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To want everyone to know the names of the MPs who voted against feeding hungry children?

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WrongKindOfFace · 22/10/2020 07:40

Remember Marcus Rashford and his campaign to extend free school meals? Yesterday all but a handful of Tory MPs voted against extending free school meals over the school holidays until Easter 2021. You can see if your MP is amongst them here: votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/896#noes

Whatever your thoughts on what parents should be doing some children are going to go hungry. Why punish the children because of the sins of the parent? And remember most people on benefits are in work.

Plus there is a bloody pandemic. We’re in unprecedented times. People who were just about managing are now on the bones of their arse.

We have billions to spaff up the wall on a useless test and trace system, or useless Ppe but we can’t feed a few hungry kids. And le’t not forget that the MPs voting against this get subsidised meals and can claim for their food on expenses.

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W3dontdoduvets · 22/10/2020 13:53

[quote Ohtherewearethen]@GetOffYourHighHorse

Carry on with your 'yeah but no but free school meals scum! innit' chat

I don't speak like that. I don't know what kind of point you're trying to make by suggesting I do. That I am ineloquent? Unintelligent? That I don't have a valid point to make? Interesting when all you can come up with is that MPs should be able to vote for abhorrent policies on private so that they are not accountable for their actions and that 'someone' used the word 'scum' about a Tory MP they knew, based on the beliefs they hold. No opinions on the disgusting comments your wonderful PM made about huge numbers of our population that he doesn't actually know, or...?[/quote]
That’s just it, if we disagree with the likes of this poster we are all just Vicky Pollards without brains. They have tried to derail this thread from the beginning.

Idontbelieveit12 · 22/10/2020 13:54

My MP is Tory, didn’t vote, just as bad as voting no IMO

Chaotic45 · 22/10/2020 13:57

Boils my piss that the taxes I pay can't be spent on feeding hungry children, but can be spent on so many other ridiculous things.

W3dontdoduvets · 22/10/2020 14:02

@Chaotic45

Boils my piss that the taxes I pay can't be spent on feeding hungry children, but can be spent on so many other ridiculous things.
Failed Garden bridge, anyone? One of Johnson’s spiffing wheezes. 53m spent on that, 43m of public money. Imagine where that could have gone.
cantdothisnow1 · 22/10/2020 14:07

'Someone'. The deputy leader of the opposition you mean and also half the posters on this thread. MPs family's are being abused. Stop minimising. It is not ok.

But minimising child poverty and hunger is, well, absolutely fine!

Unbelievable!

No one on here is condoning MPs families being hounded, it is irrelevant to whether it is right to vote against ensuring our children are fed.

We are the 5th richest nation in the world yet we let our children go hungry.

And you can't see the wrong in that?

CoronaBollox · 22/10/2020 14:16

Carry on with your 'yeah but no but free school meals scum! innit' chat

Ooo there it is. Theres what the poster really thinks about people who support free meals for children. Innit.

Nonamesavail · 22/10/2020 14:16

Mines on there.

There's coffrey

But she's dick.

Ori3 · 22/10/2020 14:22

@GetOffYourHighHorse

Carry on with your 'yeah but no but free school meals scum! innit' chat

And there's the problem. Right there, in one disdainful, arrogant sentence.

People who don't vote Tory clearly live Vicky Pollard-style, with the lack of intelligence to match. Unfortunately this is a microcosm of what the Tories in general think of everyone else. A teeming horde of poorly-dressed, inadequate and dysfunctional Vicky Pollards who they preside over. Who cares about them? Not I, said the King of the Castle! I breed quality!

I don't agree with any MP being threatened, in any way, but neither do I agree with ill-judged insults like these.

AllesAusLiebe · 22/10/2020 14:26

@Goldenbear yes, completely. I think that the widening wealth gap is a big problem and needs addressing. I'm no fan of this government and its policies.

I just don't think that poverty issues are that simple to resolve as to give school kids free meals in the holidays. It doesn't address the real issues and I honestly don't see why it is needed.

I take the argument that the government has wasted a lot of money, but the solution to that cannot be to spend more on poorly conceived initiatives. Just because a Man Utd footballer thinks its a problem, it doesn't mean that his solution is the only one worth pursuing.

