Am I the only person who thinks parents should feed their kids outside of school?

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Obviously it goes without saying I don't want any child to go hungry. But. Am I the only person who thinks parents should feed their kids outside of school?

Just that really.. it's free school dinners. Not free lunch all year round.

I don't understand why people think the tax payer should be paying even more? Maybe, if you can't afford to cover the basics (food and clothing) you should think twice before having a child?

Or should we extend free school dinners, to cover all the food a child needs inside and outside of school ?

I'm not tarring everyone with the same brush but I know people who rely on free school dinners. But have sky tv, expensive mobile contracts etc

Again 70% are good parents

Ah, ok. So only 30% of the children should starve then @Madonnawiththebigboobies. Thanks for the clarification.

what about the pensioners who have to choose between heating and eating?

why is this just about children and where is Rashfords dad? Didnt he help with his kids food>

@dottypotter

what about the pensioners who have to choose between heating and eating?

why is this just about children and where is Rashfords dad? Didnt he help with his kids food>

What about them? Have you seen the attitude towards pensioners on MN? They all live lives of bloated luxury in enormous mansions when they’re not away on numerous world wide cruises, paid for by their obscene final salary pensions.

Seriously, anyone attempting to live on a state pension can at least apply for pension credit. Children are helpless.

This is getting lost in translation. I am trying to say that I as a parent am responsible for feeding my child . Is that so bad ???

@Madonnawiththebigboobies and where you can't, or more infrequently won't, then the state has to step in. This is because it is cheaper for the state to feed your child directly than deal with the health consequences, which can be long term.

Adverse credit reports have a massive impact on people who have unstable living situations and may need to move to new rentals

For those in a position, or who progress to a position to pay their own rent that's very true - but I was referriing to those who have so little that they're unlikely to be in that situation

Probably my fault for not making that clear though ...

Ffs I am not saying 30% of children should starve. Sometimes it is the parents responsibility, not the governments .

@dottypotter

what about the pensioners who have to choose between heating and eating?

why is this just about children and where is Rashfords dad? Didnt he help with his kids food>

Because that's what OP chose to post about If you're concerned with feeding pensioners (who also need and deserve 3 decent meals per day and heating) then go and start a thread on it.

@Madonnawiththebigboobies

Ffs I am not saying 30% of children should starve. Sometimes it is the parents responsibility, not the governments .

But if those children’s parents don’t feed them adequately, then what?

So if you fundamentally disagree with FSM, you disagree with it regardless of whether it is a meal at school or a voucher for shopping.

You ignore the fact that many of us have to spend food money on rent because there is no cap on private rent and LHA rates are deliberately insufficient to meet the very lowest available rent.

Yes it is my responsibility, in the old days I guess the churches filled the gap. Now there are food banks, which I couldn't access during lockdown.

You clearly lack humanity and have become embittered by your work experience.

Fighting a never ending battle here. Every one is an expert.

@Madonnawiththebigboobies

Ffs I am not saying 30% of children should starve. Sometimes it is the parents responsibility, not the governments .

And when parents can’t or won’t meet that responsibility? Then what?

@Madonnawiththebigboobies

Fighting a never ending battle here. Every one is an expert.

No expert at all, just asking you a question. If a parent can’t or won’t meet their responsibility to feed their child, what should happen next?

@Madonnawiththebigboobies

Fighting a never ending battle here. Every one is an expert.

Try and understand what all those “experts” are saying and you might get some insight into why you’re “fighting a losing battle”, one you completely deserve to lose, incidentally.

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Adverse credit reports have a massive impact on people who have unstable living situations and may need to move to new rentals

For those in a position, or who progress to a position to pay their own rent that's very true - but I was referriing to those who have so little that they're unlikely to be in that situation

Probably my fault for not making that clear though ...

Even if you rely on housing benefit or universal credit getting a new rental with a shit credit rating is nigh on impossible.

Those relying on that are more likely to be in unstable rents relying on private landlords given the lack of social housing.

@Madonnawiththebigboobies

Ffs I am not saying 30% of children should starve. Sometimes it is the parents responsibility, not the governments .

So what happens to the children that don’t get fed?

What should have happened to me when my school realised I wasn’t been fed?

Saying that it’s the responsibility of the parents doesn’t change the fact that children are hungry and need fed

@margotmoon

It's not at all irrelevant - if you provide food for hungry children then you need to ensure that the children get the food. Otherwise what's the point?
And of course the children aren't at fault, I never said they were

The vast majority of children whose parents get vouchers will get fed thanks to those vouchers

Using the actions of a small minority to dictate the overall policy is never good

It’s funny as well how that never happens to the wealthy. We don’t take extra tax of rich companies in case others don’t pay their fair share, but we are in a situation where welfare, disability benefits in particular, and now holiday meals have to be tailored because a minority abuse it.

So let's flip this? I am a working single parent with 3 children. I have sky tv . Broadband and a mobile phone contract. Subsidised school lunches in term time ? Should I not be responsible for feeding my children In the holidays??

@Madonnawiththebigboobies

So let's flip this? I am a working single parent with 3 children. I have sky tv . Broadband and a mobile phone contract. Subsidised school lunches in term time ? Should I not be responsible for feeding my children In the holidays??

Yes because you can afford to because you’re not on benefits, are you? Are people really this obtuse?

@Madonnawiththebigboobies

So let's flip this? I am a working single parent with 3 children. I have sky tv . Broadband and a mobile phone contract. Subsidised school lunches in term time ? Should I not be responsible for feeding my children In the holidays??

What does you flipping a hypothetical situation do to help the children whose parents can’t afford to feed them in the holidays?

Should there be sanctions for parents who deliberately neglect their children? Obviously.

However those children, plus the ones whose parents can’t afford to feed them, still need fed

Don't flip it. Just answer the question:

So what happens to the children that don’t get fed?

How about this one @Madonnawiththebigboobies...

I’m a single parent on UC. I’ve sold my phone and abandoned my contracts because that’s what I’m meant to do apparently. I can’t afford bus fare to the job centre and the library is closed.

How do I tell my Uc advisor that I can’t make the latest appointment as I’m self-isolating? Or how to I update my work hours/salary now my zero hours contract has meant I’ve had no hours?

How do I even apply for Uc in the first place?

@Madonnawiththebigboobies why do you keep avoiding the question?

Regardless of what YOU would do about your broadband and mobile phone, the fact is that some children won’t be fed by their parents.

So what do you think should happen to those children?