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AIBU to be shocked that this isn't common knowledge?

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DameFanny · 19/10/2020 19:47

If you go to the pub, or a restaurant, you're not supposed to mix households, or be outside your bubble.

I thought this was all pretty clear - you distance from anyone not in your bubble. 2 metres, or 1 metre with screens, masks or something similar.

And I haven't bothered with the pub or whatever because what's the fun in waving at people from behind a screen. But that's not what people are doing is it? They're sharing tables with friends and getting Covid. Even though it's illegal, and the pub/restaurant can be closed down for it.

I thought the people going out were mostly just eating in a different set of walls with their household - or the posturing mask debaters who tell us it's just a sniffle - but I was honestly shocked on another thread that this isn't common knowledge. How many people are breaking the law?

www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/restaurants-offering-takeaway-or-delivery

AIBU to be shocked that this isn't common knowledge?
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Abraid2 · 20/10/2020 11:09

If you go to the pub, or a restaurant, you're not supposed to mix households, or be outside your bubble.

The OP’s paragraph was a little misleading.

howaboutchocolate · 20/10/2020 11:11

I'm not scared of getting COVID, neither are most people i know. Life has to go on

Christ.
I'm worried. But not about me getting covid. I'm worried about spreading it to people who might die prematurely from it. I'm worried about lots of people in my area getting it bad enough to be taking up all the hospital beds at once. And then something happening to me that requires a hospital bed and there not being one available. If the hospitals reach capacity again, people are going to be dying from preventable things other than covid.

howaboutchocolate · 20/10/2020 11:14

My sister tells me the pubs and restaurants have one way systems and half their tables are blocked off. Isn’t that enough?

Not really. If the people sitting around the table are from different households and not distancing/wearing a mask then they can spread it between each other. Then they go and have a drink with some other people, who go and have a meal with some other people, etc etc.

Satlie2019 · 20/10/2020 11:14

I am not sure why someone is being attacked for just pointing out what the guidance is. It is not being holier than thou, we all just need to socially distance! It is not about personal opinion, it is about following the guidance to protect everyone. I live in a tier 1 area, I can still see friends in their homes, I can still see my elderly grandparents to check they are OK, I can still care for my father who is vulnerable, I just need to socially distance. I don't want where I live to move to tier 2 restrictions and I don't want schools to be shut due to positive cases. I want this to be over and us all to be able to go back to some resemblance of normality, but until it is over we need it socially distance.

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DameFanny · 20/10/2020 11:15

But it's not a thread about how people think differently than me, it's a thread about how a lot of people don't seem to have understood the regulations.

Yes I'm saddened that people are putting undue faith in a particularly corrupt Cabinet, I'm saddened that some people have been thinking they're doing the right thing when they haven't.

What of that is being saddened about people thinking differently than me?

I'm pissed off at the selfishness of the 'I don't mind getting Covid so I'll do what I want' brigade - yes, those people are allowed to think differently, and yes, I'm allowed to judge then as cunts, no?

Your point seems to have missed the point somewhat.

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DameFanny · 20/10/2020 11:16

That was to mindgrapes

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Whatsonmymindgrapes · 20/10/2020 11:44

@DameFanny

Yeah it’s me who missed the point 🙄

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DameFanny · 20/10/2020 11:49

Yep Grin

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LindaEllen · 20/10/2020 11:51

We're in tier 3 and I've seen two separate people on my Facebook putting photos on saying that they're pretending to be sisters with their best mates so they can go out for a meal together. What the actual fuck. Why can't people just do as they're bloody told. Maybe if they did, we wouldn't be in this mess right now.

Tinkerbellflowers · 20/10/2020 17:58

I understood it that you could mix with up to 6 people (in south east) in pubs, but should be socially distanced from them, so sat at least 1 metre apart if not in the same household.

YogiBearcub · 20/10/2020 18:02

@DameFanny

You have to distance from other households - 2 metres, or 1 metre with a mask or a screen. How is that possible on most restaurant tables?
This is old guidance (for England I am talking about) from approx pre summer when the population wide infection rate was assumed to be high. Since then, over the summer you could hit the pub with up to 6 friends from different households. Then more recently was the introduction of 3 tier system with different areas in different tiers. Tier 1 as many have pointed out can still hit the pub in groups of 6. It is just a matter of the likelihood of anyone in that area I dividually having covid. When it becomes likely that someone in a group of 6 may have it, they pop your area in tier 2.
MamaAffrika · 20/10/2020 18:03

Different bubbles can meet together in a restaurant / pub for business / working lunches. It's all bullshit really. People will do what they like. I'm in Tier 2 and meeting friends for dinner tonight in an outdoor booth. It's totally allowed because it's outdoors and 'covid secure'. Ha!