AWaspOnAWindowReturns · 22/10/2020 14:27

Yep. Mine too.
His response was along the lines of "people should get a job to feed their kids instead of expecting meals to be subsidised by the taxpayer".
Pot, kettle 🤔

TheoneandObi · 22/10/2020 14:29

Well my MP was, predictably, one of them. Derek Thomas purports to have solid christian values too. He makes my skin crawl. Didn't turn up for a single hustings during the election campaign, and Central Office draft all his constituency replies.
I hold him in utter contempt.

Rentacar · 22/10/2020 14:32

It's a disgrace for any MP to have voted no while they themselves enjoy various privileges.

DontBeShelfish · 22/10/2020 14:33

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Ironfloor269 · 22/10/2020 14:35

This will go down in history as the shittiest thing this Tory government did. Utterly vile bunch of toffs!

toomanypillows · 22/10/2020 14:36

@cornettoninja apologies for late reply to your question from this morning.

Turnout in Mansfield was 60% in 2015 and then around 64% for both 2017 and 2019. The brexit turnout was 76% (leave won 71%)

So not that low. Disenchanted with Labour (was a Labour stronghold for 40 odd years prior)

He's awful. He's also still a county Councillor for another District but doesn't do anything for that job.

He is a massive Johnson Boot Licker - desperate for a cabinet position. He's on Twitter right not defending the vote and telling us all how much the government are already doing. He makes me absolutely sick.

DontBeShelfish · 22/10/2020 14:40

Wow, even Farage thinks it's bad.

To want everyone to know the names of the MPs who voted against feeding hungry children?
MillieVanilla · 22/10/2020 14:42

@DontBeShelfish

Wow, even Farage thinks it's bad.
Christ, a new low even by the Tory standard when even Farage thinks you've cocked up
Cornettoninja · 22/10/2020 14:44

Thanks @toomanypillows, bang goes that theory of a significant silent but disgusted section...

There’s a lot to be alarmed about lately but the growing blinkered intolerance of the last ten/twenty years still concerns me the most. The collective good is seen as a dangerous infringement unless it’s marginalising a section of society and someone gets to feel superior.

Facelikearustytractor · 22/10/2020 14:49

Utter disgrace that MP's vote in this way and so glad a few Tory MP's made a stand (even if that did mean resignation).

What is the point in electing a local MP to vote in your areas best interest if they just get told how to vote. Shitty, shitty, shite system.

To those who go into the predictable rant about feckless parents choosing flat screen TV's and iphones over feeding their kids, I ask how it is biologically possible for a child to consciously choose the family and poverty they are born into, and what you expect that child to physically do about it. Solution please.

Facelikearustytractor · 22/10/2020 14:50

If Farage is saying it is shit then I await u-turn #156

toomanypillows · 22/10/2020 14:52

@cornettoninja I think he thinks he's untouchable though. And actually the people he's alienating are that electorate - so fingers crossed they retain the memory of this

IwishIwasyoda · 22/10/2020 14:55

Yet another mums net thread that has depressed me. No child should be going hungry in this day and age and it's a disgrace that so many MPs voted no ...

Splodgetastic · 22/10/2020 15:00

I always think that it is the companies who pay wages that are not enough to survive on should not be given the effective state aid by the state topping up benefits. But obviously in a pandemic things are different.

MrsKingfisher · 22/10/2020 15:00

My local MP voted against it, declined to speak on local radio surprise surprise. We can find 100 million for the HS2 but we can't take care of people who need help.

Our entire welfare system needs looking at, food bank usage has gone up 81% since the pandemic. People need help and we as a country should do what we can.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 22/10/2020 15:04

'Theres what the poster really thinks about people who support free meals for children'

I've said i support free school meals and would agree it needs to be extended into school holidays for those in tier 2 and tier 3?

What I don't support is this minimising of 'scum' comments seen here on this very thread. Seems it's just fine to say 'scum' but not to say 'yeah but no but'? Make your minds up. Unpleasant childish slurs are either ok or they aren't!