To be angry with this

[JKDcot]

Just went out to buy lunch with my baby strapped to me in a sling and my dog on lead. A woman had her dog off lead who ran down my drive way and was trying to pay roughly with my dog then it jumped up and started pawing me where my baby is in the sling.

I told her to get her dog off my land and keep it on lead if she can’t control it. She started shouting at me saying I was rude and mean.

Sorry but can’t people just apologise and step up when they know they’re in the wrong? Would you have reacted the same? It’s my property, my dog and baby and she should have apologised

Yes @dontdisturbmenow I agree with you and the OP was well within her rights to remonstrate with this person. A lot of people just want an argument instead of just apologising and diffusing the situation. I spoke to a van driver today who has been parking on our property and explained I had no issue with him parking there if he had just asked us prior to doing it but I would prefer that he didn’t park on the grass verge as I have Spring bulbs in there. He was very rude and accused me of being nasty! Stormed off saying ‘well I will park somewhere else’ Yes please do ha ha !

yanbu.

as I have been bitten by a dog before this would terrify me, and that's without if I was also wearing my baby. dog should be on a lead if you cannot control it - you are absolutely right.

@picklemewalnuts

I don't know what you said, OP, but if someone shouted angrily at me, then I wouldn't apologise. If you called out 'please come and get your dog, I'm wearing a baby!', then I'd rush in apologetically.

Very occasionally I've been shouted at, usually completely unreasonably. When it is reasonable, it's hard to apologise because of the shouting- you lost the moral high ground when you shout, imo.

Her dog shouldn't have been on your drive, shouldn't have jumped up at you, and should have been on a lead, I agree.

Do you understand what adrenaline does? Fight or flight? She was alarmed becuase of her Baby and the dog being in a place she wasn’t expecting it. Do you expect everyone to be calm and measured when they are alarmed or scared? Or just when you have an annoying dog and expect everyone to love it?

I'd file this under 'minor inconveniences' and get on with my day. I personally wouldn't have been as blunt as you, I find people tend to mirror the attitude you give off and I can't be arsed with crossness so always would have gone with an easy-going smile and request.
I wouldn't be alarmed by a dog coming over to play though, even if it was 'on my property' so I supposed it's easy to say I would be relaxed about it.

@picklemewalnuts

I don't know what you said, OP, but if someone shouted angrily at me, then I wouldn't apologise. If you called out 'please come and get your dog, I'm wearing a baby!', then I'd rush in apologetically.

Very occasionally I've been shouted at, usually completely unreasonably. When it is reasonable, it's hard to apologise because of the shouting- you lost the moral high ground when you shout, imo.

Her dog shouldn't have been on your drive, shouldn't have jumped up at you, and should have been on a lead, I agree.

This is VERY odd to me. Her baby was in a sling which means the legs were dangling. An unknown dog ran in, jumped up and pawed her. So many things could have gone wrong in that moment - the babies leg were vunerable, there could have been a fight between the two dogs, the op could have lost her balance, I mean the list is endless. Why the owner of said dog would be offended by a "shout", and not apologose PROFUSELY and IMMEDIATELY is beyond me. It is not a case of "moral high ground", that is utter crud. The dog owner needs to keep the dog in check. At. All.Times.

I wouldn’t mind in a dog park

I have a dog. I would mind, even in a dog park. I take my dog out before work, and several times have had other people's muddy dogs fling themselves onto me, dirtying a clean outfit. They haven't apologised. In fact, they argue their corner. I wear waterproofs now, but I shouldn't have to.

I suppose the irresponsible owners (no leads) will have the badly behaved dogs (no discipline) It gives us all a bad name.

Yanbu.

She was a nob head.

The woman should have had her dog on a lead, it shouldn’t have been able to go into your drive let alone jump about whilst in a public place, I’m afraid I’d have had a few choice words if I was called mean n rude, you were not being unreasonable

Reminds me a bit of the day some woman chucked her lit cigarette end behind her without looking and it landed on my husbands leg and burnt a hole in his trousers. He wasn’t particularly polite in pointing out what she’d done but she was awful and had a massive go about him being rude. Some people are just 100% incapable of accepting they are wrong. Ideally sure you’d be polite when pointing it out but if I just did something potentially dangerous and a bit stupid even if someone was rude pointing that out I’d still apologise

YANBU. I have a jumpy dog, I keep her on the lead at all times. If this happened I'd be utterly fucking mortified. Hope you and your baby are okay.

I have a dog but no baby - YANBU. I'd have been very put out if another dog owner let their dog run into my garden and jump all over us and I would never allow my dog to do that.

• and a dog owner is responsible for their dog, so she's in the wrong legally as well as morally.

@1FootInTheRave

Yanbu.

She was a nob head.

this is the correct answer

YANBU. And if I had my baby in a sling as a dog that I didn't know came up to me and started climbing up at me I would probably do things under threat that I wouldn't normally do. Such as shout etc. So definitely NBU.
There's going to be more incident this year I think with dogs as so many daft people who shouldn't own them have been getting them for their benefit only and not thinking of the dogs interest at all.

I don't know what you said, OP, but if someone shouted angrily at me, then I wouldn't apologise. If you called out 'please come and get your dog, I'm wearing a baby!', then I'd rush in apologetically

Maybe OP shouted because she was shocked and worried (by the dog suddenly running up to her when she had her own leashed dog and baby)? I don’t think shouting angrily is losing moral high ground in that situation.

The woman whose dog was out of control and running onto driveways was clearly in the wrong and needed telling off!

I’d do the same if a dog ran into my front yard and the other didn’t immediately apologise and recall.

The woman is totally unreasonable op. Not acceptable to be off lead if it can't be controlled.

Report to police. I am sick of these entitled fuckers who think a dog without a lead is a good thing around other people’s children.

I’m generally in yard boots, that dog would have been drop kicked. On a road, I keep mine on a lead. He is not allowed to approach people who haven’t said it’s ok. Plus, her dog would have been dead, mine is very very dog aggressive and is kept very carefully away from other dogs. Loose bouncy off lead dogs are my worst nightmare.

Yanbu, your reaction was instinctive and completely natural. The other woman obviously hasn’t bothered to train her dog.

Good for you OP sorry you had an unpleasant experience.

i don't want your dog jumping up me, i don't care how friendly it is.