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Allthestarsarecloser · 01/11/2020 08:44

I work at a university on the front line seeing students 1-1 (I work in student support) and have continued to see students this term at a distance & with measures in place. ALL the students I have seen have been grateful for the human contact.

I also have 2 kids in primary and secondary. I want them to stay in school as my eldest had to have counselling after the last lockdown.

Aibu to say that schools need to stay open and I say that as someone on the front line.

YABU - they should shut
YANBU- they need to stay open

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MistressIggi · 04/11/2020 10:34

Tierstierstiers so if you agree with it, it's honesty? and what other teachers say is dishonest?

OverTheRainbow88 · 04/11/2020 12:02

If your workload increased then I think you weren’t Using your time efficiently

Plenty of teachers taught live online every day you know!

Yes I did say unless you taught online lessons.

MistressIggi · 04/11/2020 12:13

I wonder if you are in a union Rainbow as you certainly have no concept of solidarity.
Or that other people's lives and workplaces are different to yours.

Fluffybutter · 04/11/2020 12:17

So sick of the bullshit “close the schools” .
Only ones I’ve seen say it are the ones who hate the school run anyway and were happy enough to go to their friends or the beaches during the first lockdown with a shit ton of others so obviously not that worried ,just selfish,lazy arseholes ..
I’m not saying “all” just the ones I’ve personally seen .

Fluffybutter · 04/11/2020 12:19

@eeek88

I am a teacher (Year 5 and 6), with no children. I like where I live, have plenty of socially distanced hobbies I can get on with at home, and get on with my partner. If schools close I remain on full pay but my workload is halved.

I AM STRONGLY IN FAVOUR OF SCHOOLS REMAINING OPEN.
The children need us, and each other.
Even though my pupils' parents did a pretty incredible job of home schooling, school does a better job of education, in nearly all cases. Too many children have lost momentum / lost confidence / picked up misconceptions / regressed - and this is in a school with remarkably few welfare concerns or children living in poverty. Our pupils must be some of the most privileged in the country (none are living in cramped flats, for example, and we are not aware of any families who would have struggled to feed their children during lockdown) so if this lot are better off at school, I'm very certain that the rest of the country are too.

Plus, selfishly, I'm enjoying being around the children and my colleagues, and work is a pleasant distraction from pandemic boredom. I've never worked so hard in my life - because there's nothing else to do.

Love your post, big fan!
Newmummy1234 · 04/11/2020 12:21

I personally think there should be a choice for parents to send or not. I’m a teacher and have children. My children NEED to be at school as do the children I teach but I also completely understand parents needing to work or being anxious

OverTheRainbow88 · 04/11/2020 12:36

@MistressIggi

Yes have always been part of a Union, have taken part industrial action; but keeping schools open now during covid is something I feel passionate about.

I made it clear I was talking about my experience and that of my many colleagues.

rumandbiscuits · 04/11/2020 12:48

YANBU

Feministicon · 04/11/2020 18:06

@Fluffybutter

So sick of the bullshit “close the schools” . Only ones I’ve seen say it are the ones who hate the school run anyway and were happy enough to go to their friends or the beaches during the first lockdown with a shit ton of others so obviously not that worried ,just selfish,lazy arseholes .. I’m not saying “all” just the ones I’ve personally seen .
That’s what I’ve seen too I’m afraid, also people that don’t bother too much with home schooling at all.
Lianne1977 · 04/11/2020 20:07

So tonight my eldest (7yrs) came out of school in floods of tears. Naturally I was very concerned and discovered her distress was that she couldn’t go to the park with her friend from her class tonight (friend was being picked up by grandparents) we had tried since school started back to go to the park in the hope of her seeing a friend at least once a week and it made her so happy. For all of you saying shut the schools just think about this!

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 04/11/2020 20:23

@Lianne1977

So tonight my eldest (7yrs) came out of school in floods of tears. Naturally I was very concerned and discovered her distress was that she couldn’t go to the park with her friend from her class tonight (friend was being picked up by grandparents) we had tried since school started back to go to the park in the hope of her seeing a friend at least once a week and it made her so happy. For all of you saying shut the schools just think about this!
Not sure what that has to do with schools and whether they are closed or open. Parks are public places and nothing to do with schools and subject to different rules etc re covid.
Legooo · 04/11/2020 22:29

Had a message earlier today to say that a class in my sons primary was being sent home due to a positive COVID case, but not to worry, as it wasn’t my ds’s class.

