To do a normal Christmas this year

[Coviddooneplease]

Now before I’m flamed I don’t mean completely normal eg a New Year’s Eve party like we usually have, and huge gatherings of both mine and dh’s family all together. I won’t go stupid but I have no intention of snubbing family this Christmas Anette’s denying my dc to see our nearest ant dearest. I know it’s been a shit year for everyone, and I expect the majority of you have stuck to the rules religiously (like me) but I refuse to have a shit Christmas to top of a shit 2020.

I plan to have my parents round on their own then my sister and niece on their own then see dh’s parents and brother at their house. That’s it. Usually we have 30+ people including both sets of grandparents (mine) who I won’t be spending time with as they are to vulnerable medically speaking. AIBU here or are other people going to do what they went whilst exercising caution and of course common sense?

[quote Bloodybridget]@notanothertakeaway I'll have over three weeks before I go to hospital for chemo again, and I'm using the NHS app, so if any of us develops symptoms during that time it will be picked up.[/quote]
@Bloodybridget yes, if you have symptoms, you'll know there's an issue. But what if, like many people, you are asymptomatic? You could take covid into hospital without realising

The amount the cases are going up is super scary.

Can’t see many people on this thrad say think about the NHS. They won’t have much choice what to do on Xmas Day will they. They’ll be sorting out this mess and holding people’s hands who die because their family aren’t allowed in hospital.

Honestly, there should be a socially distanced uprising about the mess which is Track and Trace and the general approach to easing lockdown.

So YABU you are contemplating seeing several steps of people indoors. Just stay at home and be thankful you’re not on the frontline.

Please just see your family at Christmas! Don't listen to anyone who tries to guilt trip you with their utter nonsense. With a 99.8% survival rate, you are hardly all going to drop down dead from having a family Christmas!

I literally know not one person who doesn't just see their friends and family at each other's homes now. Who is anyone to tell you who you can and cannot see on Xmas! To me and many others I know, the risk is just not enough to stop living our lives

It goes without saying that any of you would stay home if you were ill though. Although I am sure people have enough common sense for that. You wouldn't exactly go to a friend or elderly relatives home with norovirus would you. It's no different in circumstance

@Coviddooneplease

Not necessary I suppose but to be honest I was interested to see what other people planned on doing over Christmas and if people were happy to use their own judgment instead of allowing a complete buffoon like BJ dictate what they can and can’t do.

I don't really understand why you're posting. Either you are comfortable in your decisions in which case you wouldn't be posting so I think you're looking for validation because somewhere deep down, you know you're doing the wrong thing.

Just because you've 'followed the rules' up to now doesn't give you a pass to do what ever you like when it suits you best. It doesn't work like that. You don't 'deserve' your Christmas nor have you 'earned' it by being 'good'. Everyone is suffering and everyone is exactly the same and we all have to make a lot of sacrifices, no one is maker a greater one than the next person.

You will do what you like. People like you always will. But just keep quiet about it. Don't rub people's noses in it and create more bad feeling. There's enough of that going on without posts like this.

@Sertchgi123

How sorry will you be when an older relative gets Covid, through your selfishness?

We are having a big family get together on Christmas day where we shall raise a glass to our Mum who died at the end of March (covid) and my dad who will be dead in the next few weeks (cancer). I don't think our selfishness would matter a jot to our elderly relatives because they won't be here.

FFS the quicker we abide by the rules the quicker we can see our families!

@Plannersareus How exactly?

With the absence of spending December in crowded places with the usual busy Christmas parties, and packed school halls watching nativities, there's probably less chance of inadvertently festively killing elderly relatives this year than there normally is with the usual seasonal delights of flu and norovirus.

We don't normally hold informal inquests into who fatally infected Gramps, but the death rates naturally are highest shortly after Christmas/ New Year.

I literally know not one person who doesn't just see their friends and family at each other's homes now.

I know loads who haven't, and who definitely aren't now that we are in tier three. Clearly, a lot haven't as my area now has over 500 per 100k positive cases.

We're tier one and if it stays that way we'll see my parents one day and in laws the other, can't see DB SIL and DNs as both households add up to seven.

If tier 2 by then, honestly we'll do the same, my mum and DHs mum have DS one day per week each (long standing childcare arrangements permitted to continue under all tiers), they live with DF and FIL so whatever other household has their household has anyway, DS isn't two yet so they can't socially distance and care for him while we are at work. I've been a stickler for the rules and haven't seen my brother and nephews for a good while now - they live in a tier 2 area and DS would love to see his cousins, but it makes no sense that Christmas week out parents won't see DS because we're not at work whereas they see him every other week within the guidelines

quote @Bloodybridget yes, if you have symptoms, you'll know there's an issue. But what if, like many people, you are asymptomatic? You could take covid into hospital without realising

@notanothertakeaway you are right, of course. I was just reading info on NHS Scotland about extremely clinically vulnerable people, that will definitely be me. I'll talk to the chemo nurses about it . . I wonder if they'll be doing Covid tests along with bloods, before each treatment.