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Received text from Ex's new girlfriend. AIBU to be thrilled that he will soon by dying of shame?

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Shameme0nce · 06/11/2020 17:55

God, I hope she's not on here!!

EXH and I have been apart for 4 years. We were together for 12 years and we split when DD was 5. I won't go into the ins and outs of the relationship but he checked out years before the split and, while I could never prove it, I suspect he was looking around. Marriage had been rocky for a number of reasons but, ultimately, it was his decision to split.

He's always been a challenge in terms of contact and maintenance. Don't get me wrong, he's a good dad but very much of the camp that his responsibility ends the second his day is up and it has been a battle to get to the point where we are at now where DD sees him two nights each week.

He Threw strops about using annual leave to cover a portion of school holidays but is always first to 'claim' her for the fun stuff like birthdays, Christmas, Halloween etc. The man wants to make memories but not deal with the drudgery and inconvenience of day to day life (one of the many reasons we are not compatible now!). I don't let him away with this behaviour but have learned over the years when to pick my battles.

Anyhow, about 18 months on from our split, I met my DP. I was very slow to bring him into my life because of DD and he moved in with us very recently, after two and a half years together. His relationship with DD is lovely but he respects the fact he's not her dad so, while supportive of my battles with Ex, he largely keeps out of it.

I am really not sure of how many 'girlfriends' ex has had. To his credit, he's never introduced any of them to DD as they clearly weren't important enough.

He has, however, in the last few months been seeing a woman in her mid 20s.
DD seems to like her. I feel the introduction was a bit soon and unnecessary given everything else that is going on, but not much I can do about that and as long as she's kind to DD, I'm happy.

Alongside this burgeoning relationship has been a renewed interest in DD. It's nice, if a little suspect, but DD is thrilled so again I'm happy to facilitate. He's seeing her for a few extra days during the Christmas holidays which will be lovely for her.

Now bearing in mind I don't know this woman, haven't spoken to her, not been introduced, have no idea what she looks like... I'm not sure how I'm supposed to respond to this text I got from ex's phone....

Hi Shame,
It's X. Hope u and DD r gud. Can utell her we r lking forward to seeing her on Sunday.
(Ex) told me about Xmas plans and I now it's not really my place, but I'm concernd about how much time DD is spending at our house.
I now ur busy with work but DD needs consistency and we think the going backwards n forwards so much during the week is 2 much 4 her. I know (ex) is happy to c her so much but I think we all shud sit down and work out a plan that works for us all. I feel like I never get to see (Ex) alone anymore and I now u can understand how important 1 on 1 time is at the start of a new relationship (haha!) . Mabe we cud sit down for a coffee on Sunday?

It's wrong on so, so many levels:

  1. Sent from ex's number. Why do you have his phone? Also, there is ZERO chance of him ever saying anything like this.
  2. Is 5 nights a week not enough one to one time? They both WFH at moment too.
  3. Wtf does she mean by the haha? .
  4. The mix of text speak and formal English is massively jarring. Pick one or the other. Commit, woman!
  5. She wants more time to'get to know him'? She's met our child and has moved in, presumably in the space of a few months.

The best bit of all of this is that SHE thinks the additional time with DD is being driven by me when it's actually EX showboating to highlight his amazing father credentials.

It is a glorious mess and half the joy is coming from knowing that Ex is going to be so embarrassed. I can't decide what my next move should be.

Vipers, ho!

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acatcalledjohn · 07/11/2020 10:41

I asked him where she got the idea from and he went very quiet. He admitted that they had had conversations about how nice it is when it's 'just them' and that they'd discussed how it would be if it was just them permanently. It was just fantasy but she got the wrong end of the stick etc.

This I find quite chilling. He can fantasise about abandoning his DD/her not existing?

Wow.

SpongeWorthy · 07/11/2020 10:42

He admitted that they had had conversations about how nice it is when it's 'just them' and that they'd discussed how it would be if it was just them permanently. It was just fantasy but she got the wrong end of the stick etc.

