To be angry with this

[JKDcot]

Just went out to buy lunch with my baby strapped to me in a sling and my dog on lead. A woman had her dog off lead who ran down my drive way and was trying to pay roughly with my dog then it jumped up and started pawing me where my baby is in the sling.

I told her to get her dog off my land and keep it on lead if she can’t control it. She started shouting at me saying I was rude and mean.

Sorry but can’t people just apologise and step up when they know they’re in the wrong? Would you have reacted the same? It’s my property, my dog and baby and she should have apologised

If you aggressively yell at people (I say, get orff my land!) and they’re embarrassed and in a bit of a flap, chances are they will respond defensively and rudely.

I say that as a rural landowner, dog owner and baby owner.

Op when you have strange dogs jumping up at you and your baby on your driveway you should always be polite. Common sense really innit?

If, however, you let your dog off the lead and it runs into someone else's driveway, and starts jumping up at them and their baby, you are entitled to behave like a cunt. HTH.

Maybe it's how you said it?

Oh and just to be clear, whilst you are being polite, you can report the incident to the police as the dog is out of control.

(Only as long as you don't shout at the owner, then you are a big meanie for not letting them do it, and the police will arrest you instead and have your dog PTS. Its the law. Google it. HTH2)

She was in the wrong, you were not rude. Anything could have happened!

She lost the right to a 'reasonable' response when she let her dog run wild in your front garden and drive. YANBU.

Having a dog jump up at you uninvited is not acceptable at any time. Never mind in your own driveway, with a baby strapped to your front.

If dogs cannot be trusted not to jump up, they should remain on a lead at all times.

Yanbu. Something similar happened to me once. I had baby in a sling and a dog jumped up and bit my babies shoe off. The owner ran over shouting 'it's OK hes very friendly' whilst dog was jumping up all over us. Very friendly! She had to prize the shoe out of the dogs mouth. I didn't say much because I just wanted to remove us to safety. I was scared and annoyed enough to have given her an ear bashing if I wasn't so keen to escape so I get where you are coming from. I am a dog owner so not at all anti dog but hate it when dogs run up to my kids. You have no idea if it's 'friendly' or not.

the owner was vu. not judging as everyone has to make their own decisions about this stuff. but i certainly wouldn't want to walk my dog with a baby in a sling, incase there was an incident and i was pulled on the lead or another dog attacked mine.

Gosh if she thinks that's mean she'd better not walk her dog where I live, I'd have threatened to shoot the bloody thing! Wouldn't do it obviously (probably) 😂

You were definitely not rude. I love dogs (have 3 of them) but this is unacceptable. No way would I let any of my dogs jump up at anyone, let alone someone with a baby. If I thought there was even a tiny chance that would happen, I would put them back on the lead.

I also hate when people turn it back on you and don’t apologise. When my dog was a puppy, and we were still training, I accidentally dropped her lead and she bolted toward another dog. I was mortified and apologised. They were lovely about it but I’d understand if there were annoyed as their dog was on a lead and mine went up to them. It was my mistake

not the dogs fault, just another neglectful owner not training their dog properly.

Just wow, some of you! The OP did NOTHING wrong and the other dog owner should've been the one apologizing. The dog could've easily knocked her down and injured her baby.

@Hayeahnobut

You were rude. Any chance of an apology went out the window at that point.

Bollocks.

What do you want mumsnet to do about it?

Completely agree with you. Our land is dog-free as it is our cats' territory. In fact, if a friend brings a dog with them, then that's OK but the dog stays outside the house; the cats can cope with that but inside the house is a step too far.

We have had strangers let tehir dogs run about on our front bit (which is quite large) but none have got shirty when asked to remove the dog.

This pisses me off too. Especially in the winter when the dog is covered in mud. The owner appears a few minutes later "oh he is friendly!" yeah... Our friend said his dog was friendly... Until it attacked my child and we had to go to A&E for stitches. After this I don't even try to hide the fact I do not like dogs (from other adults I mean, I don't want to encourage fear of dogs to the point of phobia in my child obviously).

YANBU, dogs should be on leads unless 100% controlled by the owner. One of mine is very reactive to other dogs and often has a go at them when they come trotting over off lead then the owners have a go at me as if it's my fault they can't control their dog

Sounds to be like she was a bit taken aback by your reaction and that's why she didn't apologise and called you rude but that doesn't stop her being in the wrong. I would have said the same thing in your shoes.

Why should you be polite about this. I am scared of dogs and would be furious if an owner let it run up and jump on me in my driveway - that’s without a baby. Some dog owners are so entitled- their dog is more important than the rights of other people not to have their space invaded by an animal they don’t like or trust. You were not being mean - she was being an idiot

I am a dog lover and YANBU.

@LindaEllen

Having a dog jump up at you uninvited is not acceptable at any time. Never mind in your own driveway, with a baby strapped to your front.

If dogs cannot be trusted not to jump up, they should remain on a lead at all times.

^ This.

@ChikiTIKI

This pisses me off too. Especially in the winter when the dog is covered in mud. The owner appears a few minutes later "oh he is friendly!" yeah... Our friend said his dog was friendly... Until it attacked my child and we had to go to A&E for stitches. After this I don't even try to hide the fact I do not like dogs (from other adults I mean, I don't want to encourage fear of dogs to the point of phobia in my child obviously).

Yes the "oh he's friendly" chat gets my goat too, their dog might be friendly but the ones they go bounding up to might not be, like mine or as you say someone could be phobic. It's irresponsible dog ownership.

@Sargass0

What do you want mumsnet to do about it?

Oh I don't know, discuss it? As is usual on a discussion forum 🤷🏻‍♀️

@JKDcot

YANBU.

She was in the wrong (clearly) and very rude.

She would have been 'in the wrong' even if you weren't on your own land, silly cow. Gives dog owners a bad name!

'S/he's friendly'.

Lots of retorts...

I'm not

& bloody muddy, call it off, now

IDGAF

So? Get it on a lead. NOW.

& I love dogs, I don't mind them jumping up etc. but my best friend is terrified so I'm used to getting between her & dogs.

I’ma dog owner and love dogs too. I just couldn’t believe her nerve getting angry with me when I said get your dog away from me, my baby and my dog in my own property. Still furious! She should have apologised immediately and not let her dog off lead if age can’t control it.

I’m glad others agree. Thanks for sharing comments. Forums are useful to vent especially at the moment when you spend most of the day alone