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To find Prince William a bit smug

534 replies

strawberriesandpecans · 08/10/2020 12:42

I'm sure he means well, it's just that he seems to be lecturing everyone on the environment while he travels by helicopter a lot and has a mansion. Also I just find them quite twee and irritating, particularly at the moment when so many people are struggling. AIBU?

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derxa · 08/10/2020 19:50

One day William will be in charge of the Duchy of Cornwall. That's a job in itself.

strawberriesandpecans · 08/10/2020 19:52

What do you want him to do? Smoke fags and hang around
Islington High Street while he leaves his baby mama at home in Kensington Palace with 3 DC's?

Are the options just that or lecturing us all on the environment? Grin

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Ihatefish · 08/10/2020 19:54

Quite frankly anyone who purposely has 3 kids is skating on very thin ice when it comes to environmental issues. I mean why would you add more than a simple replacement at the most in this day and age?

Livingtothefull · 08/10/2020 20:01

I don't have anything against him personally but the whole concept of the Monarchy is an anachronism. However well intentioned he may be, imo he is part of the problem not part of the solution.

And I am not in any kind of mood right now to consider how hard he has it. Spending lockdown in the lap of luxury at his country estate, waited on hand and foot, no money worries, the best of healthcare, is no hardship compared with what others have been dealing with.

I will spare my sympathy for those who have spent lockdown cooped up in eg high rise flats with DC to care for alone, those whose jobs are lost or at risk - to say nothing of those who have lost loved ones. My life has been far from a picnic recently but I am very aware that others have had it far worse and I won't be lecturing anyone at the moment about how to conduct their lives.

So no my heart does not bleed for him.

Totickleamockingbird · 08/10/2020 20:04

He lost that cause the day they had three children. He can’t change mansions etc. But children? That’s a choice that makes him unsuitable for a cause like this.

JustoldLondonme · 08/10/2020 20:10

I like Harry too. I also like Meghan. I think she has enabled Harry to find a peace in himself. I like Kate too. She is strong and supporting her husband.

William ( and other royals) have found themselves in this position through birth. I do not find them smug.

I think Prince Charles has been a visionary re organic farming , the environment and architecture. I think he will make a great King when the time comes.

I think William is following in Charles footsteps re the environment and species. That is a good thing, not smug.

Would you rather William be a Hanoverian drink swilling , food over indulging womanising, recklessly spending prince /king in waiting?

strawberriesandpecans · 08/10/2020 20:13

Would you rather William be a Hanoverian drink swilling , food over indulging womanising, recklessly spending prince /king in waiting?

No. He could make a gesture though, for instance how about he could rent out his Norfolk mansion while he's living at Kensington Palace, and donate the money to environmental causes if he's so passionate.

But no, easier just to go on TV and talk about it all and then carry on as normal. As pp have said, bit tone deaf in the middle of the pandemic

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forgetthehousework · 08/10/2020 20:14

Quite like the idea of monarchy, but as none of them can have the slightest idea what it's like to live in the 'ordinary' world I think they should keep quiet.
What really upsets me is their constant concern for MH issues, trying to share that they know what it's like. Really? I doubt very much if any member of the royal family has had to wait weeks for a telephone assessment which ends with being told that the waiting time for therapy is 8 months and then you'll just be getting six one hour sessions of CBT!

Friendsoftheearth · 08/10/2020 20:17

Would you rather William be a Hanoverian drink swilling , food over indulging womanising, recklessly spending prince /king in waiting?

That would be more authentic than spouting environmentalism with his track record. I am looking for a king that is genuine and honest, and I am struggling with that given his love for hunting, expensive holidays and flying.

stairway · 08/10/2020 20:19

I also don’t get the notion that he has to produce 3 children so there are enough heirs and spares. He said neither he nor his brother wanted the burden of being a king so why inflict that on his own children.

WellGoshDarnIt · 08/10/2020 20:22

Loving all the 'devoted to his family' comments. He wasn't feeling that devoted to them whilst he was bonking his wife's friend, was he?

TheKeatingFive · 08/10/2020 20:23

Loving all the 'devoted to his family' comments. He wasn't feeling that devoted to them whilst he was bonking his wife's friend, was he?