Ugh imagine fantasising about your child not existing, to the extent your new partner told the mother of that child they didn't want her around much. Christ. What a prick. He doesn't sound like a good dad OP, he sounds like a Disney dad who uses your little girl as a prop to position himself as a good dad. You sound lovely, sensible and patient, thank god she has you!

MLMbotsgoaway · 07/11/2020 10:44

You don’t have to answer this OP - but you mentioned that the GF is mid twenties. How old is exh?
To be honest if he really didn’t know about it - this should really wake him up to the reality of dating/having a relationship when you’re a parent.

Flutter12 · 07/11/2020 10:54

You’ve handled it perfectly OP.

It is one thing to wish you had more time for yourself but when you have 5/7 days to yourself and your still wanting more then it’s a complete joke!

The new gf needs to be with someone who doesn’t want kids.

If I only saw my DCs 2 days a week and my partner said he wished I could see them less so we’d have more time together he’d be out the door before he could even finish his sentence!

Flutter12 · 07/11/2020 10:55

This relationship isn’t going to last. I would be tempted to explain this to your ex that you don’t think it’s a good idea that the new gf is there as she is won’t be there for long and you don’t want people in and out of her life.

BertiesLanding · 07/11/2020 10:58

If the relationship lasts, then he has, essentially, made his choice. I'm sorry you and your DD are having to deal with this, OP.

wizzbangfizz · 07/11/2020 10:59

I'd be absolutely disgusted to get a text like this and it doesn't bode well. If 5 days total alone time isn't enough for her then god help them.

KodakNancyEurope · 07/11/2020 11:00

She sounds pretty unhinged tbh however I do wonder if EXH is part to blame for painting a fantasy of GF and him having a perfect life together just them and it’s rocket fuelled her to try and make it happen?
For me, I would be incandescent and actually halting DD going to her DFs until you have reassurances and evidence this would never happen again.

ThePluckOfTheCoward · 07/11/2020 11:13

I think you handled that conversation extremely well Op and sadly, I think you are right about contact probably reducing in the near future. Your poor DD, thank goodness she doesn't know what a shit she has for a father, at least not yet.

Pumpkintopf · 07/11/2020 11:20

I asked him where she got the idea from and he went very quiet. He admitted that they had had conversations about how nice it is when it's 'just them' and that they'd discussed how it would be if it was just them permanently. It was just fantasy but she got the wrong end of the stick etc.

This is awful. What kind of parent 'fantasises' about not 'having' to see their child anymore, FFS!

Teensandfuture · 07/11/2020 11:30

That's Exh vague way of saying he will be reducing contact. He's a coward and shite to make it look like its his gf's idea, when he remains to be seen as a good dad. He's scared to tell you the truth OP. The truth that he wants to concentrate on his new relationship more than being a father

AzraiL · 07/11/2020 11:30

If they were both fantasising about not having DD, then that message came from both of them.

marveloustimeruiningeverything · 07/11/2020 11:32

How awful to engage in his selfish girlfriend's 'what if's' about not having his daughter around.

And she's still there.

Arsehole.

Shameme0nce · 07/11/2020 11:33

Ex is ate 30s so she's significantly younger. I think he's been swept away with the excitement of youth and is perhaps using her to relive what he considers his 'lost years' with me.

I'm so disappointed in him. I can't know the tone of the fantasy talks they had. From what he's saying, he was meaning more that it would be nice if they had more 'adult', time and she's put two and two together and got five. I'm not sure if I believe it but I'm going to give it time to make a judgement on that one.

If they had colluded, the plan has worked. I'm now doubting DD going there and will be the bad one for moving to reduce contact over a 'misunderstanding'

DD is totally oblivious and wants to make her dad and GF cupcakes to take over tomorrow. Sorry DD, we've run out of flour (pushed it right to the back of cupboard and camouflaged with tins of baked beans)

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SpongeWorthy · 07/11/2020 11:34

@Shameme0nce

Ex is ate 30s so she's significantly younger. I think he's been swept away with the excitement of youth and is perhaps using her to relive what he considers his 'lost years' with me.