Ponoka7 · 20/10/2020 18:08

People don't seem to have got the message about limiting social contact. A lot are saying if they can't have family over for Christmas, they will have to visit everyone, each day instead. Which is against the guidance. They've specifically said to not visit lots of people within the two weeks of Christmas.

Ddot · 20/10/2020 18:09

It's not one meter with mask it's still two. Two two two. Ok got that off my chest. Two meter social distancing, one meter if you cant give two. Mask, visor, still two. Thankyou for listening. by the way I'm a three meter girl. Didnt like people one meter close before covid 19 so definitely not now

FelicisNox · 20/10/2020 18:14

It's dependant on your tier I believe... we're in tier 1 therefore we CAN mix with people outside our household but the rule of 6 still applies.

AIBU to be shocked that this isn't common knowledge?
JonSnowIsALoser · 20/10/2020 18:17

In Tier 1 you can meet in groups of up to six random people, socially distancing, indoors or outdoors.

In Tier 2 you can only meet in groups of up to six random people, socially distancing, outdoors. Not indoors of any kind, private or public. You can only go to an indoors place with people from your househild or exclusive, unchangeable support bubble.

In Tier 3, you cannot meet in groups of six random people either indoors or outdoors - any social contact is limited to members of one household and support bubble.

To sum up:
Tier 1 - groups of 6 indoors or outdoors
Tier 2 - groups of 6 outdoors only
Tier 3 - no groups of 6 allowed anywhere

Regardless of Tier or full lockdown, you can always meet in any setting with members of your household and exclusive support bubble.

joystir59 · 20/10/2020 18:17

If you are sitting indoors for approx an hour in cafe pub or restaurant your breath is mixing with everyone else's breath in their, regardless of what ever rules you are following. The virus can't read the rules.

joystir59 · 20/10/2020 18:18

There not their sorry

amispeakingenglish · 20/10/2020 18:19

Bubbles are a total nonsense, think about it.

Doje · 20/10/2020 18:25

I think lots are ignoring it because it's unrealistic.

I find it unbelievable that supposedly I've not been able to be closer than 2m to my mum and dad since March! I mean I've been sticking to the rules more than almost everyone I know, but I haven't stuck to this religiously.

Alconleigh · 20/10/2020 18:33

You're right OP in that most people aren't distancing from their party of up to 6 once inside the pub, but that's with the full knowledge of the venue, and presumably the government, as pubs / restaurants are most definitely not getting closed down in droves. I know this as I've been out at least twice a week for the last few weeks, to a variety of places (sometimes up to 3 in a day). Largely with the same gang of 5. And yes I suppose we're risking exposure to each other but we all also work / commute etc and are very much in the 'trying to retain some normality and keep hospitality going' camp. I still, 8 months in, know of only 2 people who have had COVID. I don't deny its existence, I'm not a loon, but I'm certainly not hiding indoors for the next 2 years.

ArthurChristmas2 · 20/10/2020 18:57

It’s been misunderstood from the start. But the law was always clear. You can mix up to a group of six, and those six can be from different households, BUT you cannot mix with a different six from that point on. You pick your group of six and that should remain your group of six, so for example a close family group or a group of six friends. I’ve been staggered that this hasn’t been understood from the start, it’s always been that way. They used words like exclusive group or bubble.

NaturalLight · 20/10/2020 19:26

Well OP I think this thread has shown you are correct and it’s not widely understood! And even when you spell it out and share the guidance, people still tell you you are wrong!

NaturalLight · 20/10/2020 19:28

@FelicisNox - yes you are right you can, but the guidance is that you need to be 2 metres away. Which is what the OP is pointing out.

Out of interest, did you realise that?

Justforphoto · 20/10/2020 19:33

I find it staggering that people are still telling the op she is wrong. Someone even went as far as to say social distancing no longer applies so why is the current slogan Hands, face, space.

Yes meet up in a group of 6 but if they are not in your household you still need to keep your distance