Grin
BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 08/10/2020 20:23

He should go on Rich House Poor House.

Friendsoftheearth · 08/10/2020 20:23

I would have more time for it if it was Prince Charles, as he HAS devoted a great deal of time and money supporting organic food, wildlife and bees. Pretty much his whole life he has been working on that with Duchy etc, he has always supported climate change - and although I am sure he eats meat and goes to shoots, there is a gentleness and honesty about his love of nature that seems to real to me.

Really the same can not be said for William. I like them, I hope they are happy and it works out, but he looks ruthless to me and I can't imagine what it is like being married to such a perfectionist, someone so uptight.

Friendsoftheearth · 08/10/2020 20:25

I am sure someone will come along and tell me is really a fluffy teddy bear with a soft side that people just don't get! Grin

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 08/10/2020 20:31

If I was Kate I'd be extra livid about the adultery as I'm pretty sure their short separating (pre engagement) was arranged speicifcally so he could get a few notches and thus be less inclined to cheat during the marriage.

x2boys · 08/10/2020 20:33

He did come across as a bit smug when him and Kate were trying to empathize with the rest of us about how hard life was trying to home educate three children during lockdown ,I'm sure it's far easier when you have a country estate ,nannies and servants at your beck and call and access to the best on line home education ,not quite the same as having to try and motivate a reluctant 13 yr old and a ten year old with complex learning disabilities in a small two bed house is it .

derxa · 08/10/2020 20:35

Really the same can not be said for William. I like them, I hope they are happy and it works out, but he looks ruthless to me and I can't imagine what it is like being married to such a perfectionist, someone so uptight. I like their strength. They're going to need it.

Sapiophile · 08/10/2020 20:35

When you support the concept of a hereditary monarchy, you are essentially allowing something entirely arbitrary to dictate who is HoS.

I get a bit tired with people claiming to respect and admire the queen but not Charles, William, or other people in line — that’s what you’re supporting, when you support the concept of monarchy, you are abdicating any possibility of choosing a HoS, and agreeing to accept whoever’s next in line.

And that could be someone well-meaning, well-equipped and well-informed, or someone simply going through the motions and tone deaf about their own privilege, someone who shags around, or a Nazi sympathiser who is openly contemptuous about non-white people (who, let’s not forget, was actually, albeit briefly, king.) It’s the luck of the draw.

You don’t get a say.

JustoldLondonme · 08/10/2020 20:35

@strawberriesandpecans
"No. He could make a gesture though, for instance how about he could rent out his Norfolk mansion while he's living at Kensington Palace, and donate the money to environmental causes if he's so passionate.
But no, easier just to go on TV and talk about it all and then carry on as normal. As pp have said, bit tone deaf in the middle of the pandemic"

Yes, he could rent his Norfolk home to all sorts.

Let random people run rampant through his family home , then the Met can spend thousands making it secure again.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

LynetteScavo · 08/10/2020 20:45

Well, I'd be smug as fuck if I were Prince William.

strawberriesandpecans · 08/10/2020 20:46

Let random people run rampant through his family home , then the Met can spend thousands making it secure again.

Not sure what they'd be doing to cost these thousands? In any case, I'm sure the Met's expenditure wouldn't be the main reason he wouldn't do that.

But FWIW not that green/eco to be running a mansion you don't use very often, is it?

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Mittens030869 · 08/10/2020 20:53

I don’t have much of an opinion on William and Kate and their children or on the rest of the Royal Family. But environmental damage is the biggest challenge in our generation and any attempt to raise awareness about it is to be welcomed.

I’d rather hear about William speaking about environmental issues than hear gossip about his private life (which I couldn’t give a toss about).

Livingtothefull · 08/10/2020 20:57

'But FWIW not that green/eco to be running a mansion you don't use very often, is it?'

Agreed. Like all the royals, William has an elephant-sized carbon footprint...and by lecturing the rest of us about environmental consciousness it appears as if we are being expected to pick up the slack. It may not be intended as arrogant but that is how it comes across.

ThunderSkies · 08/10/2020 20:58

3 children

Private planes

Lavish lifestyle

Hunting / shooting for fun

Etc

I don’t think they can and should be preaching to anybody.