To be angry with this

[JKDcot]

Just went out to buy lunch with my baby strapped to me in a sling and my dog on lead. A woman had her dog off lead who ran down my drive way and was trying to pay roughly with my dog then it jumped up and started pawing me where my baby is in the sling.

I told her to get her dog off my land and keep it on lead if she can’t control it. She started shouting at me saying I was rude and mean.

Sorry but can’t people just apologise and step up when they know they’re in the wrong? Would you have reacted the same? It’s my property, my dog and baby and she should have apologised

YANBU. That would make me angry too. She should definitely have apologised and should have her dog on a lead when walking past homes.

YNBU because that sounds like a pretty horrible experience. But I am imagine that you were emotional and it doesn’t sound like you were particularly even handed in what you said so her reaction is not surprising. She was still in the wrong though.

YANBU

I often have my baby In a sling when walking my dog and would have been angry in these circumstances.

The only time I'm not bothered if another dog playfully jumps up at me is if we're somewhere like a field and they're playing with my dog and just a bit overexcited. At least I'm normally braced for something like that and keeping a watchful eye

I've frequently had to say "you should keep your dog on a lead if you cant control it" when one has jumped up at my toddler. Never had an apology yet. Dicks.

YANBU, dogs should always be leashed if they can’t walk to heel or be trusted not to stray! I firmly believe nobody should be approached by an unknown dog.

I’d have been furious in your shoes, especially as you had baby in a sling and the dog could easily have tripped you up or jumped up at you!

I wouldn’t mind in a dog park. But on my land in my drive way and she said I’m being mean??

@vincettenoir emotional? For pointing out the obvious that the woman should control her dog?

A dog that is out on a public road off the lead should not be running up people's driveways and unable to be called back. It clearly needs to be on a lead. It should not be doing that anywhere really, and in a park I would still be upset if that happened.

The general rule is that if a dog is on a lead it is on a lead for a reason, and an off lead dog should not be running up to it wanting to play, the owner should be asking first before allowing the dog to approach. However on your driveway it's entirely unacceptable. Imagine if your dog had been scared and bolted, it could have pulled you over (obviously I don't know the size/strength of your dog!)

I don't know what you said, OP, but if someone shouted angrily at me, then I wouldn't apologise. If you called out 'please come and get your dog, I'm wearing a baby!', then I'd rush in apologetically.

Very occasionally I've been shouted at, usually completely unreasonably. When it is reasonable, it's hard to apologise because of the shouting- you lost the moral high ground when you shout, imo.

Her dog shouldn't have been on your drive, shouldn't have jumped up at you, and should have been on a lead, I agree.

You were rude. Any chance of an apology went out the window at that point.

The onus was on the woman to get her dog under control, without waiting for OP to complain.

YANBU, the other owner was 100% in the wrong.

Off topic I know but isn't it dangerous to walk your dog with a baby in a sling?

What would've happened if the other dog started attacking yours and jumped up at you, as you tried to help it?

rude and mean

What is she, 12?!

Yanbu.

@Hayeahnobut

You were rude. Any chance of an apology went out the window at that point.

oh give over

I get you OP, seems to be more and more common that people clearly in the wrong turns things around because somehow, they seem incapable of just accepting they are caring and apologise accordingly.

Finally enough, you then get the people who are constantly apologising even when what they do is not really such a bother.

TBF if you accuse someone of not being able to control their dog, even if you're right, they're going to get defensive.

Better to just say 'Please call your dog off', although I get it's not so easy in the heat of things when you're being pawed/your dog threatened etc.

But of course she should have been mortified.

An uncontrolled dog runs onto ops property, and she's rude for calling the owner out?! The dog should be trained better AND on a lead.

If some random dog had jumped up at me when I had DD strapped to my front in a sling, I'd have kicked the bloody thing away.

Control your dogs, people.

@dontdisturbmenow

I get you OP, seems to be more and more common that people clearly in the wrong turns things around because somehow, they seem incapable of just accepting they are caring and apologise accordingly.

Finally enough, you then get the people who are constantly apologising even when what they do is not really such a bother.

So true - I was turning right into a road, I had indicated, stopped for a car to pass in the other direction, then moved. A person in a van was pulling right out of the road, she carried on and almost hit me. She was clearly in the wrong but was shouting and gesticulating at me very angrily!

In this instance I'm sure the OP wouldn't be posting if the other person had called her dog away immediately and popped it on the lead, as she should have done.

YANBU.

It is so frustrating and sad that some selfish dog owners give the rest of us a bad name isn't it.

I had a row with a woman whose huge dog was jumping all over me and my dog and she couldn't call her back. She said I should walk somewhere else. I said people should not be forced to interact with her dog just because she has no control over it, whether that interaction is "friendly" or not. My dog isn't allowed to approach other dogs on leads, it's polite and safer for everyone.

That said, I did see a woman walking through the muddy common in white jeans the other day. Now that's just asking for trouble!

You were rude. Any chance of an apology went out the window at that point.

Really

YANBU, she was totally in the wrong.

@Hayeahnobut

You were rude. Any chance of an apology went out the window at that point.

Rude?

The woman should have had her dog under control. She didn't and there is potential there for an accident.

Her dog was out of control. It shouldn’t be on your property. Jumping up at a person carrying a baby could end really badly.
And yes I have dogs.
They are on leads when not safe to be off lead. They are trained to come and stand still by me when small children, runners, cyclist or horses pass.