. However that wouldn't be helpful. She sounds dreadful. Either don't reply at all or say you are open to suggestions. The relationship probably won't last anyway so bear that in mind.

Fredelliottisayfredelliott · 07/11/2020 12:47

You handled that well OP! Its absolutely none of her business and you were right to ignore her and speak to your ex.

YippeeKayakOtherBuckets · 07/11/2020 12:51

@Ideasplease322

My best cheeky new gf story belongs to my best Friend.

Had twins with boyfriend, relationship didn’t last. Friend is very successful. Her ex less so. (I am being kind)

New girlfriend camE along (unexpected) to The twins birthday party Which was in friends (beautiful) home.

Gf said Loudly (after a couple of Glasses of wine) we won’t be paying for all this for much longer you know, It’s ridiculous that we live in a shitty flat while paying for you to live like this.

My friend was speechless, Her dad said if you think this house costs £60 a month you are in for a shock😂.

Was very awkward.

This is amazing.