To think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator?

[LittleLapwing]

Half the shops covered in plastic. Can’t buy clothes, duvets, books, DVDs, tins but not tin openers.
All the Halloween and bonfire night stuff that’s just been stocked is behind a cordon. Presumably now destined for landfill.

Autumn half term after a shitty year and I can’t even do a few seasonal treats for the kids.

AIBU to think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator, and that his ridiculous game of Covid oneupmanship with Nicola and Boris needs to stop!?

i have three tin openers,

@TroysMammy we weren’t told we couldn’t pop a pumpkin in our click & collect. I try to just buy food weekly. Surely extra visits for a pumpkin are exactly what I should be avoiding.

@Funkypolar

Drakeford must have shares in Amazon. What an unhinged little man. Perhaps he should have stayed as a social worker.

Dear Jesus, the thought of him as one's own social worker. All that arbitrary power and fixed ideas on "what's best". 😶

Also the irony re: everyone will just buy online is that in some supermarkets you could buy clothes or homeware online from George and then pick it up at your local asda...meanwhile the exact same items are inches away from the till wrapped in plastic....the only loser there is the environment

What will happen after Monday 9 November?

Following the end of the firebreak, a new set of national rules will be introduced, covering how people can meet and how the public sector and businesses operate.

i might put my spare tin openers on ebay!

Noideawhattodo the fire break was announced last Monday, rumours started before then. The fire break started Friday evening so people were warned and if they didn’t buy their Haribo, spiders and fake blood in those 5 days they only have themselves to blame.

Not everyone has the money to buy these things on a whim. Many have to wait until pay day. And weren't the restrictions on supermarkets selling so called non essentials just announced? If I was told that small shops were closing I'd think that I'd get them from supermarkets and Home Bargains. It wouldn't occur to me that they'd close off the aisles.

@JesusInTheCabbageVan why are you assuming wilko, homebargains etc. will be able to stock these items if supermarkets can't?

Because they just said so.

pick and mix was surely closed down back in March?
not exactly hygienic is it?

@RaspberryCoulis Very true. I might go get some wood and dry it in front of my fire. Shouldn’t really be wasting card that I could use in a variety of ways. Maybe in a pie?

Who are these people who throw out gloves after winter then buy another pair when the weather gets colder? The people with just one set of bedding? No cheap back up tin opener just in case their normal one breaks at any other time of the year?
A cheap/travel hairdryer in case their normal one packs in when drying their hair?

What sort of bubble do you live in?

When you move in to your first home, do you really think "I'll buy two tin openers, spare duvet, two kettles and an extra hairdryer, just in case?" Spares and extras are something that build up over time if you have the funds to buy spares, or when you buy a new one but keep the old one just in case. Plenty of people don't have the luxury of doing this because they don't have the spare cash. And as for gloves, is there a parent on the planet who has not got to winter and discovered there's only one glove? Or the one pair have been left at school?

@Burnout101 so instead of adding a pumpkin to my click & collect I should have guessed they’d be deemed non essential and had a trip to the supermarket? A trip just for a pumpkin? When we’re meant to be avoiding unnecessary trips at all times not just these 17 days?

@RoxytheRexy

I’m in Cardiff but I don’t know of any. Could you link to some please? Ones that deliver 2 cards, cheap drawing paper and some bits for tea tomorrow? That deliver this afternoon before I go to work please

I can't phone them up to check what their delivery availability is like, especially as I have no idea what area I'm asking for - are you nearer Radyr or St Mellons? Ely or Lisvane? What type of cards do you need? What bits for tea? Any allergies? etc etc. You're a functioning adult after all with the internet.

I can't believe all the people defending these stupid rules. It's like they thinking making life as hard for yourself as possible makes you a better person.

Sorry, above post was for @thevassal.

@AllPlayedOut

Noideawhattodo the fire break was announced last Monday, rumours started before then. The fire break started Friday evening so people were warned and if they didn’t buy their Haribo, spiders and fake blood in those 5 days they only have themselves to blame.

Not everyone has the money to buy these things on a whim. Many have to wait until pay day. And weren't the restrictions on supermarkets selling so called non essentials just announced? If I was told that small shops were closing I'd think that I'd get them from supermarkets and Home Bargains. It wouldn't occur to me that they'd close off the aisles.

NOT EVERYONE HAS THE MONEY TO BUY FAKE BLOOD AND SPIDERS ON A WHIM

I love MN.

*I'm forever breaking the ringpulls off cans, meaning I have to reach for the tin opener. And because I'm a bit hamfisted I often break tin openers too blush I'd be in the shit if I lived in Wales and hadn't made sure I had a second back up tin opener.

And yes i know you can open a tin with a sharp knife, but I lack the arm strength (my DP can do it but he lives 3 hours away).*

My MIL has some prehistoric ancient tin opener which is essentially like a sharp spike that she whizzes round a tin of beans or tuna. None of us can bear to look, it looks like some medieval torture instrument and I'm always worried she's going to sever an artery when (as she doesnt live in wales) she could easily just get a convential tin opener!

@TroysMammy

Who are these people who throw out gloves after winter then buy another pair when the weather gets colder? The people with just one set of bedding? No cheap back up tin opener just in case their normal one breaks at any other time of the year? A cheap/travel hairdryer in case their normal one packs in when drying their hair?

People without much money - and little cash flow. These are people who will pay more for a 1 or 4 pack of toilet paper because they can't afford - literally don't have the cash or credit - to spend £6 on a 12 pack - the other £3 is needed for food this week.

Your "cheap back up" is their primary item, which breaks/wears out frequently and then needs frequent replacement - so they spend more for lack of cash flow.

HTH.

@Burnout101

I’m in Gabalfa. Just a list of shops would be great

Its bonkers. People will just boycott the shops and use amazon

[quote BooksAreNotEssentialInWales]@Burnout101 so instead of adding a pumpkin to my click & collect I should have guessed they’d be deemed non essential and had a trip to the supermarket? A trip just for a pumpkin? When we’re meant to be avoiding unnecessary trips at all times not just these 17 days?[/quote]
No, just don't have a pumpkin - if you have specific pumpkin related dietary needs the GP is still through firebreak.

@Burnout101

Because many people don't use UC so they wouldn't know. Fairly obvious. I'm glad you can solve problems but ranting on pretending it's not a problem is helping nobody.

Maybe people could find out about things beyond themselves? I don't need a new kettle or bedding in the next fortnight but here I am showing an interest in the issue.

Burnout101 people do care, but on here it's often in the context of moaning about scroungers and fakers and those horrible disabled people with their flash cars.

Thank goodness we didn't have to live through either of the world wars when things were seriously tough for the vast majority of the population. How would we all deal with food rationing for example? So many of us have become entitled - all this complaining whenever anything threatens to prevent us doing what we want.
I live in Wales and broadly support what the Welsh government are doing. Not sure that the current increase in cases all over the country is necessarily shopping related - more likely people refusing to follow rules on meeting in groups in houses and pubs, hugging and kissing , not social distancing.

There is a bigger prize on stake here than whether you need to buy a candle or not.
Such limited thinking on this thread.

Can't even buy a sodding pumpkin on Halloween. How fucking miserable. How many people will not buying a pumpkin save??