To think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator?

[LittleLapwing]

Half the shops covered in plastic. Can’t buy clothes, duvets, books, DVDs, tins but not tin openers.
All the Halloween and bonfire night stuff that’s just been stocked is behind a cordon. Presumably now destined for landfill.

Autumn half term after a shitty year and I can’t even do a few seasonal treats for the kids.

AIBU to think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator, and that his ridiculous game of Covid oneupmanship with Nicola and Boris needs to stop!?

I literally stood five minutes today while two women discussed the merits of different flavours of canned soup. Five bloody minutes. Eventually I said can you let me in please, grabbed a can of Heinz tomato soup and said thank you breezily

You stood there for five minutes? Really?

More fool you.

@TrustTheGeneGenie Thank you for correcting me. Imagine what would have happened if you hadn’t? It doesn’t bear thinking about.

Just come back from Tesco to get 6-9 mth long sleeved baby vests and guess what? They're considered non essential and have been cordoned off. I was able to buy a bottle of rhubarb and ginger gin though so thats ok

It's entirely relevant to the argument since it is the reason MD has given

If his reason was that he had a personal vendetta against Morrisons would that be ok just because that was his reason?

[quote Armi]@TrustTheGeneGenie Thank you for correcting me. Imagine what would have happened if you hadn’t? It doesn’t bear thinking about.[/quote]
You're just making yourself look stupid and massively out of touch.

@Tiredmum100 Cross Hands here so not far :)

I see one man in North Wales has lost it over this nonsense www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/supermarket-coronavirus-covid-fire-break-19159487

[quote Evenstar]I see one man in North Wales has lost it over this nonsense www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/supermarket-coronavirus-covid-fire-break-19159487[/quote]
Good on him. Challenges the narrative of "all of Wales supports this and wants to be locked down" that some on here are trying to peddle.

I think it might be time for some posters on here to admit that their objections really stem from their opposition to any form of devolution and this is why Mark Drayford and Nicola Sturgeon will never do the right thing.

The 'lack of competition' excuse is pants, because everyone will buy what they need off Amazon, not wait for the local shop to re-open.

I wish the supermarkets would just give away the Halloween stuff for free, that would be a lovely way to rebel.

@noideaatallreally

I think it might be time for some posters on here to admit that their objections really stem from their opposition to any form of devolution and this is why Mark Drayford and Nicola Sturgeon will never do the right thing.

Personally I couldn't give a shit about that. I think they're both massive raging arseholes but not because they want independence. Makes no difference to me.

Complaints of the lockdown reek of entitlement to me. If you’re this bothered by not being able to buy non-essentials for 17 days, then you’ve clearly never experienced any real hardship.

@noideaatallreally

I think it might be time for some posters on here to admit that their objections really stem from their opposition to any form of devolution and this is why Mark Drayford and Nicola Sturgeon will never do the right thing.

I support devolution and usually agree with much of what the Welsh and Scottish governments do. I fucking hate the Tories. I just think this has gone way too far and is a massive abuse of power. If Bojo starts with this shit then I'll be the first to criticise him too.

For what it's worth - I don't believe he is a dictator, I don't believe that he is deliberately adding things to the list of non essential things because they are mostly bought by women(?!)I don't think he is in league with Amazon. I don't believe that most people will have tin openers or kettles that just won't make it for the next 16 days without falling apart.

I don't know if a circuit breaker will work, but I don't have access to the scientific advisors. I think for the sake of 16 more days it is worth giving it a try.

@MonClareDevole

Complaints of the lockdown reek of entitlement to me. If you’re this bothered by not being able to buy non-essentials for 17 days, then you’ve clearly never experienced any real hardship.

Utter utter bollocks.

@Mooseflake you can keep explaining it as much as you want but it doesn't mean your arguments are correct.

@noideaatallreally I disagree. I think the way authorities every where have behaved has shown what can happen when you give some people a little bit of power. One example is the English Chief Constable who ordered his officers to patrol Easter egg aisles.

@FatimaMunchy

Apparently the Gloucestershire Police are going to Police the border to make sure no one nips into England to buy forbidden items. No actual crime in Gloucestershire then?

Surely that's the remit of Welsh police forces? Either way, they have their work cut out. There are many more ways of slipping over the border than driving down the A449.

I can't believe I just used the phrase 'slipping over the border'.

Hating restrictions on our freedoms is now called ‘entitlement’?

Personally I think that’s total horse shit.

[quote MissEliza]@noideaatallreally I disagree. I think the way authorities every where have behaved has shown what can happen when you give some people a little bit of power. One example is the English Chief Constable who ordered his officers to patrol Easter egg aisles.[/quote]
That was probably our CC, he was one of them that was going to check trolleys for non essentials, he made himself look a twat on the TV saying about checking trolleys then awkwardly retracted what he had said, people don't forget though.

@noideaatallreally

I think it might be time for some posters on here to admit that their objections really stem from their opposition to any form of devolution and this is why Mark Drayford and Nicola Sturgeon will never do the right thing.

Yep, that's definitely why, for instance, Neil McEvoy is against it.

Incidentally, I voted for more powers to the Senedd last time they asked (admittedly a while ago). I'm now thinking maybe that was a mistake, and tending towards the idea that independence would work, or abolishing the Senedd, but devolution short of independence just means power without responsibility.

It’s madness. No point in frothing as it won’t change anything. The man’s a dinosaur and is unelected by the people as leader. He’s the very worst of old Welsh Labour and is presiding over yet another decline in their standing. It’s a shame because up until recently I thought it was a (maybe unnecessarily) tight ship which was taking some of the people here with it and achieving results. Boris must be lapping this up - the focus on blundering government has moved from Westminster.

The OP did - or more specifically the Welsh First Minister, calling him a "Power mad dictator" and accusing him of one-upmanship.

Er, excuse me but I did not blame ‘the Welsh.’
Mark Drakeford is not ‘the Welsh.’

Nice try though.

I stand by the ‘power-mad dictator’ and claims of one-upmanship though. Diolch yn fawr iawn for the chance to reiterate them, can’t be said enough in my view 👍

There’s a very real puritanical vibe to these pathetic restrictions.

A self-flagellating punishment for the virus.

We must not have any fun at all because virus has come to remind us what sinful creatures we all are

Oh, and fwiw, of course this dude is acting like some sort of dictator, made all the worse by the fact he literally was never elected

Everyone I know here is pleased that the lockdown has happened because we were worried about the increasing cases.

Really? That’s strange because everyone here, on Facebook and on the WelshGov social media pages is raging. Go iawn.

I know literally no one who is ‘pleased’ about the lockdown.