To think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator?

[LittleLapwing]

Half the shops covered in plastic. Can’t buy clothes, duvets, books, DVDs, tins but not tin openers.
All the Halloween and bonfire night stuff that’s just been stocked is behind a cordon. Presumably now destined for landfill.

Autumn half term after a shitty year and I can’t even do a few seasonal treats for the kids.

AIBU to think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator, and that his ridiculous game of Covid oneupmanship with Nicola and Boris needs to stop!?

There’s a very real puritanical vibe to these pathetic restrictions.

A self-flagellating punishment for the virus.

Innit.

Trying not to totally undermine the guy but he really has never been elected by the Welsh People. He got in through the back door votes from his own party.

I don’t think that’s good enough, personally, in a supposed democracy.

Also, his son was jailed for rape and child sex offences in 2018.

Dunno, wafts of ‘nightmare’ about him

Won't someone think of all the plastic waste involved in "bagging up" the supermarket stuff? Moralising politicians have been known to talk about plastic waste.

I cannot understand legally how curtailing the supermarket sales whilst allowing discount stores who remain open to sell the the exact same items can happen. Especially as this is been decided to maintain a level playing field for closed independent shops and not due to Covid.

This is what happens when you live in a society. Whether you've chosen it or not. Comes with the territory. Only other option is to live off grid and give up the luxuries that being part of society afford you.

@flowerbombVR

This is what happens when you live in a society. Whether you've chosen it or not. Comes with the territory. Only other option is to live off grid and give up the luxuries that being part of society afford you.

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There is no logic to this, anyone saying its to stop the spread of infections only has to look at how stupid this is

You need a kettle and buy some food...

You go to tesco but can only buy food now so you now have to go to wilko to buy kettle....two shops more time around people

Or you could of just gone to tesco and got it all at once and just been in one shop, minimising number of people you come in contact with

How ridiculous 🙄

As for those on here telling other people its only 17 days you don't need to buy anything...who are you to tell someone when or how they should spend their money? And its already obvious they day its 17days and always end up extending!

Some weird world where suddenly ordinary Joe public turning on each other saying dont spend your money, dont buy this and politicians acting like dictators whilst they do as they please because somehow they are immune

@Boulshired

I cannot understand legally how curtailing the supermarket sales whilst allowing discount stores who remain open to sell the the exact same items can happen. Especially as this is been decided to maintain a level playing field for closed independent shops and not due to Covid.

This is my view too. Xenia where are you? Tell me what law allows this!

@CarlottaValdez

Happy days for fucking amazon. What an absolute prick.

Shame he doesnt have to report his stock holdings

I live in Wales and NO ONE I know supports the current restrictions.

@TrustTheGeneGenie

It's entirely relevant to the argument since it is the reason MD has given

If his reason was that he had a personal vendetta against Morrisons would that be ok just because that was his reason?

It would be fantastic if he did that as then all the legal mechanisms to get rid of him for corruption would kick in and we could be free of the git

@Armi

I wish people would get a grip, although I appreciate that many do love the opportunity for flinging themselves about being melodramatic.

It’s 17 days without buying shit you mostly don’t need. And if you do need it, you can order it online. Or just go without ( you can boil water in a pan, if your kettle breaks, you know). All this emotive stuff about children’s clothes....just layer them up, squeeze them into last year’s coat. You’re not going anywhere for 17 days, anyway!

Christ.

"You’re not going anywhere for 17 days, anyway!" Well except work...

@hamstersarse

Trying not to totally undermine the guy but he really has never been elected by the Welsh People. He got in through the back door votes from his own party.

I don’t think that’s good enough, personally, in a supposed democracy.

Also, his son was jailed for rape and child sex offences in 2018.

Dunno, wafts of ‘nightmare’ about him

What his son did has fuck all to do with anything. Using it to score points is vile.

He has gone completely crazy.
This is one of the most ridiculous and mental things I have seen since this pandemic started.

Yanbu he is a disgrace and is wreaking destruction across Wales. Why block supermarkets from selling kettles, duvets, children's clothes? Power mad dictator.

Also people will just shop on Amazon, whereas Tesco employ a lot of staff and pay UK taxes but are having their trade blocked.

He needs to be dismissed from his role.

When I first heard about this I thought someone was taking the piss. How in the UK does someone take away our freedom to choose how we live so easily? I am a fully functioning adult with the capacity to take the facts about risks and decide what is an essential item to me and my loved ones and whether it's worth popping down a particular aisle.
This removal of our rights to freedom is wrong on every level.

As an aside, I live in a town in Gloucestershire (close to the border) where several secondary school aged children have been followed, approached and in one case assaulted by similar looking people over the last few days. These people haven't been caught but the police have time to patrol the border in case the Welsh dare to try to enter England to buy a kettle.
What the actual fuck???

@Mooseflake

am RAGING for the good people of Wales. Elected officials should not act like this. Whether you want to buy a kettle as yours has died or whether you just want to take a look at the homeware section when you’re buying your mince, this should be no concern of government.

Elected officials should not make policy to protect public health?

During the first lockdown, I made a trip to our local Tesco superstore one Friday afternoon shock horror, just to browse. It made me ridiculously happy and improved my mental health no end.

This is exactly why that policy is in place. I'm sorry, I know it's hard. I went to Cornwall on holiday this summer and it made me ridiculously happy and improved my mental health no end. For two weeks, the government are stopping me from doing that. To slow the spread of the virus.

Dripford WAS NOT elected as FM.

He has no personal electoral mandate at all. He's FM by default.

Damn the lack of an edit

What I meant was he has no electoral mandate to be FM. We in Wales had this Corbinist thrust upon us by his party who have the tiniest margin possible in the Senedd. I expect they'll lose a lot of seats to Plaid in the May election

@TroysMammy

Who are these people who throw out gloves after winter then buy another pair when the weather gets colder? The people with just one set of bedding? No cheap back up tin opener just in case their normal one breaks at any other time of the year? A cheap/travel hairdryer in case their normal one packs in when drying their hair?

They’re poor people, that’s who. They’re people who only ever have one set of anything, who don’t have spares, who love hand to mouth, who have no room to store things. Who live in sheltered accommodation, or houseshares, or bedsits with a shared kitchen and bathroom. They’re people whose children have lost one of their one pair of gloves, or put a hole through shoes that were too small, who can’t afford to order a new pair from Clark’s or next online and would normally buy the cheapest pair they could find from the cheapest supermarket they can get to.

Check your privilege.

@MonClareDevole

Complaints of the lockdown reek of entitlement to me. If you’re this bothered by not being able to buy non-essentials for 17 days, then you’ve clearly never experienced any real hardship.

Not really, given more affluent people can get things delivered.

In my supermarket this morning you could buy plastic plants, greetings cards, magazines, Krispy creme doughnuts, some lightbulbs and pumpkins. You could not buy stationary or books. There is no logic whatsoever.

Inwas so invested in this thread, that when I went to Sainsbury's earlier I was momentarily surprised to see the toy, book and cd aisle open. Then I remembered that I live in England.

What happens if your child vomits on their duvet and you aren't allowed to buy a replacement in Tesco because they are 'non-essential'?

Or your kettle breaks and you need a new one to make hot drinks as its winter? FFS this man is a disgrace.

And I am really not ‘entitled’ I am an exhausted teaching assistant craving a tiny piece of normality.

I don't live in Wales, but there's a pic doing the rounds on social media of a plastic draped children's clothing aisle with a display of very-definitely-for-sale vodka bottles beside it. Nice one Drakeford.