I'm so disappointed in him. I can't know the tone of the fantasy talks they had. From what he's saying, he was meaning more that it would be nice if they had more 'adult', time and she's put two and two together and got five. I'm not sure if I believe it but I'm going to give it time to make a judgement on that one.

If they had colluded, the plan has worked. I'm now doubting DD going there and will be the bad one for moving to reduce contact over a 'misunderstanding'

DD is totally oblivious and wants to make her dad and GF cupcakes to take over tomorrow. Sorry DD, we've run out of flour (pushed it right to the back of cupboard and camouflaged with tins of baked beans)

Bless her your little girl sounds so lovely!
Whatsonmymindgrapes · 07/11/2020 11:35

Your poor daughter, this new gf obviously wants him all to herself and have new children without him. I hope you’re daughter is ok x

Arthersleep · 07/11/2020 11:40

How could he even have entered into a conversation about how nice it would be if it was just the two of them permanently?!!!! What an absolute arse!! And when he only has her two days a week??!! Even if he was tired, it's not the sort of thing that you would fantasize about is it? You might fantasize about having a break as a full time parent, but to fantasize about not seeing your own child that you don't see much of anyway is unbelievably shit!

Teensandfuture · 07/11/2020 11:40

Don't push the flour to the back of cupboard, OP.

Let her make cupcakes but for everyone.

DD should still go if plans not been cancelled by him. Don't make it easy for them. He still has a responsibility to look after her, doesn't matter what they fantasise about!

Arthersleep · 07/11/2020 11:41

DD is totally oblivious and wants to make her dad and GF cupcakes to take over tomorrow. Sorry DD, we've run out of flour (pushed it right to the back of cupboard and camouflaged with tins of baked beans)

..... laxatives??

BloggersBlog · 07/11/2020 11:43

Well handled @Shameme0nce. Excellent response.

Though him saying she has put 2 +2 =5 I am not so sure. I think she has got the correct number - who the hell "fantasises" about it "being just them" Angry. If it is him then he is vile, if it is her then why get involved with a man who is a father

As a PP said, that is chilling

Whenlifegivesyoulimoncello · 07/11/2020 11:47

Does your DD know about the extra days at Christmas? I’d be thinking of dialling that back - as it sounds like they’re going to be messing you/dd around.

DoesThisMakeSence · 07/11/2020 11:47

If they had colluded, the plan has worked. I'm now doubting DD going there and will be the bad one for moving to reduce contact over a 'misunderstanding

Op this paragraph from you last post is what i was just about to write.
I bet any money they sat and wrote it together, hoping you would then flip and block contact.
Your the bad guy. They get more chidl free time while being the reasonable ones who tried to aproach you and talk 'camly'
You have handled the situation amazing.
I must be honest my anger would have taken over and i would have fed into their rubbish.
You maybe right they will now just phase out contact but whatever happens in time your daughter will be fine with you supporting her though this Flowers

Nikori · 07/11/2020 11:47

While I have no control over who he brings into his own life, I won't have DD pushed out or made to feel unwelcome so if new GF is sticking around she has to either stay out of DDs way during contact time or get an attitude adjustment sharpish.

I understand that you are upset, but you have absolutely no right to demand this. He is her father and he gets to choose who she sees or doesn't see during his contact time. You need to calm down. He said that he was dealing with it so you need to let it go.

Guardsman18 · 07/11/2020 11:50

I wish I was as strong as you sound Shame. Can I ask - is DD not going to see him tomorrow?

Shameme0nce · 07/11/2020 11:56

DD is going over as planned tomorrow. I haven't been in his house since everything started in March so there's no way tomorrow will be the day I break that. I think offering to come in for coffee was her/their way of seeming reasonable and me refusing (because I have to due to the fact we're not allowed in houses) paints me as the one not wanting to collaborate in parenting plans.

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