Called by the school this evening, they now have another confirmed case...in ds’s class. DH was shielding so we will be on hot coals for the next two weeks.

Dd is getting increasingly upset, doesn’t want to miss out in school but also very worried (despite us trying to shield her from it) that she will bring COVID home to DH.

Strange, no one was bothering to wear a mask except for us. Suddenly saw a sea of them at pick up this afternoon Hmm

OverTheRainbowLiesOz · 05/11/2020 18:39

Multiple cases in daughter's school now. Many of the cases are asymptomatic. She is wearing a mask to teach.

Freddiefox · 05/11/2020 18:48

@Lianne1977

So tonight my eldest (7yrs) came out of school in floods of tears. Naturally I was very concerned and discovered her distress was that she couldn’t go to the park with her friend from her class tonight (friend was being picked up by grandparents) we had tried since school started back to go to the park in the hope of her seeing a friend at least once a week and it made her so happy. For all of you saying shut the schools just think about this!
I tho m you need to manage your child’s expectations to be honest. I don’t really understand what stopped you meeting a friend in the park over the last few months.
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OverTheRainbowLiesOz · 05/11/2020 19:06

Schools were open for key workers all the way through lockdown.

Nicknacky · 05/11/2020 20:45

OverTheRainbowLiesOz I keep reading that on here. I certainly wasn’t able to access that schooling AND I lost my childminder as she refused to provide care during lockdown for us.

So no, schools weren’t open to all key workers.

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 05/11/2020 20:49

I don't think its the kids. The kids aren't having all night parties and getting fined raises eyebrow at uni students and they have all been moving around the country to get to their digs

OverTheRainbowLiesOz · 05/11/2020 21:13

I can only go by daughter's school and key workers got places for their children.

If they do close this should be a major priority. In fact they should be planning for it as schools might close by default due to sickness absence.

OverTheRainbowLiesOz · 05/11/2020 21:14

And some of it is the kids. They are catching covid and taking it home.

Lovemusic33 · 05/11/2020 21:53

My DD’s are at different schools in different county’s, neither schools have had any cases. I would ideally like schools to stay open, cases are pretty low here, I could understand if cases were higher and I understand why teachers are scared in high case areas.

farangatang · 08/11/2020 09:41

@lilmishap

School School gate. Waiting for kids at gate or in playground.

Huge section of society still mixing.
Many of us have jobs where we work with people who don't have kids.

What's the point in a circuit break if it's not a break it's just a slight reduction.

^ This ^

My daughter met her '1 friend allowed outside' yesterday and said many shops were still open and it seemed negligibly different to when we were not in the current 'lockdown'.

My school has thankfully had no recognised cases (no doubt there is a proportion of asymptomatic ones that haven't been identified). I don't want schools to 'close' again as workload for all at our school increased significantly between delivering a full timetable of live lessons each day (plus online assemblies, form times, parents' evenings and preparing 'virtual events'). Learning & discovering a huge amount of new technology in a very short time, adapting every curriculum (and in many cases having to totally rewrite and re-resource various units of work to adjust for the lack of physical resources that are only available in school and would enable students to access using resources available to them at home / create additional content to cover time where students would normally be absent for week-long residential trips or other outings planned for the Summer term / increased marking / time taken to respond to individual student comments on GC in writing rather than just being able to speak to them / increased volume of parent emails etc..etc...etc...) PLUS supervising in-school and in-person keyworker children (often whilst having to deliver a live lesson to a totally different group of children whilst helping the keyworker kids directly in front of you to access their own live lessons via computer and deal remotely with the inevitable technical issues your 30+ children at home were having). Supervising Easter holiday and half-term breaks/lunches/covering the reception desk when office staff were furloughed etc... all of this made for regular 12-14 hour working days and working from after the Feb half term to the end of the Summer Term without the usual holiday breaks. I never want to do that again!!

BUT what is the point of piecemeal restrictions which will only extend the amount of time those least able to manage without work (and who are not supported by any furlough/government support) will have to suffer?

OverTheRainbow88 · 08/11/2020 10:10

We’ve currently got 1000 kids off self isolating as had 4 cases across year groups.

Legooo · 08/11/2020 10:46

Ds (4 yo) told to self isolate last week for two weeks as two classmates had positive tests. His reception class and two others are off due to positive tests.

In the newsletter on Friday it said two year one classes are now also off, they think because they were sharing toilets with reception (small school, reception to year 3, only two toilet blocks for the whole place so they had to share).